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Location: Yalova/Turkey | I am so happy I am back to a 12 string guitar (had one when I was 15 or so). It sounds much richer, gives a much better sound to most songs I like to sing...
I find it not much harder to pick than a 6 string guitar, maybe owing to the wider neck. And another, maybe minor point, but important for me: A couple of strings fretted the same time don´t seem to hurt the tips of my fingers as much as single string seem to do... The first time I can play for hours without having to stop for hurt.
Well, who has similar experiences and wants to praise the 12 string guitar? I´d be happy about contributions from other enthusiasts...
BTW: Mine is a Ovation CSE-445 RB (maybe sold only outside the USA)
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Chris from Yalova:
BTW: Mine is a Ovation CSE-445 RB (maybe sold only outside the USA) 
I'm guessing that it would be like a 12-String CSE44.
And no, I don't think that they let us Americans get this one.
I had to get this pic from a European website.
But it sure is a Purdy One! |
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Location: Vernon CT | Originally posted by dweezil:
I love mine too
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | None of y'all's look like Mine! :eek:
There are one or two lucky OFC's who have these, but not many! :p :cool: |
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | @ Old Man Arthur:
Yeah, that is the one :) I prefered it to a lot of others like the 2058 TX-5 and the 2758 AX-NEB, and I still keep on wondering why it sounded so much better... |
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | In reality the colours of the Ovation CSE 445 RB look a bit more dark....
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | BTW, if some of you would like to listen to a piece of a Neil Young cover (but still with the 6-string) visit me: http://ovationfanclub.ning.com/profile/ChristopherKubaseck
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Chris from Yalova:
I prefered it to a lot of others like the 2058 TX-5 and the 2758 AX-NEB, and I still keep on wondering why it sounded so much better... The USA 2058T has 'Quintad' bracing, which is similar to 'A' bracing.
The TX and the AX have 'Scalloped X' bracing, which is nice... But different.
Your CSE-445 also has Quintad bracing.
I still stand by the old Quintad bracing on Elites.
My 6778LX is an LX, but the original old Elites were designed around the old bracing pattern.
Oh, and you sing better than me... and play the harp better also. |
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | So this is the answer...
Glad I trusted my ears...
Thank you, Old Man Arthur! The USA 2058T has 'Quintad' bracing, which is similar to 'A' bracing.
The TX and the AX have 'Scalloped X' bracing, which is nice... But different.
Your CSE-445 also has Quintad bracing.
I still stand by the old Quintad bracing on Elites.
My 6778LX is an LX, but the original old Elites were designed around the old bracing pattern.
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Location: Vernon CT | Feel free to critizise, I know I have to work a lot still... :) [/QB]
Chris, Why critizise you?? You're doing it! More then most of us can say! :) |
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Location: SoCal | Yes, praise the 12-string!
I thank Al every time I pick up my UTE-12!
John, Kim, Kevin... you guys outdid yourselves.
Tony's Newport 12 has been with me since January.
I'm seriously thinking about applying for another year with her.
I have not touched my Deacon-12 since the Newport 12 moved in.
All for the better, the Deacon still looks brand new.
 
We can't forget the EA58 Vipers!
I play my -7(nutmeg).
This black one is saving herself for a future suitor... damn, will one of you buy her?
Gone, but not forgotten, is Derby's Q598.
This was a great player that Tony and I tried to keep in the family.
We lost touch with the guitar and with Derby.
My wish is that the sun is shining for Derby right now.
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | Wow, those are beauties... have a lot of fun with them, Noah :) |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | Gotta love the 12 string O. They just ring out, and are easier to play than any other 12'ver.
My 1995 Balladeer 1751 rescued from ebay.
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Location: SoCal | Chris, I'm with Old Man Arthur, you sing better than me... and play the harp better also. Plus you have the balls to share your music with others. In my book, you are way ahead of many of us. Thank you for sharing.
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Location: SoCal | OMA, Seeing your E-T12, makes me want to remove epi's. Maybe I'm just too old and/or been looking at epi's for too many years. I like the look of your E-T12! |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | My primary 12 is a custom EA-58 Viper in an orange flamed maple to match the EA-68 of the same color.
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Location: SoCal | Someday I hope to get a nice 12 string. Mine's just a plastic guitar with a cheap blue top on it.... |
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A true cannon.
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Location: Utica, NY | I'll join the choir here. Since I returned to acoustic ownership a few months ago there has not been one that I have either enjoyed playing or hearing more(or made more real progress on) than my current 1866. I am picking it up daily and that's just never happened. It's become as easy to play for me as a regular sixer and just sounds great. |
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Location: New Hampsha | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I also have a nice Hurricane . . .
[ OOOH! I like that Hurricane.
(Looks familiar ;) ) The greatest looking guitar that I couldn't play... |
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Location: New Hampsha | forgot to add - I LOVE my 1598 RG:
And I can't wait for my 12-string Parlor... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | a 12-string Parlor......now THAT'S gonna be interesting. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Yeah, I like 12's a little bit:
Mikey\'s 12 String Roundup
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Location: Right now? | GASP. My goodness. Y'all are showoffs, haha, so allow me to show off, also. Here's one of mine, acquired from MM:
This was a good, fun, post! Show us your 12'ers, everybody!
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Location: Right now? | Mitz, my Adamas MERB 1598 is one of THE nicest, most beautiful guitars I have ever played, heard or seen. As Iffy would say, DAY-UM!
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Location: New Hampsha | The biggest problem I have with playing the 1598 is that I have to stop every once in a while to pull my sox back up.
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Location: Corning, NY | Here's mine...
Rebuilt Legend 1756
It's in the For Sale forum for a limited time, if I'm foolish enough to sell it. |
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Location: Milford, MI | I was going to post a couple pics of my 1866 (that is going to Mother as soon as I get off my butt and ship her) but I think I am a little out classed. You have some beautiful guitars out there. |
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Location: Nashville, TN | Wow!! Some real beauts out here...Noah..I'm still wanting that black Viper 12 of yours..you're gonna have to drop it down a few Grand!!:-)
Professor..Absolutely digging the Orange Viper EA twins..those are KNOCKED OUT! I have an orange 6 string, but that 12 is.....Wow!!
here are my Viper 12 sisters...only vintage sunburst 12 I've ever seen...& your standard natural 12...but I play her the most of the 2...
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Location: Upper Left USA | Mr. Golf and Son shredding a couple of Woody's.
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Location: Milford, MI | See! I just got blown away again! More awesome 12's. UGH! I will catch up. I promise. |
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | One of my 12'ers.
http://ovationfanclub.ning.com/photo/photo/show?id=2194223%3APhoto%...
Willa, for a 1158 or 1658 I'm looking for. Very nice guitar. But in Germany very, very rare.
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | stephen,
I used to want a 6/12 soooo bad until I learned that I have trouble with just one. But that one sure does stoke the embers.
I'm surprised it hasn't been adopted. Lovely git! |
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Location: Central Oregon | That's a lot of different 12 string O's but I didn't see any 1858's. My 1858 (in a messy backyard) looks a lot like the overseas model.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Here's one that was just born today.
Ok, actually assembled and playable today. And to it's Left is a Keller Original-ish. |
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One of the knob selections is "Wild"...one of the 1966 Italian made Welson guitars. |
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | @ Nils:
The Celebrity CSE 445 RB sure looks like a 1858 copy :)
But without AA grade spruce top, and ebony... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Nils,
I see you have the parts ready, when are you going to put the Bass' together?
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Location: Michigan | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Sounded great. A bit more sustain than a regular hole model (if that's possible). Unfortunately this photo was only the tip of ice berg. Not shown were 2 more GC models, 4 Adamas 12 strings and 3 Hurricanes. How many 12 strings can one man play? So most have been sold off. All that remains is the U681-12 (the best adamas 12 of the lot), a hurricane and an A braced rebuilt 1115. I think Bobbo might have the small hole 12 from the photo above. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Dan, that sunburst Viper is the only one I've ever seen. Really cool. I'm not sure if the EA Vipers are still in production, and if not, I don't know if the factory will still make custom orders of this model. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I'm not sure if the EA Vipers are still in production, and if not, I don't know if the factory will still make custom orders of this model. Dan, our babies are now on the discontinued list. I don't find the 12's anywhere on the Ovation site. My black 12 is only twice what you usually pay for the 6's and probably 1/2 of what a custom order would have cost. Maybe we should explore trading vipers. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I think Bobbo might have the small hole 12 from the photo above. Nope. Mine had the winged bridge ... and the top was more evenly colored (but that is some good looking striping!). Mine has moved onto a new home as part of an incredible collection. But only because I had an Ovation 12 that is a killer guitar. He is a picture of it (and Moody's wristwatch):
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Location: Michigan | music mike what kind of car is that in the background??? a citrogen :confused: GWB |
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Bob - even blurry Abalone looks good! |
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Location: Tennessee | "Why do the British drink warm beer?"
"Lucas makes their refrigerators".
Woodster ... ain't it amazing how Moody's thumbnail can be in perfect focus, but the treble side binding is not? Damn iPhone. |
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Location: Utica, NY | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Great thumbnail, tho'.... Ahhh, so THAT'S what a 'thumbnail' image is.... |
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Location: Central Oregon | Originally posted by Chris from Yalova:
@ Nils:
The Celebrity CSE 445 RB sure looks like a 1858 copy :)
But without AA grade spruce top, and ebony... I originally bought a Celebrity that looked nearly identical to the 1858. The only obvious difference was the bridge end of the fingerboard wasn't nearly as pointed, it just had a slight curve. I'll see if I can find a picture of it.. 
Looked good, played lousey.
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Location: Central Oregon | Thanks bobbo.
Come to think of it, that was the guitar that led me to the OFC many moons ago. I guess it was good for something after all. I got my money back out of it & the guy that bought it just loved it. It was ok for cowboy chords. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | music mike what kind of car is that in the background? That would be a 1974 MGB-GT...it's the parts car (throw a motor/trans/radiator in it and drive it away)...
The other car is in the garage (actually both now are for the winter): a 1970 MGB-GT split rear bumper, RARE! Everything there: needs interior and paint...
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Location: Dubai | WOW what beauties you lot have! I was about to buy a 1868T SSB but am 99.99% converted to getting a 6758T, i havent played in years but now the kids are growing up i have a calling...but i have to admit part of me says 'yo dude..you aint earnt the right to a 12 string yet!' what do you guys say? Help!! if i had loads of money i'd buy 2..3..4..5..ouch!! please can someone save me from myself :) |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by edouin the bedouin:
Help!! if i had loads of money i'd buy 2..3..4..5..ouch!! please can someone save me from myself :) Here? You've GOT to be kidding ... all we can help you do is learn to look in the mirror and say "You are special ... and you really do deserve another guitar". |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by edouin the bedouin:
please can someone save me from myself 
 
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by edouin the bedouin:
'yo dude..you aint earnt the right to a 12 string yet!' :) If you need a good 6 string or you don't have a 6 string then that would definitely be my first priority. If you have a good 6 stringer then definitely treat yourself to a 12! |
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Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | All you folks have much prettier 12s than mine..   "> |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Cc:
Sorry.. cc,
Here ya go... a bit large, but so is the mojo...
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Location: Michigan | heres a nice sounding one... GWB
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Location: Texas | I don't know how long this will remain online, but here's one guy who's widely recognized as one of the most influential electric 12-string players… It's a nice recent interview with
Roger McGuinn
discussing and demonstrating the "Byrds sound." He talks about creating the sound back then with 12-string Rickenbackers, but he demonstrates on his signature 7-string Martin, which he calls "The Best of both 6 & 12 strings."
If someone was so inclined, I guess you could test the concept by temporarily removing 5 strings from one of your 12'ers, but the spacing might be a little odd. Mine are keeping all 12…
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Location: Florida | I've not been active here for a L-o-n-g time, but this topic is close to my heart. Some beautiful guitars here!
I love 12s, starting with an Epiphone I bought in 1972, no longer playable without a neck reset some day. Here is part of the family group:
From left, 1967 Gibson ES 335-12, 1967 Guild Starfire XII, 2004 PRS Custom 22/12, 1998 Adamas 1598, 1968 Ovation Hurricane 12. Each has its own charms, all are played and maintained regularly. String-changing day in my house is an event! :eek:
For acoustic, the Adamas cannot be beat, and works well with Florida humidity. Of the electrics, the PRS is utterly amazing, perfect neck and tones like an orchestra.
The Gibson has terrific sound but a skinny 1 5/8" neck, what were they thinking? The Starfire is a cannon, and weighs a ton, best played sitting down. The Hurricane is light, with good action and more of the classic jangly sound. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Barry,
I would call those the 'Sweet 60'!
That Gibby sure rekindles some old ol' fond memories. A friend of mine had one and at the time it 'fit' me well.
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Location: Texas | Speaking of The Byrds, and 12 strings, and Ovations of course, check this out:
Wasn\'t Born To Follow
He does a couple more Ovation/Byrds songs Here along with lots of Ric versions and links to old Byrds videos…
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Praise for the 12 string guitar