'88 Collectors?
Darkbar
Posted 2009-11-03 5:17 PM (#392514)
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Wow, does this thing look cool! ovation collectors
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Waskel
Posted 2009-11-03 5:34 PM (#392515 - in reply to #392514)
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Yes, those are nice.
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G8r
Posted 2009-11-03 5:40 PM (#392516 - in reply to #392514)
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You know that's a D-scale (longneck), right? Might actually suit your voice, you wouldn't have to capo as often (or as high on the neck).
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-11-03 5:48 PM (#392517 - in reply to #392514)
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I'm confused. The Ovation website says the long necks are 28 inches and change, but the '88 Collector's is 25 inches and change. I love the looks of this guitar, and although I don't care for super shallows, I WOULD love to get a long neck someday. Not that ANYTHING can help my lousey singing, but it would be fun to play with.
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G8r
Posted 2009-11-03 5:56 PM (#392518 - in reply to #392514)
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I may be wrong. I thought it was longneck, but it may just be a standard scale with 16 frets to the body.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-11-03 6:03 PM (#392519 - in reply to #392514)
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Not a longneck. Just 16 frets to the body, with the bridge sitting higher in the waist.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-11-03 6:04 PM (#392520 - in reply to #392514)
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It sure is pretty though. I didn't notice the 16 frets, but maybe it is a "semi" long neck? I would imagine you could tune it down, and maybe that would help it to sound bass-ier. I wish I could find one to try out, but chances of that are pretty slim.

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Beal
Posted 2009-11-03 6:09 PM (#392521 - in reply to #392514)
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regular scale, 16 to the body
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Waskel
Posted 2009-11-03 6:14 PM (#392522 - in reply to #392514)
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Alison, it's regular scale. It just looks longer because it's set further out. Compare it to 14 fret Elites and you'll see the bridge is up higher in the waist.
Tuning it down would be no different than on a regular Elite.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-11-03 6:40 PM (#392523 - in reply to #392514)
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I like the 16 fret 90 Collector in birdseye maple better. It also came in a deep bowl version, but they are hard to find. I bought one here for another OFC member and had it for just a few days, living vicariously.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-11-03 6:56 PM (#392524 - in reply to #392514)
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So Waskel, you've played one? Did the placement of the bridge make a difference in the tone? Normally I don't care what a guitar LOOKS like if it sounds good, but the looks on this have me interested. It's not like I can AFFORD another guitar right now, but...
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-11-03 7:07 PM (#392525 - in reply to #392514)
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I don't even WANT another guitar, but this one is HOT!
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G8r
Posted 2009-11-03 7:09 PM (#392526 - in reply to #392514)
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Put a black saddle and ebony buttons on it, it'd be an emo guitar. It is cool looking.
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-11-03 8:16 PM (#392527 - in reply to #392514)
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Yeah, I like it too. Something about that smoky black with the cutaway...like the 2080 , which I think is a VERY cool guitar.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-11-03 8:40 PM (#392528 - in reply to #392514)
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another one...
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Todd G.
Posted 2009-11-03 9:30 PM (#392529 - in reply to #392514)
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This was the first Ovation that I ever played and, consequently, really lusted after. Citadel Music in Colorado Springs had one prominently displayed at the entrance of the store. Every time I walked through the mall with my girlfriend I had to make sure I at least walked by and looked at it. I played it a handful of times and liked the way it played--it was comfortable to hold, too. I would still like to own one of these.
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2009-11-03 9:43 PM (#392530 - in reply to #392514)
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I am home from Iraq on a two-week mid-tour leave and enjoying being reunited with my 88.
It is a very nice looking, playing, and sounding Ovation.
Obviously not a booming as a deepie but still very nice sounding one.
Pricing on these is hit and miss, I saw one go on E-Bay last month for $350 something bucks!
The color kind grabbed me more than anything when I bought it, a really neat gun-metal blueish grey.
Admittedly, if the Store had had an 87 left I would have bought it instead but this one is still a great guitar.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-11-03 10:32 PM (#392531 - in reply to #392514)
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Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
So Waskel, you've played one? Did the placement of the bridge make a difference in the tone?
Actually, no, I haven't played one. (That is, that I remember. I may have played one at the factory, but it's been over two years ago.)
I simply compared the picture in the Ovation archive with a normal Elite.
As far as the tone, I'm certainly not an expert in these matters but it seems to me that you would get more of a difference in tone and volume by moving the bridge farther down into the lower bout (ala Longnecks), rather than farther up into the waist where the top is more rigid.
I could be wrong, but isn't this the only acoustic 16 fret-to-body they made? Might be a reason.

I agree though, they are striking.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-11-03 11:05 PM (#392532 - in reply to #392514)
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Originally posted by Michael R. Winters:
I am home from Iraq on a two-week mid-tour leave
Welcome home, Michael, even though if only for a short while!
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Todd G.
Posted 2009-11-03 11:37 PM (#392533 - in reply to #392514)
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I think the 1990 was also a 24 fret (16 to the neck). Mark also mentions this in his post (up a few).
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Waskel
Posted 2009-11-03 11:50 PM (#392534 - in reply to #392514)
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Ok, they did it twice on Collectors. Anyone know if there were any 16 fret production models? Beal? Dave? Jerome? Moody?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-11-04 12:40 AM (#392535 - in reply to #392514)
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Sure, the 1990 Collectors ....
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-11-04 1:14 AM (#392536 - in reply to #392514)
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Gen II Vipers (EA-68) are 16 frets to the body, too. For me, it makes a lot of difference in how they play. On a regular Elite style guitar, I imagine moving the bridge up would have a effect on the tone and volume in the same way that a 12 fret puts out a different sound because of the bridge placement vs a 14 fretter. Since the bracing on the 88 and 90 are stock Quintad, I don't think they're optimized given the bridge position. I played an '88 at one of the factory jams a few years back, and while the looks were real cool and I liked the electric-style neck, the acoustic sound underwhelmed me. I imagine it's much better suited for plugged in work.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-11-04 1:32 AM (#392537 - in reply to #392514)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Sure, the 1990 Collectors ....
Ok, so that's still two... :rolleyes:

Thanks, Bob, I hadn't thought about the EA-68s. I guess I don't think of them as acoustics, more like hollow-body electrics.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-11-04 12:17 PM (#392538 - in reply to #392514)
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OK, so what I need to do is figure out all the other features I want, and then custom order a guitar in that color. Um, after I hit the lottery. :rolleyes:
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