Quick Question... Chorus or Reverb?
Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-04 8:06 AM (#395671)
Subject: Quick Question... Chorus or Reverb?



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If you were considering buying one of two cheapie little Acoustic Amps...
And one amp was a CA10 with a variable speed Chorus...
And one amp was a CA15 with Reverb...

Which sounds better, is more useful, whatever?
I am not worried about wattage or speaker size cuz I ain't playing for the masses...

Whatchya think... All y'all on the east coast and Europe who are already awake. :cool:

[chop-chop... Let's be quick, I need an answer... Please]
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dweezil
Posted 2009-10-04 8:13 AM (#395672 - in reply to #395671)
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Reverb
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Chris from Yalova
Posted 2009-10-04 8:40 AM (#395673 - in reply to #395671)
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My humble opinion: go and get yourself a Marshall AS 50 D which has chorus and reverb, two channels you can split them between (one for a mike if you like, one for the guitar) and be much happier than with one of the "cheapies"...

As someone wrote in here concerning O guitars: buying cheap turns out more costly in the long run...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-04 8:48 AM (#395674 - in reply to #395671)
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Can I get a Marshall AS50D for $80?
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Chris from Yalova
Posted 2009-10-04 9:35 AM (#395675 - in reply to #395671)
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:) I guess you can“t get it for this money...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-04 9:56 AM (#395676 - in reply to #395671)
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Aw... I went for the Reverb. (Thanx Dweezil)
I have a Chorus Pedal and a Zoom 505II that I never use either one of...
So if I really need a chorus I can dig-around in the junk drawer.

They are unloading New CA15\'s for less than a hunnert bucks on evilBay...
If anybody has a burning desire.
And New CA10\'s for $60.
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Chris from Yalova
Posted 2009-10-04 10:31 AM (#395677 - in reply to #395671)
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I hope you will be happy with it :)
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David Van
Posted 2009-10-04 11:36 AM (#395678 - in reply to #395671)
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Personally I have a 15 watt Line 6 Spider III that you can grab off Craigs list just about any day for $60 or so... and I love this thing to death! It has almost all the toys you could ever want built in... Reverb, Chorus, Flange, Tape Echo, Sweep Echo, Overdrive... AND for a tiny little amp it REALLY has great sound! I am recommending them to all my students. just my 2 cents... :-)
David
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dobro
Posted 2009-10-04 12:09 PM (#395679 - in reply to #395671)
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Reverb, hands down. You need it to add a little "air" to the sound. Chorus is OK, but it's a dated sound and does not really add THAT much to a fine acoustic tone. At best a touch of chorus will "fatten" your tone, but REVERB... essential!
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Beal
Posted 2009-10-04 12:19 PM (#395680 - in reply to #395671)
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I was gonna say reverb but I see you already made the right choice.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-10-04 12:54 PM (#395681 - in reply to #395671)
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I just got a really cool Roland micro cube portable amp in white tolex for less than a C note...COSM amp modeling, BOSS effects, battery or A/C power, built in tuner tone, recording/headphone output. Effects include Chorus, Flanger, Phaser, tremolo, delays, and reverbs...and it can run for 24hrs on batteries...aux in for a cd player or MP3...just a killer little amp...
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MWoody
Posted 2009-10-04 1:11 PM (#395682 - in reply to #395671)
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I know I'm late but that shouldn't stop anyone. I prefer to have an Amp that is free of effects and then I selct my pedals for the rest.
I seem to be a Boss fan so in order of acquisition and importance:

Tuner
Delay with Tempo switch
Blues Distortion
Compressor
Noise Reducer
Boost
Flanger
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-04 6:34 PM (#395683 - in reply to #395671)
Subject: Re: Quick Question... Chorus or Reverb?



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Thank You all for your answers, especially the people who tell me that I made the right choice.

Mike and David, I've got the MicroCube and the CubeStreet.
And they have all the knobbies I would ever need.
But in previous discussions about MC's people have said that I really need to get a Real Acoustic Amp.
I was doing a price-check to sell my Fender G-DEC (gone! that quick) when I stumbled on to the CA's at reasonable prices. Then the Gear-GAS hit! Anyway, I sold the G-DEC for more than I paid for the CA... one-in/on-out, so I still will have the same amount of stuff. Just different stuff.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-10-04 8:05 PM (#395684 - in reply to #395671)
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You SOLD the G-DEC .. ???
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-04 8:48 PM (#395685 - in reply to #395671)
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Yup! Nice toy, But....
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-08 6:05 PM (#395686 - in reply to #395671)
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So I got my CA15... This thing is scary-loud! Nice!
Okay, I've had (and have) combo amps with a Clean or Acoustic setting. This is totally different.
I just had an epiphany! Y'all have been telling me for years that I need an acoustic amp.
Y'all were Right! (Don't let it go to your head)

Also, unlike my other amps, when playing through this thing the sound seems to come from everywhere!
As opposed to being really 'directional' like my other amps. The music fills the room.
I am standing and walking around and the sound is consistent.
My neighbors are gonna hate me.


[I have guitar stands, I only leaned the guitar here for this one photo]

Okay, now comments and questions... The cord on this thing is attached to the amp, unlike all my other amps that take one of those triangular computer-type cables... Hence the Orange work-site extension cord. I will arrange something better, eventually.

When I first turn it on the is a minor hum, that turns into a hiss when I get up to "10"...
Is this a defect?
You cannot hear it when I am playing, and you cannot hear it when nothing is plugged-in.
Or is it just my 20 foot cable with the 1/4" jacks?

But this thing is Nice. It gives a really True reproduction of the guitar's sound!
As well as every mistake I make! :rolleyes:
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-10-08 6:11 PM (#395687 - in reply to #395671)
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Love the pic. To heck with putting away the groceries. Let's plug her in, see how she sounds, then snap a pic for the forum!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-10-08 6:36 PM (#395688 - in reply to #395671)
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Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
To heck with putting away the groceries.
Probably that's OMA's Folgers busking 'jar'!

Arthur, my lil' Crate Model 5 has a 'warm up' pop and then all is well. I've read that is not uncommon.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-08 6:53 PM (#395689 - in reply to #395671)
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by 2ifbyC:
by ProfessorBB:
To heck with putting away the groceries.
Probably that's OMA's Folgers busking 'jar'!
Actually, Yes!

When I take the Trekker or CK047 out, they only have gig-bags. So I take the can.
(and that money was in there... Leave it there for 'seed money')
My MicroCube is in a backpack, and the CubeStreet is in that there tool-bag.
I haven't take my Crate Profiler out yet.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-10-08 6:55 PM (#395690 - in reply to #395671)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-10-08 7:40 PM (#395691 - in reply to #395671)
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My Crate (CA125D) has hiss all the time. I've read that it is in the tweeter and there's nothing I can do about it. Since I didn't pay much for it and rarely use it, it doesn't bother me.
You ought to be able to test another similar amp at a music store to see whether it has hiss.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-08 8:06 PM (#395692 - in reply to #395671)
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Thanx Mark, I will do that.
But I think that it might be the cable, also.
I stuffed a 99 cent cable in there and it really hummed.

BTW-- Be Careful With Your Guitars! IT IS WINTER AGAIN!

Besides that it is probably snowing in Mark's neck-o-the-woods...
This amp was Ice Cold when I opened the box.
And ski-lifts are open in Utah.
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Damon67
Posted 2009-10-08 8:40 PM (#395693 - in reply to #395671)
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Damn OMA, I'm a bit late in seeing this. There's a Marshall AS50R for sale up here for $100
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-08 9:00 PM (#395694 - in reply to #395671)
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I'm satisfied. Mine comes with a 5 year transferable warranty.
So even if the seller ain't an authorized dealer, it still works.

Plus I got an Montage coming tomorrow to play with...
So I'm all set until next week! :p



So, I'll see what I need to buy once I sell my Epiphone Demon... :eek:
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-10-08 9:42 PM (#395695 - in reply to #395671)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
So, I'll see what I need to buy once I sell my Epiphone Demon... :eek:
Day-um Art! You're selling off your youth...


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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-10-08 10:53 PM (#395696 - in reply to #395671)
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HOT ( ooh ) , Dayh - um Art .. yer selling of yer Drummer .. ye , G - DEC fiend .. :D

Vic

..did ya hear " `bout the Ape doin` his " Roll " , and .. Art , SOLD him..
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-10-08 11:04 PM (#395697 - in reply to #395671)
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Not very cold here, yet Art. Probably about the same as in Portland except dry. That's one of the problems with trying acoustic amps or guitars at the Guitar Center here. They have about 4 humidifiers running all the time in the acoustic room. I couldn't hear the hiss in my Crate when I tried it.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-09 12:49 AM (#395698 - in reply to #395671)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
So, I'll see what I need to buy once I sell my Epiphone Demon... :eek:
Day-um Art! You're selling off your youth...


Oh No... I have other toys if I wanna feel young and dumb! :cool:

(Although I do look old and slack-jawed and senile)
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-10-09 12:56 AM (#395699 - in reply to #395671)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Although I do look old and slack-jawed and senile
Hope you're not lookin' for sympathy from me...

Keep on rockin' my man!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-09 1:12 AM (#395700 - in reply to #395671)
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No, I get into this being old thing. (It beats the alternative)
I love telling the Kids that I was traveling the country when their Mom was trying Not to get pregnant.

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I tried to add this, but after I took 20 minutes to type it with one finger it told me my time had elapsed!

And Solid Top...
The 'Amp/Speaker' part of the G-DEC isn't that great. The speaker is kinda weak. You have to go into the menu and go through a bunch of ka-ka just to change some sound settings. And the only Backing Track I ever used was "Chicago Blues" to play riffs over, but that gets old. It did have a Lynyrd Skynyrd drum-beat/bass-line for "Gimme Three Steps" (without the turn-around), but otherwise there was not any Folk-Rock beat for doing any Neil Young, Tom Petty, or John Cougar Melonhead. I does have one for Johnny Cash's Folsom Prison (without the turn-around). So I sold it to a kid who is quite happy, although I lost $30... Oh Well.

Mark...
I found the 'hum'... It ain't really the amp. It was because I had an 'Open' cable plugged-in. It don't hum with no cable. If you plug an empty cable in there it Will Hum. But when you plug the other end into the guitar, No Hum. Aren't you glad I explained that? (Ho-Hum)

I am still kinda new at this. I am just now learning stuff that those Young'uns, and you Oldsters, leart when you first started playing at about 12!
My limited Musical Experience has been Carrying all the Equipment and getting Free Beer for it! :cool:
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FlySig
Posted 2009-10-09 10:07 AM (#395701 - in reply to #395671)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:

And ski-lifts are open in Utah.
It won't be long before it looks like this outside



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sard
Posted 2009-10-10 8:51 AM (#395702 - in reply to #395671)
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When I first turn it on the is a minor hum, that turns into a hiss when I get up to "10"...
Is this a defect?
You cannot hear it when I am playing, and you cannot hear it when nothing is plugged-in.
Or is it just my 20 foot cable with the 1/4"
jacks
Hello Old Man Arthur, I have the same amp and was getting a hum/hiss as well, then I check my wall plugs and had found out that I had an open ground, fixed it and no more hum on all my amps as well. Also a dimmer swicth can also induce a lot of hum/hiss. You can buy a circuit tester at any hardware store for under ten $. Hope this helps...Les
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-10 9:08 AM (#395703 - in reply to #395671)
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Thank You, Les... I found that most of the problem was just my own stupidity about an open cable.

BUT! I have Tons of sources for possible interference in my Room.
I live in a Studio Apartment which is a fancy way of saying "One Room and a Bathroom".
I've got refrigerator, microwave, computer, TV, stereo, VCR, DVD, cable box, three clock radios, printer, scanner, WiMax modem, cordless phone, and three fans. [Luckily my electricity is include in my Rent]

Do you think any of these could be causing interference? :eek: :D :p
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elginacres
Posted 2009-10-10 12:50 PM (#395704 - in reply to #395671)
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First Snow in Denver Today
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-10-10 1:54 PM (#395705 - in reply to #395671)
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Yeah, we got about three or four inches last night too. When I went out to scrape my car, I must confess, I discovered some new cuss words!

Both of my Crate acoustic amps will hiss a little bit when the volume is way up, but like you, I can't hear it when I'm playing, and I hardly ever turn the volume that high anyway. And they both give me the sound I want.
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