UTE at Elderly
Todd
Posted 2009-10-24 9:32 AM (#393444)
Subject: UTE at Elderly


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Theres a used U681T at Elderly, its on hold.
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-10-24 10:47 AM (#393445 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Asking $1,300. Be interesting to see what that goes for...
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-24 10:50 AM (#393446 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly



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On hold? I'd like to hold it myself. Too bad I can't get away this weekend.
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standing
Posted 2009-10-24 1:52 PM (#393447 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly



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"On hold" at Elderly generally means someone has already purchased it online, but the payment has not been processed yet.

In other words; someone beat you to it…
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-26 1:12 PM (#393448 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly



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Well I need another guitar like I need a whole in the head.
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-10-26 1:58 PM (#393449 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Originally posted by bvince:
Well I need another guitar like I need a whole in the head.
Umm that would be multi-holes. Don't worry about too many holes in the head, Al probably has some airlocks to keep you going.
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-26 4:11 PM (#393450 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly



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Air locks? Would that mean that I would be considered an Air Head?
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-01 9:32 AM (#393451 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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No longer on hold. Price is high but since it is consignment there probably is room for negotiation.

http://elderly.com/vintage/items/20U-12600.htm
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alpep
Posted 2009-12-01 9:39 AM (#393452 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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the price is high??????????????

I hate the price police!!!!!!!
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-01 9:40 AM (#393453 - in reply to #393444)
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yea right
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-01 11:36 AM (#393454 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly



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Originally posted by twistedlim:
Price is high
$1300 for that guitar is not high.

If anything I would consider it to be on the low end of the scale.

What is your basis for that comment?

Sorry Rich but imho it is comments like yours that cause potential buyers of an excellent guitar at a good price to have second thoughts and lose out on a good opportunity.
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-01 11:55 AM (#393455 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Mmm, I got mine for a lot, a lot less but it does not mean it is not worth more. Supply, demand and general market conditions will tell. The last thing I would want to do is discourage anyone from getting this fine instrument. That is why I thought it was high but I will humbly stand to be corrected.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-01 12:00 PM (#393456 - in reply to #393444)
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Getting a good deal doesn't set the standard.
Just means you were at the right place/right time.
We call that lucky where I come from! ;)

Tough times drag pricing down. I remember about a year or two ago these were routinely passing hands for around 1500-1800 and they were considered a bargain!
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alpep
Posted 2009-12-01 12:26 PM (#393457 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Originally posted by twistedlim:
yea right
yea right I do hate the price police.

if there is a problem let me know.
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Meuti
Posted 2009-12-01 12:33 PM (#393458 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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I paid 1300 for mine plus shipping to Germany and taxes, and I still consider it a very good price. Now that I have her, I certainly would have even paid more. It's an incredible instrument.
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-12-01 1:01 PM (#393459 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Originally posted by Meuti:
I paid 1300 for mine plus shipping to Germany and taxes, and I still consider it a very good price. Now that I have her, I certainly would have even paid more. It's an incredible instrument.
Send me the difference between what you would pay now and what you paid.
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Meuti
Posted 2009-12-01 1:04 PM (#393460 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Hehe. Just come over here and pick it up personally :D
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-12-01 1:08 PM (#393461 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Originally posted by twistedlim:
Mmm, I got mine for a lot, a lot less but it does not mean it is not worth more. Supply, demand and general market conditions will tell. The last thing I would want to do is discourage anyone from getting this fine instrument. That is why I thought it was high but I will humbly stand to be corrected.
I paid $400 for a barely played USA standard Strat, but I don't consider $700-$800 a high price for one. I was lucky. Right place, right time.
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bvince
Posted 2009-12-01 1:52 PM (#393462 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly



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I'm sure you are all corect in saying this is an outstanding instrument, but I never cared for its looks. I like a lot more bling. I guess it's a "guy thing"
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-01 2:10 PM (#393463 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Well, I am certainly offended that you don't like the sparkles on my guitar. My wife thinks the leaves look pretty. :)

(I like the 1680 look better but my wallet says it likes the UTE)
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-01 2:41 PM (#393464 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Originally posted by alpep:
Originally posted by twistedlim:
yea right
yea right I do hate the price police.

if there is a problem let me know.


Argggg, I give up....

From another site that has a large buy/sell board:


"You are NOT the "price police" of this board. If you don't agree with an item's price, or if you know a place where the same item is being sold for less, do NOT interfere or post your opinion/prices on the thread in question. The seller may not know what the "politically correct" price. Members posting prices or being hostile to the seller's threads will be warned or even have their accounts locked."

Good rules to live by, but they have nothing to do with a discussion on the general forum. If the guitar was posted on the buy and sell forum by an OFC member and I stated the price was a bit high, yes that would be price policing.
This is a discussion about a guitar that is for sale at a retailer. I pointed out that it was on consignment and that there is often room to bargain as the store most likely did not set the price (and that I thought the price might be high...based on my recent first hand experience). So yes that is the problem I have with it. But, there are bigger problems I have to deal with.
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alpep
Posted 2009-12-01 2:51 PM (#393465 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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if you need a vacation I can accommodate
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schroeder
Posted 2009-12-01 4:41 PM (#393466 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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Originally posted by bvince:
I'm sure you are all corect in saying this is an outstanding instrument, but I never cared for its looks. I like a lot more bling. I guess it's a "guy thing"
It's got a fat ass courtesy of the bridge being moved back. Standing upright it's one of the ugliest guitars you'll see. When it first came out I laughed at all the idiots who thought it was a visitation from on high.
Put it on your knee and play it and it's simply as good as guitars get. I've got more expensive ones, better looking ones, more comfortable to play ones. But it's the best. Any guitar I play, I judge it compared to the ute. Moody says it never floated his boat, people buy them, say they're the greatest and then sell them. But to me it's the best 6 string ever to come out of New Hartford, and the 12 string (all 5 of them - the rarest Adamas?) is simply one of the best guitars ever made by anybody anywhere ever.
Given that there's only 100 or thereabouts of them, $10,000 is cheap. I'm lucky - I could afford to buy any new acoustic out there and have it gold plated, but since I got the ute I've never even thought about buying an acoustic guitar.
(Except maybe Tom Tennant's custom ute and jW's custom pair - which are the equal of any guitars anywhere at any price.)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-12-01 5:19 PM (#393467 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly
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Schroeder took the words right out of my mouth (there's a pun there somewhere ...) The U681 is far from beautiful in the traditional guitar sense (fine silking wood, exquisite trims and inlays, blah bling, blah bling). And I for one DO tend to buy with my eyes. But this little beast can stand with the best of them and my opinion is unchanged since strum one back in the day. Ditto on the 12, just like the man says. Hey I'm no barometer and why the hell should my actions mean much, but maybe stop and consider the various Adamas 6 and 12 strings that I've jettisoned in the last few years? While the U681 pair stand at the ready and are in constant heavy rotation. I just love the things, no matter how they may look. If the truely IS a price police, they should be arresting the people who sell these off so cheap.
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gulfcoast
Posted 2009-12-01 5:44 PM (#393468 - in reply to #393444)
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i like the way they look.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2009-12-01 5:56 PM (#393469 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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all of us michiganders like to go somewhere warm on vacation at this time of the year. :p GWB
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2009-12-01 6:16 PM (#393470 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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OH...if I thought I could get away with it I'd get this NOW NOW NOW!!!!

My wife would kill me in my sleep.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-01 6:25 PM (#393471 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly



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Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
OH...if I thought I could get away with it
better to ask forgiveness than permission!
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Waskel
Posted 2009-12-01 6:42 PM (#393472 - in reply to #393444)
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Hard to do, posthumously.
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-01 6:56 PM (#393473 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly


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If anyone is seriously interested I may be able to get there to check it out in person. Shoot me a PM. You can usually take elderly's word though. They are some pretty upright folks there.
There are not many out there...so get on your horse and get a git that sparkles...er I mean shines :)

Just look at how nice they blend into the woods:

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MWoody
Posted 2009-12-01 6:56 PM (#393474 - in reply to #393444)
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TWPPPPBF's
(tight-wad-penny-pinch'in-price-police'n-bottom-feeder)

Rather than saying it is priced too high what you really mean is that you think you can get the same thing at a lower price.
It cuts both ways and as we all know "worth" and "price" are not the same thing.

Any one that has ever written a check for toilet paper while 5 days in to a 7 day hike should fully understand this.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-12-01 7:12 PM (#393475 - in reply to #393444)
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Also on price topic, Too Expensive cuz I ain't got the money is different from someone who Has the money but thinks that if they wait long enough they might get it from a more desperate person for cheaper...

To put price into perspective... That is only a hunnert and change more than I paid for my 1681.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-01 7:29 PM (#393476 - in reply to #393444)
Subject: Re: UTE at Elderly
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Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
posthumously
Here I lie besides my Ute
Six feet under, no dispute
Instead of buying a chunk of glass
Here I am, pushing up the grass

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noah
Posted 2009-12-01 7:48 PM (#393477 - in reply to #393444)
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I like the way they play and I like their voice.
My choice of epi's would probably have been different.
The UTEs are not ugly guitars. If they are ugly, what are you comparing them too? There is more to it than having a preference for blonds, brunettes, or redheads... muscular, lean, or meaty builds... or different flavors of ice cream.
IMHO, the UTEs are a fine example of form-following-function in an application of technology and non-traditional materials. I would compare them to other 12-fretters on playability and sound produced, but comparing their looks to beautiful woods does not make sense to me.

Some of the UTEs had random dull and/or shiny patches in the finish on their tops and there were some other random quality issues that some owners decided not to have corrected. I've seen some of those guitars go for less, but you get what you pay for.
The UTE at Elderly looks great. Their price is less than what we paid for them new and you rarely see UTEs up for sale. You can try to negotiate. You can wait and see if they'll lower their price. Someone will eventually buy it and be very happy.
Bottom-feeding is fun. Getting a great deal on a great guitar is priceless. Elderly's UTE is not a bottom-feeder's guitar.

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bvince
Posted 2009-12-02 10:53 AM (#393478 - in reply to #393444)
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Hey Now! Don't be offended just because I said I didn't care for its looks! I actually said that to see how many of you would take the hook (: (MuWHaaa-Ha-Ha!)

If they have her there for a while I hope to go and check it out for myself.
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