Strings on an Adamas
moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-10-17 12:57 AM (#394342)
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Anybody here use mediums on a 6 string Adamas, or are lights all that are used?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2009-10-17 2:01 AM (#394343 - in reply to #394342)
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Paul,

We've had mediums on the U681T and the 1687 Adamas I...like taking a 105 mm howitzer and upgrading it to a 155 mm howitzer. In other words, took a boomer and added a an extra punch.

When I restrung, I had a box of lights and no mediums so put lights on them.

Sorry for the military analogy but attended a moving ceremony this morning at Camp Pendleton. My son-in-law became the Commanding Officer of 1st Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division. Over the hills behind the landing zone, you could hear the fairly steady report of 155 mm howitzers.

For those "down under", Waltzing Matilda is the 1st Marine Division's official song...goes back to when the Division came to Melbourne in early 1943 following Guadalcanal, soon to leave to New Britain in the Northern Solomons. The Division Band played it as all former and current members of the 1st Marine Division stood.
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-10-17 2:53 AM (#394344 - in reply to #394342)
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Cool story Tony!!

AJ
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-10-17 3:05 AM (#394345 - in reply to #394342)
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I've had mediums (13-56) on my OFC Ding!-O. Lights (12-53) work better for me on that particular guitar.
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-10-17 8:40 AM (#394346 - in reply to #394342)
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Which Adamas? This reviewer says the heavier the better for his/her UTE. I don't have one ...yet...so I can't speak fist hand. Ask me after Christmas :)

http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Acoustic+Guitar/product/...
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-10-17 9:13 AM (#394347 - in reply to #394342)
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I've had med's on my Ute as well and Tony's analogy is spot on. I'll go back and forth on the Ute just for the differences but I do prefer the med's on that and lights on the 1537.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-10-17 9:52 AM (#394348 - in reply to #394342)
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I use Mediums on most OM, NEX, Dread and Ovation sized guitars. On smaller bodies like parlors and 000's I use lights. Although I'm not exactly diligent about it and it won't kill my sound of playing pleasure one way or the other.
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alpep
Posted 2009-10-17 10:37 AM (#394349 - in reply to #394342)
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mediums only
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-10-17 11:23 AM (#394350 - in reply to #394342)
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The UTE I picked up for Meuti had mediums and it sounded fantastic.
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Meuti
Posted 2009-10-23 4:46 AM (#394351 - in reply to #394342)
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Originally posted by kotadawg:
The UTE I picked up for Meuti had mediums and it sounded fantastic.
...and still does :D
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-10-23 8:44 AM (#394352 - in reply to #394342)
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Mediums on the dread, lights on everything else.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-10-23 10:54 AM (#394353 - in reply to #394342)
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Lights on everything. I've got a couple sets of cheap John Pearse extra lights sitting around, but I haven't figured out what to put them on. I used to use mediums on the Ute, but then figured that it was plenty loud enough with lights. It's not like anyone but me is listening.
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Beal
Posted 2009-10-23 11:49 AM (#394354 - in reply to #394342)
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13s on the 08 or whatever year it was. Lights on the originals. 14s on the longnecks.
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-10-23 12:32 PM (#394355 - in reply to #394342)
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My ute came with lights, they were the original strings. Changed them to Dadd. custom lights (what I had laying around) and it still rumbles with 11-52s. I don't know if I am man enough to go to 13s :) Like Mark I mostly play for myself except for church and I am plugged in to the system there and our sound tech usually make sure I cannot be heard....
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Damon67
Posted 2009-10-23 1:39 PM (#394356 - in reply to #394342)
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Originally posted by Beal:
....14s on the longnecks.
Oh man, instant GAS attack... again
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-23 10:26 PM (#394357 - in reply to #394342)
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I switched to mediums on everthing I own about two years ago, and every one of the guitar's sound improved noticeably. Not quite as easy to bend notes, but it really puts on the punch.

TONY ... I spent about 12 years on Camp Pendleton listening and creating some of those earth shakers. If you think THAT is cool, you ought to be around when the aircraft start dropping some 2000 pounders. That'll shiver-ye-timbers!
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Tony Calman
Posted 2009-10-24 12:25 AM (#394358 - in reply to #394342)
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Although I flew RF-4 and EA6 a/c, I spent time at Infantry Training Regiment, Regimental Asst. Operations Officer (S-3A) of the 5th Marine Regiment, and had two ground battalions. In addition, at Basic School, got to pull the lanyard of a few.

However, more fun dropping the ordnance than being on the ground "danger close".
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Todd
Posted 2009-10-24 9:37 AM (#394359 - in reply to #394342)
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Regardless of guage, any comments on Phosphor bronze vs.Bronze on a UTE? I think the bronze have more sparkle but tarnish and deaden quicker.
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-24 10:47 AM (#394360 - in reply to #394342)
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I've used the phosphor bronze on and off for a while and I like the tone they give. I do remember my fingers being black after playing though. That was my indicator that it was time for a string change again. I am currently experimenting with Alchemys, and they look and sound great, but the jusry is still out as to whether they're worth the price.

It's too bad we cant just get some straight, non-sales-pitch, scientific evaluation that would tell us which are the BEST strings to use for each application. As it is, all we can do is keep switching them out and get frustrated for not being able tell the differences.

Maybe the answer is to buy a bunch of sets, and put one on each guitar, and then make a side-by-side comparison? But to do that effectively I'd have to have 6 or more of the same model instrument. Maybe one of our "dealer" members could take on the experiment? Or for that matter - how about an impartial factory test and evaluation? or is that really possible?)Who knows? maybe it's already been done? Anyone have some hard data?

"frustrated"
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FlySig
Posted 2009-10-24 11:25 AM (#394361 - in reply to #394342)
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Vince, I am on the never ended quest for the "best" string for each instrument. Just when I find one that seems perfect, something else catches my eye.

I do keep notes to have a record of what has worked well or not.
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hwebster
Posted 2009-10-24 12:03 PM (#394362 - in reply to #394342)
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Vince- That is the question next question I had four type of strings you use for the 1587 but I see you what you posted "midium" Any specific brands you have tried for this guitar, please let me know. I send you an email, an envolope arrived this morning and should be in you PO Box. Thanks.
Hector
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-24 1:06 PM (#394363 - in reply to #394342)
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I've been using Alchemy GoldPhos Mediums lately.(by Dean Markley) I like to play fingerstyle on that guitar because of its pure sound, and in addition to the "super sensitive tonal qualities" of the strings, the gold tone looks pretty cool on that black guitar. I actually used the Adamas mediums for quite a while and was pretty satisfied. They are relatively inexpensive also. I just like to try new ones out once in a while.Especially if they are boasting some new technology (:
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bburg
Posted 2009-10-24 2:31 PM (#394364 - in reply to #394342)
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Hi Guys,

has anyone heared about "Thomastik-Infeld"- Strings?
http://www.thomastik-infeld.com/start/index.html
That are handmade strings made in Vienna. I use them on nearly all of my guitars. The sound is warm, bright, very good balanced and the playability is exellent. I'm very happy with them.
I use "Spectrum"-mediums on guitars with not so good tops like my cc65. I use classical strings (steel strings for classical or folk guitars) on my 1614. They are X-light, but they don't rumble.
Or I use the "John Pearse" fingerpicking set on my classic 1713.
Before I had used strings from D'addario, Martin and Adamas, they are all not as good balanced as them from Thomasik-Infeld. Well,that is my owen opinion. I love them.


Bernie
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-10-24 2:44 PM (#394365 - in reply to #394342)
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Sincrest of congratulations to your son and you, Tony. How proud you must be.

As for strings, (duh) what kind of Adamas strings are on the brand new 1687's? I just got mine from Al two days ago, and I really like them. The guitar sounds BEAUTIFUL. I will have to take out the 1978 and compare the two ...

;)
Willa
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standing
Posted 2009-10-25 5:01 PM (#394366 - in reply to #394342)
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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
As for strings, (duh) what kind of Adamas strings are on the brand new 1687's? I just got mine from Al two days ago, and I really like them. The guitar sounds BEAUTIFUL. I will have to take out the 1978 and compare the two ...

;)
Willa
Willa,

I have no idea what kind of strings are on it, but congrats on your new guitar! Did I miss a post on that one? Did you really slip a new Adamas into your collection without any fanfare? We love to vicariously share the excitement of new guitars. Photos? Review? Comaparisons with your others? (You know the drill…) ;)
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-26 9:00 AM (#394367 - in reply to #394342)
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Just though I'd give a final review on the Alchemy strings ...

They have a very fine shell coating on them that almost feels like super-fine sandpaper. This works really nice for the right hand when playing fingerstyle, but the left hand really squeeks a bit more than normal on the strings. So I applied silicone spray on the strings over the fretboard side using a rag. It seemed to help a bit, but kinda' a pain in the rear. They have a very noticeably bright sound, more than any string I've used so far. I spoke with a friend that has used them and he said the same thing. He also claimed that they lasted longer (held their tonal qualities)than any other string he has used. When playing rhythm last weekend, there was a noticeable sound difference from the Adamas strings I used the week before. They were a bit more metallic sounding than I am used to, and to me they made the guitar sound like the other guitarist's non-Os. (which I didn't really care for) Are they worth the extra money? ... The jury is still out that one.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-10-26 9:23 AM (#394368 - in reply to #394342)
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I just changed the strings on the 47 RI last night: I had a set of medium Elixirs on it and they were dead sounding (and I am usually a fan of Elixirs on wood bodied guitars): the only medium sets I had were the John Pearse strings I use on the Martin D-28 and a set of D'Addario EXP17's...I went with the D'Addario's: what a difference: they sound great. I use D'Addario's on most of my O's and A's: the O's are usually Lt. gauge and Med. on A's...I am becoming a fan of the EXP's since the factory started putting them on the guitars returning from the mothership...ymmv
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-26 10:51 AM (#394369 - in reply to #394342)
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I had heard they were sending them out with EXPs also. I also once heard that the Adamas strings were actually made by D'Adarrio, but I haven't heard anything else to confirm or deny that.(anybody know anything about that?)
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-26 10:52 AM (#394370 - in reply to #394342)
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-10-26 7:42 PM (#394371 - in reply to #394342)
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Standing, I bought the guitars at the same time. Here's sneak peak. My photo programs are giving me some trouble, so excuse the crummy shot:



Aren't they lovely? They sound beautiful, but yes, different.

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Willa
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standing
Posted 2009-10-26 9:45 PM (#394372 - in reply to #394342)
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Wow Willa, those are beautiful! So, they are twins born 30 years apart? How cool is that? Congratulations!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-10-26 10:41 PM (#394373 - in reply to #394342)
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The one on the left is the reissue? 2 knobber? The one on the right is older as you can tell from the yellowing snot blob (think I have one of those on my shirt)....
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-10-26 11:51 PM (#394374 - in reply to #394342)
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Paul,

Yes, the one on the left is the reissue; it's the only photo my computer would let me put up, so I couldn't put a better shot up. It's is a two knobber. They both sound beautiful, but they really do sound differnt. The sustain is the same on both of them. The action is the same on both of them. The new one seems quite lighter weight-wise than the older one. The older one has a glossed neck, the new one doesn't.

;)
Willa
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-10-28 12:05 AM (#394375 - in reply to #394342)
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P.S. I like the snot glob. However, I don't have one on my shirt... at least I hope I don't.

My brother, who is visiting, was playing the new one today and he stopped playing, got a really serious look on his face and said, "Can I have it?". "You're funny", I replied.

It is just an incredibly beautiful sounding guitar, period. Thanks, Lost Art Vintage!

;)
Willa
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-10-28 11:36 AM (#394376 - in reply to #394342)
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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
The new one seems quite lighter weight-wise than the older one.
Interesting ... do the 30th anniversary reissues have the Lyracord GS micro-sphere bowls? If memory serves me, I think that would account for about a half a pound. And what did the originals have ... standard lyracord or hand-laid fiberglass?
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