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Location: Vernon CT | Ok, as fans of Ovation guitar we always talk about how great these guitars are and how much we love them. To you, personally, do you have one that just doesn't "do it for you"?
So far for me it's the T. I just don't get why most say it's the best bang for the buck. I've played a couple and was not impressed. Ok, let the fun begin..... |
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Location: GA USA | Yes, I realize what an idiot I am for saying this, but I'm not particularly drawn to:
Center holes, 12 fretters, 12 strings, natural tops, deep bowls, slotheads. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Why dwell on the negtative? Just my 2 cents but this is gonna lead to very polarized opinions and probably hurt feelings.
Suggestion, let's change the question to "What Can Marketing Do To Improve Ovations Reputation" |
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Location: Vernon CT | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Why dwell on the negtative? Just my 2 cents but this is gonna lead to very polarized opinions and probably hurt feelings.
Suggestion, let's change the question to "What Can Marketing Do To Improve Ovations Reputation" Dave ,I see what you mean. My intention is NOT to "dwell on the negative", just to see what model is not one's "favorite". The T does not speak to me. It obviously speaks to many others. I think/hope we can take the question in the proper context and not get negative about it.
Of course............. ;) :) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Hey, my answer is easy ...
... Any ovation model that I don't own. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by BT717:
Ok, as fans of Ovation guitar we always talk about how great these guitars are and how much we love them. To you, personally, do you have one that just doesn't "do it for you"?
So far for me it's the T. I just don't get why most say it's the best bang for the buck. I've played a couple and was not impressed. Ok, let the fun begin..... Originally posted by BT717:
Dave ,I see what you mean. My intention is NOT to "dwell on the negative", just to see what model is not one's "favorite". The T does not speak to me. It obviously speaks to many others. I think/hope we can take the question in the proper context and not get negative about it.
Of course............. ;) :) Well, let's see...
there's 1 "doesn't", 1 "don't", 5 "not"s and 2 "negatives"s right there. Good start. |
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Location: GA USA | I didn't see this as negative, but a "what's your opinion" question. The kind you ask of a member/friend in person, if that were possible.
And it doesn't mean you don't like the guitar that doesn't "do it" for you. I like the Utes I've played, but a 12 fretter isn't really my cup of tea. I'm glad to have played them though. They are beautiful guitars. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by BT717:
So far for me it's the T. I just don't get why most say it's the best bang for the buck. I've played a couple and was not impressed. This is one of the reasons why you can get a T at a good price. More for Me! :D
Unfortunately (there is ALWAYS that), with the marketing push for the TX more people have discovered that the Original is the Best.
But I kinda like it when people don't like T's.
I also kinda like it when people don't like Ovations for the same reason! |
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Location: Vernon CT | Originally posted by Captain Lovehandles:
[QB] I didn't see this as negative, but a "what's your opinion" question. The kind you ask of a member/friend in person, if that were possible.
Thanks for putting my thoughts in word others can understand. You hit it exactly! :) |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | "What Can Marketing Do To Improve Ovations Reputation"
That won't start a fire??? |
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Location: Utah | The ones that don't do it for me are the ones I can't afford to buy!
Were I ordering a custom Ovation or Adamas, things I would not order are a slot head, broccoli, or a carved bridge. I have never played an official original deep bowl, but I think I would not want a shiny deep bowl just because it would be slipping around all the time. The super shallow bowls don't do it for me acoustically.
I'm easy to please, and there are a lot of Ovations and Adamas that really appeal to me for their sound or their aesthetics. I'm always getting GAS. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Okay, I'll strike that match.
I suggest that Ovation hire me to work Michigan and connecting states.
Cliff (who would be drawn out of retirement with a Steinbrener size contract) gets the job in the Jersey.
Dave gets the Southwest east of the Rockies
Moody get Cali.
Wabbit gets the North West
Mark gets the Central West east of the Rockies
Lot of competition down there but Florida goes to G8er.
The list can go on but I'll leave it at that. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | With that crew I wouldn't want to be in HR. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Oh... and Trader Jim will run the central warehouse out of Tennesse.
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Aussie James can handle the whole western Pacific Rim on his own. |
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Location: Michigan | Originally posted by Captain Lovehandles:
Yes, I realize what an idiot I am for saying this, but I'm not particularly drawn to:
Center holes, 12 fretters, 12 strings, natural tops, deep bowls, slotheads. All my guitars? :)
For me the:
1. idea
2. Ultras
3. Celbrety(or applause, I cant remember) parlors really had a sound I did not like.
4. Most Martins(do they count)I have played. Of course they are the newer ones. Oh wait this about ovations.
Hey Brad, did HB string you up last night? |
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Location: Miami | LOL. Hey, T lover here, and no offense taken! How many times do I always disclaim my passion for T's with "depending on your playing style and taste"? The reason I love the T is its wooden boomy bass (I like to call it the Adamas Lite) and the texture. And +1 on OMA: I like that people don't like them or Ovations in general!
But the question was what O's don't do it for us. Here's mine (and it's not so much model as it is specs):
- Center hole (too hooked on the side hole aesthetic)
- Celebrities (some are great lookalikes, but definitely not soundalikes or playalikes)
- Contour Bowl (love it sitting, hate it standing)
- Glossy Tops (they sound "tubular" to me, especially strummed hard, standing up)
- non-cutaways (need the high access, and don't like the look as much as a cutaway)
- 12 fretters (need the high access)
- 12 strings (I enjoy playing a 12'er for about 5 minutes. A 6'er for about 5 hours.)
- brown or white as the predominant color don't do it for me
So pretty much any model that has the above won't do it for me. Now, to show I'm a good sport, here's what I DON'T like about my beloved T:
- people love the industrial look. I don't. Luckily I have the Sweet T prototype so at least I get some eye candy on a textured T
- The black is stealth - TOO stealth for my taste! I LIKE my git to stand out;
- The lusty red - well, maybe stealth is not so bad! I have a love/hate relationship with lusty. There are days when I look at her and think, why? There are other days where I look at her and think, wow! (btw, I've never gotten more compliments on a git's looks than the lusty red T).
But in the end it's about tone, and the Adamas Lite (the textured T) more than does it for me. So there you have it. The O's that don't do it for me, and even some things of my favorite git that don't do it for me. |
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Location: south east Michigan |
Hey Brad, did HB string you up last night? [/QB] check out the other thread. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | I have discovered that I'm not crazy about the "manly necks" (what a surprise). I AM tall, but my fingers are not very long. The 12 fret thing can be a real pain, not only because you can't reach the high notes, but because when you normally go to, say the seventh fret, I at least, will sometimes overshoot. It probably comes from playing at home all morning on a thin necked cutaway, then I come down here and switch guitars.
The other thing that really surprised me was the "07C. After all the great things people here have said about it, I was disappointed to find that the tone was "nasal-y" to my ear. I got the 2077LX at about the same time and that could've had something to do with it. That guitar sounds so clear and bell-like, there was no comparison. The '07C went up on the wall pretty much right away. The guy who bought it lives across the street from the shop and we jam together daily so I still get to play it. It is a great guitar, don't get me wrong, but just not for me. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Okay, I'll strike that match.
I suggest that Ovation hire me to work Michigan and connecting states.
Cliff (who would be drawn out of retirement with a Steinbrener size contract) gets the job in the Jersey.
Dave gets the Southwest east of the Rockies
Moody get Cali.
Wabbit gets the North West
Mark gets the Central West east of the Rockies
Lot of competition down there but Florida goes to G8er.
I'll volunteer to take the East/Southeast and I can start immediately!
I have hardly met an Ovation instrument that I did not like...I just like some more than others... |
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Location: New Hampshire, USA | Definitely biased due to owning an early Breadwinner, but the BW Limited just doesn't look right to me. It looks...incomplete.
And IMO, the Heroin Diaries model is butt-ugly.
You asked! |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Y'all gotta admit... the Breadwinners & Deacons are an acquired taste.
I never acquired it! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Opinions are like guitars.
The more you have, the more likely someone might agree with you.
I love the Deacon shape and feel.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Electrics. I just don't play them.
SSBs. I don't plug in, so they just don't have enough bottom. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
The other thing that really surprised me was the "07C. After all the great things people here have said about it, I was disappointed to find that the tone was "nasal-y" to my ear. I got the 2077LX at about the same time and that could've had something to do with it. That guitar sounds so clear and bell-like, there was no comparison. That surprises me a little bit. My '07C has a nice full and bright sound, not at all nasal-y. The 2080 has better note separation but is slightly muted sounding compared to the '07C. Especially with a thick pick the 2080 is quite a bit more mellow than the '07C and not as loud.
Then again, my ears are old and abused so who knows how these guitars sound to everyone else. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | That's the thing about guitars. The same model of even Ovations can sound different. I had two of the 2077LX's at the same time, and while they both sounded great, one of them was better, not just to my ear, but all of my regulars thought so. (That was the one I kept and I will NEVER sell it.) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Forgot to mention the Folklore Deluxe. It's fine, but I don't like it as much as the Folklore. |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | The only dislike I have is the "v"-shaped necks--and the bias isn't related to the guitar's sound or particulars as much as my comfort levels. Don't mind broccoli, slot-heads, 12 or 14 frets, innie-eppies, outie-eppies, most of the colors (except that horrible green parlor one), enjoy all the bowl sizes--but that particular neck shape has caused me more grief lately than the shoulder issues.
The good side to that is, I won't be trying to outbid any of you if a guitar has that particular neck configuration.
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Any non-electric. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | schedule a tour of the factory for the OFC |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Scalloped-X braced guitars like the LX series guitars. Played and own(ed) different ones, from Customs to Collector's, didn't and don't like them.
Other than the bracing the LX features are fine and appreciated.
Wouldn't buy any Korean guitar, but no cause in bad sound here. Played some Celebs, that sounded quite good. Love the skunk stripe - and the other "only american" features - like the knowing it was made there.
Wouldn't buy a T, cause they're ugly.
Wouldn't buy a standard - because of the missing skunk stripe.
And since there is no new A-braced Ovation, that I don't have already - I am done. And that's a good feeling, for sure!
Best regards,
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Ah Kurt, if you could hear and play the 2077LX I bought from BT717 you might change your mind about LX bracing. As I've mentioned in several other posts, that guitar has a sound like no other. I've had it side by side with an identical guitar, and this one is just pure magic. It's just as well you live in Germany because if you ever made it to the Black Hills and played that guitar your GAS would be revived! |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Good to hear for you!
Too bad my 2077LX sounded not half as GAS attacking as yours must sound, cause I loved the looks of a white Legend - and then I would have never given her away!
Best regards,
Kurt |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Ooh that's pretty. Too bad it didn't have the sound you were looking for, but isn't it nice that we have so many models to choose from? I have an old A braced Legend that I love too. When people ask me why I have so many guitars I tell them it's because there are so many songs. One guitar sounds better than the others on THIS song, but that other guitar sounds better on THAT song. And if I feel like playing this OTHER song, I have to use that guitar over there... |
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Location: Munich, Germany | A very good excuse... So, one guitar for every song.
Wait, then... Maybe I have to buy some more guitars after all.
By the way, I have been there... About fifteen, twenty years ago. I still have a shirt from the local Harley dealer in Rapid City. Very nice, the black hills. Travelled there from Minneapolis, through the Badlands...
Best regards,
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Location: east coast usa |  ok heres my 
the only Os i dont care for are the ones that dont say MADE IN U.S.A on the label. Other than that if i could afford it i have each model hangin in a room next to its sister.  |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | ***warning*** sacrilegious content ahead!
The only Ovation that's been through my hands that didn't appeal to me was ... the book elite. Why?
- it was too heavy
- I really don't like the abalone trim on the headstock and
- the sound didn't blow me away like I expected it to.
Maybe the timing wasn't right... maybe we'll meet again someday and fall in love. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Preacher..
For some reason the scale, the pickups, just never did it for me. I have a Preacher with a Viper pickups and that works... but the original package just didn't do it for me. |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | ...shark fins and eppaulettes.... the boat don't float. :rolleyes: |
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Ovations that DON'T do it for you: