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Location: Texas | Gibson Guitars Raided by FBI for Illegal Importation of Rosewood.
http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/2009/11/gibson_guita...
http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2009/11/17/gibson_guitars_raided_...
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091117/BUSINESS/91117075/Fish+&... |
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Location: closely held secret | Monkey lovin' tree huggers. |
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| Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
Monkey lovin' tree huggers. Yeah, but as one of my friends might say, "Couldn't happen to a nicer person." |
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Location: SoCal | The "plausible deniability" defense...
Gibson said that it is “a chain of custody certified buyer who purchases wood from legal suppliers who are to follow all standards.”
yep... that's what we'll say if we ever get busted |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by noah:
The "plausible deniability" defense...
Gibson said that it is “a chain of custody certified buyer who purchases wood from legal suppliers who are to follow all standards.”
yep... that's what we'll say if we ever get busted Hell, I say that to my wife on an almost weekly basis..... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
Monkey lovin' tree huggers. George Carlin - Save the Planet! :p |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | BRILLIANT ! |
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Location: closely held secret | He always was a master of common sense. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | what G8R said |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Gee now they will be getting unwanted legal fees
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Location: Flahdaw | I heard the cardboard used in the Estaban guitars was manufactured in illegal Chinese sweatshops, but no one's raiding THEM. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Kathie Lee must be handing out favors in China Esteban shops again... |
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Location: Flahdaw | Kathie Lee was manufactured in a Chinese sweatshop. |
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Location: nashville | I wonder how many "Dove and Hummingbirds" the Fish and Wildlife Agency took into protective custy. Maybe they will put them up for adoption. |
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Location: Whitecourt, Ab | What do Lemurs taste like, anyway? |
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| Originally posted by rededdie:
What do Lemurs taste like, anyway? Chicken.
(C'mon, somebody had to say it...) |
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Location: closely held secret | More like grilled spotted owl. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | they should be charged with pricing their guitars too high. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by G8r:
Originally posted by rededdie:
What do Lemurs taste like, anyway? Chicken.
(C'mon, somebody had to say it...) |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | You would THINK that the FBI would have more important things to spend their time and efforts (and our tax dollars) on these days ... Like perhaps keeping us all safe from terrorism! For some reason I just don't feel more secure today, knowing that there's less illegally-imported rosewood in the country. |
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Location: out there | The way the CEO of Gibson treats people and competitors and customers he is a terrorist. |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | They will get a fine, and their prices will go up to cover it.
It was the Fish & Wildlife Feds... you know, the ones that sell fishing and hunting licenses. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by Auriemma:
It was the Fish & Wildlife Feds... you know, the ones that sell fishing and hunting licenses. Those guys! Always pushing their weight around just because they're at the top of the law enforcement food chain. :mad: |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | Originally posted by darkbarguitar:
Originally posted by Auriemma:
It was the Fish & Wildlife Feds... you know, the ones that sell fishing and hunting licenses. Those guys! Always pushing their weight around just because they're at the top of the law enforcement food chain. :mad: |
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| Didn't I read somewhere that the rainforest was being bulldozed clear to make room for more profitable endeavors, and since it was illegal to sell the lumber, it was being burned ? So goodbye trees anyway ....
Maybe I'm wrong, can't remember the source. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Wolf Papa sez -- Didn't I read somewhere that the rainforest was being bulldozed clear to make room for more profitable endeavors, and since it was illegal to sell the lumber, it was being burned ? So goodbye trees anyway .... Maybe I'm wrong, can't remember the source.
That sounds about right.
They don't harvest a lot of that wood. (Yes, they harvest some, but the primary goal is the Land)
What good is a Rosewood grove if you cannot harvest it?
You could be growing Food, make Pasture land, Golf courses, Resorts for Rich White Folks... |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
...Resorts for Rich White Folks... Hey! I resent that remark. :D |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | I wish I resembled that remark. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by seesquare:
I wish I resembled that remark. (honestly, me too) |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Federal agents raid Gibson Guitars Wish they used the same enthusiasm for the trolls... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Federal agents raid Gibson Guitars Wish they used the same enthusiasm for the trolls... |
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Location: Southeastern PA | Good news for me? The case focuses on rosewood from Madagascar. Perhaps the USF&WS will extend their scope to ebony. I'm selling my 1981 Gibson Victory MV-X. Although the body and neck are maple, the fretboard is ebony. I may be able to promote it as a "green product", "Pre-Lacey", "made in Kalamazoo, NOT Nashville". |
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Location: south east Michigan | At the recent Martin event I attended someone asked about what the availability of guitar woods might look like 10 years from now. They said the next problem might be with mahogany. The do not foresee an issue with the popular types of spruce tops in the next 15 to 20 years.
Their new D-1 series features an laminated neck.
Oh... and don't think I've ever heard as many stove-knitter questions asked in one place.
I know that I've drifted into that territory at times but I catch myself before I get in to deep.
I so wanted to use Temp's phrase... "talking about tone is like dancing about architecture.", but didn't get the chance. |
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| Our illegal Rosewood still sounds better than plastic |
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Location: Vernon CT | Originally posted by joesurf:
Our illegal Rosewood still sounds better than plastic Your Rosewood? A woodbox snob is amoungst us
Lycrachord lovers! :p |
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Location: East Tennessee | I was at the factory a couple of weeks ago. Our tour guide,(former plant manager), was asked about Brazilian Rosewood. He said it was available at an additional cost of about $25000.
The tour was great a little rushed and the museum was also nice.
Spent some time in the high end room.
D-18 Authentic
HD-28VS
Brad, The Stratabond neck is supposed to be stronger and more stable than a solid wood neck. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by joesurf:
Is there anybody on your forum under the age of 70? Yepper, but their IQs matches their age! :p |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by joesurf:
Is there anybody on your forum under the age of 70? Curious Question. I'm with iffy on this one. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Our illegal Rosewood still sounds better than plastic OOPS, there's another one! |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Then go play your illegal rosewood while we old farts of discerning taste play our superior plastic guitars. :p |
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| I'll put our chinese Masterbilt Eppi's up against anything in your line in a blindfold test, we'd win everytime. Don't even mention our J's, Songwriters, or Birds in the same breath as your plastic. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | That's funny. I just did a restring on a Songwriter's here in my shop. When the guy who owns it played my Adamas he decided to sell the Gibson and buy an Adamas. Smart fellow and a very good musician by the way. Not only that but he actually has a life so he doesn't need to go trolling on the internet for his kicks. |
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| I wonder if Ovations plastic buckets are made with illegal Iranian oil? Someone should check. |
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Location: East Tennessee | "Click" |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Hey Joe,
In all sincerity, if you can arrange to participate in a 'local' Ovation jam (check here often for places and times), let's do a heads up comparison with your obvious favorites. I'm/we are always open to expand my/our appreciation of the guitar genre.
Otherwise, we follow the OFC (Ovation For Consumption) rule of 'NO FEEDING OF THE TROLLS'. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Notice how trolls NEVER list a location.
I guess under the bridge below the billy goats is too clever for them to think of. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by joesurf:
I'll put our chinese Masterbilt Eppi's up against anything in your line in a blindfold test, we'd win everytime. Don't even mention our J's, Songwriters, or Birds in the same breath as your plastic. Hey Tom (or is it Bert or Bill?), it's been done several times. Here's one of them:
Blind test |
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Federal agents raid Gibson Guitars