OT: Taylor Solidbody, Rant?
MWoody
Posted 2009-11-01 1:59 PM (#392677)
Subject: OT: Taylor Solidbody, Rant?



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Rant?
Maybe.

I was in my favorite local Music Store yesterday and noted that they had fewer Ovations and a Scuzzillion Taylors covering the full spectrum.

The high point for me was playing the Taylor Custom solidbody in Walnut.
Custom Solidbody in Walnut

It was everything I'd expect a 2009 Viper to be!
(pause now for deep thought)


Now that Tacoma is dust and Ovation is yet to be rediscovered Taylor is absolutely eating your lunch and taking your Milk-money.

...and your Girlfriend has them on speed dial!

FMIC, did I make myself clear?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-11-01 3:08 PM (#392678 - in reply to #392677)
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If it plays half as good as it looks, you are spot on MWoody...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-11-01 3:16 PM (#392679 - in reply to #392677)
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For roughly the same money, I'd buy a Talladega. I like the guitars out of New Hartford.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-11-01 3:29 PM (#392680 - in reply to #392677)
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That Taylor IS a beautiful looking instrument.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-11-01 3:42 PM (#392681 - in reply to #392677)
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Originally posted by MWoody:


It was everything I'd expect a 2009 Viper to be!
(pause now for deep thought)


Speaking of 2009 Vipers...it's 2009 and g8r just bought a Viper!
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dweezil
Posted 2009-11-01 3:51 PM (#392682 - in reply to #392677)
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Whatever floats your boat!

I love my Ovations AND Taylor AND others.

My good friend has a great saying...

Love many...
Hate a few...
And always paddle your own canoe!

Nuff said!
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-11-01 4:27 PM (#392683 - in reply to #392677)
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The nice thing (for Taylor) is that people will buy these just because of the name. As opposed to putting the name Ovation on the headstock of a solidbody which is pretty much the kiss of death.
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Losov
Posted 2009-11-01 4:40 PM (#392684 - in reply to #392677)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
The nice thing (for Taylor) is that people will buy these just because of the name.
There's got to be more to it than that. Case in point: How many of these have you come across?
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-11-01 4:57 PM (#392685 - in reply to #392677)
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I don't know about that. I have a beautiful G&L telecaster....as good or better than a real telecaster. But it's a G&L and no one cares....resale value, way less than a Fender. Why, the NAME.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-11-01 4:59 PM (#392686 - in reply to #392677)
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Exactly my point. A Martin player isn't gonna fall for the hype and buy a guitar just because it is a Martin. But a Taylor lemming dressed in clones sheep will line up and buy anyting that remotely smells of cool aid. That's how they sell so many guitars.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-11-01 5:28 PM (#392687 - in reply to #392677)
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I`ve seen BETTER ... for a lot less , made by G&L Korea no less.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-01 8:26 PM (#392688 - in reply to #392677)
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Dave (as usual) seems to understand my point better than others and I do appreciate other brands for what they do right.

The specific guitar I pointed to is an awesome feeling, playing and sounding instrument. Of course I would shop extensively and make sure I got a good price but I'm older and cheaper than most.

My main regret was that this is exactly what should have come out of New Hartford had they had the Marketeering support. Some Parralells:

- Tight CNC workmanship
- Brand only designed Bridge
- Bolt on Neck vs, Screws
- 1 11/16" wide neck that felt so-o-o-o-o-o Viper like it wasn't funny
- Brand only Electronics
- The ability to Customize your order.

By the way, I think every one of the features shown on the Taylor I've seen on models of Ovation PF, Viper, UKII or Deacon from 30 years ago.

Bob Taylor has managed to sell his innovative ideas and using market wisdom he has fostered a cult following which has allowed him to sell more of his ideas.

These ideas, however are not new and I guess what I'm really mourning is that the people that originally pushed this envelope are now broke down and in the Pit without a sponsor...

And the cars keep going around and around.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-11-01 8:37 PM (#392689 - in reply to #392677)
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If it plays half as good as it looks, you are spot on MWoody...
Mike, I agree: I played one several months ago at a music store in Johnson City, Tn...I have to say before I saw one in person, I wasn't all that impressed: then I played one: I loved it: Smaller than I thought but sounded great and the attention to detail was spot-on wonderful. If I could have afforded it at the time, I would have bought it. The one that I played needed a setup (I prefer lower action) but other than that, I really liked it.

But, then I found and bought this:



No plans to buy the Taylor now...this is all I could hope for... :cool:

Go here and double click each image for supersize:
PRS \'01 Custom 22

To be fair, I do like the carved top Hamer's...Maybe later... :rolleyes:

For now, the overall package and playability of this guitar (my first PRS) just blew me away.
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ladylaw
Posted 2009-11-01 9:20 PM (#392690 - in reply to #392677)
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Paul Reed Smith custom guitars proudly made here in Maryland on the eastern shore just over the Bay Bridge. I don't work for them, or even own one I just think it's neat that we have a guitar factory in our state. If this is inappropriate, Al or Miles and should come down, I wont mind.

Anita
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ladylaw
Posted 2009-11-01 9:21 PM (#392691 - in reply to #392677)
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Paul Reed Smith custom guitars proudly made here in Maryland on the eastern shore just over the Bay Bridge. I don't work for them, or even own one I just think it's neat that we have a guitar factory in our state. If this is inappropriate, Al or Miles and should come down, I wont mind.

Anita
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ladylaw
Posted 2009-11-01 9:22 PM (#392692 - in reply to #392677)
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Double post oops
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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-01 9:34 PM (#392693 - in reply to #392677)
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That's ok Anita, most us of men don't listen so your probably used to repeating yourself.
:rolleyes:
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-11-01 10:18 PM (#392694 - in reply to #392677)
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We've all done it Anita...np
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-11-01 10:26 PM (#392695 - in reply to #392677)
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Agree about the PRS. I don't know much about solidbodies (I own one Telecaster) but I know when I look at certain ones with beautiful design and build quality I just drool. PRS definately falls into this category.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-11-02 12:45 AM (#392696 - in reply to #392677)
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If we ever get nice weather again, I'll take better pic's: a nice sunshine day would make the 10 top pop...
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ladylaw
Posted 2009-11-02 1:15 AM (#392697 - in reply to #392677)
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Originally posted by MWoody:
That's ok Anita, most us of men don't listen so your probably used to repeating yourself.
:rolleyes:
So true.

Anita
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-11-02 1:41 AM (#392698 - in reply to #392677)
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Woodsman ,
I think that I do Understand , ..
However , .. Workmanship .. Craftsmanship .. Looks .. all that combined t`gether , and Yer Up t` Quality !! ..
Was n`t that what yer post was about .. No !?? ..
Innovation then , ..!? .. Allright , `Kay .. and throw-in Cult-Following.. and We`re back where We are ..
What Do We Like .. What Do We Want ...
Good question !?? ..
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Tony Calman
Posted 2009-11-02 2:53 AM (#392699 - in reply to #392677)
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The lowly Viper...yet, Temp borrowed Michael's Book Viper (with the Bose) and demo'd at NAMM. He will be using the same setup this year.

It was amazing what he got out of the guitar and the crowd that he attracted.

As we look back, some excellent guitars, to include the electrics, that either came out at the wrong time or didn't have the marketing/artist relation support.

Those who make the effort and take the risk get the market share.

Course, as Bill would say...CLICK
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muzza
Posted 2009-11-02 4:10 AM (#392700 - in reply to #392677)
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Originally posted by the Taylor Site:
Neck
We wrote the book on straight, easy-playing necks.
D'ya reckon, do ya??
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gulfcoast
Posted 2009-11-02 7:27 AM (#392701 - in reply to #392677)
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Does Trader Jim have one yet?
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-11-02 8:05 AM (#392702 - in reply to #392677)
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Originally posted by gulfcoast:
Does Trader Jim have one yet?
I don't think TJ plays solid bodies, but if he wants one, there's a stunning one on the Gear Page that's available.
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