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Location: Wiesbaden | Walter Carney/his mother.. (curiocanteen on E-bay) will be re-listing the guitar tomorrow at 8:15 PST. as was stated in the previous threads, it would be placed back up for auction in January.
Mr. Carney will also be placing a very large collection of Ovation/Kaman aeronautics/Adamas/Applause, etc... literature and ephemera up on the bay in a separate auction which is scheduled to begin prior to the guitar auction.
He has already sent copies and scans of all of the documents and brochures to Jerome.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Please post the links for both auctions when they become available.
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Location: Paris/France | Walter told me that the guitar was not sent back to the factory so the headstock is broken as on the first listing in November.
The documents are the rare 4 info sheets from 1966/67 with some bonus... ;) (THESE DOCS!!)
Very interesting documents, one is personally signed by Josh White and the other signed by some employees from this era.
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Location: Flahdaw | Nevermind, it is the same guitar.
(How does someone in Weisbaden Germany get involved in the sale of a Florida guitar?) |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by dark bar:
How does someone in Weisbaden Germany get involved in the sale of a Florida guitar? Large 'family', small world! |
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Location: Germany | Wiesbaden is a major US army military base in Germany. Maybe this is the link.
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Location: Paris/France | The Balladeer #22 is HERE.
And the docs are HERE.
Good luck !!!
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Location: Huntington Beach | That was a good investment. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ephemera? Now THAT's a word you don't hear too often. In fact, one of our astute readers pointed out to me that in the history of the OFC, the word "ephemera" was only been used in one other post ...
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/cgi-bin/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=ge...
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4 guitar models and 3 cases to choose from.
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | I'm not sure who ended up with #022, but the Ovation ephemera ended up in the group. :) I can't decide if I'm more excited about the Josh White signature or the signatures of the factory workers. These could be some of the folks that built my 1111. How cool is that! |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I know who got it... but I'll let He/She announce it ;) |
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Location: Paris/France | Hi,
As promised in November in the first topic about this unique guitar, I was at 4.45am in front of my computer trying to win this Old Lady.
I'm very very happy to announce that I won and that this one will stay in the Family.
She will be tomorrow on the way to New Hartford for some works as changing the tuners for original Kluson, fixing the broken headstock and maybe a neck reset if needed.
I'd sincerely like to thank John.B at the Factory for his prompt and kind reply on Monday morning saying that he will be glad to welcome this guitar for doing the works.
I know one or two good Luthiers for guitars in Paris but I'm sure that none are better than the Ovation guys!!
Thanks also to Walt the seller whom was kind enough to let me bid and to Glenn for the nice pics and the review done in November.
Another big thank you to the OFC member that I beat on this auction whom was here as a security net just in case if I couldn't be in time for the auction.
Finally, thank you Tony!! You and I know why ... ;)
My words sounds a bit like an acceptance speech for an official ceremony but I'm sincere.
To own such a guitar is like an award to my eyes.
I'm the happiest guy on earth tonight and be sure that I'll give you news from this guitar in the future!!
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I can't think of a more appropriate owner!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Congratulations Jerome !!!
There is no better home for this guitar than in your collection. As you said I was only there as a safety net in case something fell through. Yesterday wasn't such a bad day for me either.
You are encouraging me that I MUST come to visit you soon and surround myself with all your wonderful and historical guitars (and say hello to my old blue friend).
Congratulations again,
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Fantastic Jérôme! Hopefully they'll turn it around quickly and it will have a safe journey to it's new home.
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Location: Cicero, NY | Congratulations, Jérôme! Couldn't be happier for you! |
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Location: Right now? | Yahhh! Congratulations, Jerome! I look forward to seeing her after the repairs.
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Location: Right now? | Yahhh! Congratulations, Jerome! I look forward to seeing her after the repairs.
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Location: south east Michigan | This is great news Jerome.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Very Good For You |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Excellent work buddy.
When you finally get it, it will be one to treasure. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Congrats Jerome! Great news!! |
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Location: in the land of enchantment | Congrats Jérôme...I, too, am looking forward to pics after it's spa treatment at the MS.
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Location: Germany | Congratualtions Jerome! I'm so happy that YOU got it.
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Location: Tennessee | Wonderful news! I think #22 wound up exactly where it belongs. It is a treasure indeed. |
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | WoW Jerome !!! Well done my friend. I was far from any computers for few days and at my return I discovered you got this super baby. I join the happyness of the other members and add my sincere congratulations. I'm so glad this guitar will stay in the family and will shine in your collection. You treasure it for sure !!
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | Nick Congrats also to you for putting together a so nice collection of Ovation memorabilia (Is you that recently got other Os stuff from Samova, right ?).
I'm sure you will enjoy them all.
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Thank you very much Riccardo. The '66 ephemera showed up in the mail today and all of the pages are pristine, including the brochure with Josh White's signature. I don't think these pages have seen the light of day since they were signed 44 years ago.
Yesterday I received the material I purchased from Sam's collection. I'm amazed at all that Sam has accumulated and can't help but wonder how and where he obtained it all. What are your secrets Sam? It will take me hours to sort through all of this and then comes the task of organizing everything for display. Of course, out here in the middle of the Texas Plains, I'm not sure who I'll be showing it to. :)
"Hey you cows, wanna come look at this Ovation ephemera?"
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Nick B.:
"Hey you cows, wanna come look at this Ovation ephemera?" "Yooo bet! Mooov over..."
Nick, what's your 'game plan' on a display? Fantastic memorabilia! |
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Location: Paris/France | The guitar is well arrived yesterday at the Factory and John told me that she looks nice!!
She should be soon repaired and shipped to France in a brand new case for being more protected during the transport.
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Jérôme, that's fantastic news. I hope they turn it around quickly for you. We're all anxious to see it up on your site after the repairs are made. |
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Hi Jerome,
that are wonderful news.
That must be a dream to own one of these old beauties. Enjoy it!!!
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Location: Germany | Jerome, what´s going to happen with the original case? I´m looking for one of those for a long time.
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Location: Paris/France | Karl,
Feel free to ask to John if he can send the old original case to Germany.
If it's possible, this one is for you. ;)
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Location: Germany | Done! My rebuilt shiny bowls will get an original case. Thanks Jerome and John for your kindness.
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Location: Paris/France | That's also why I love O's and the OFC. ;)
I'm very happy for you Karl!!
I hope that John will not forget to send you only the case without the #22... : :eek: :D
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Last Saturday I received a letter from Mrs. Viola Carney, who was the owner of the Balladeer and ephemera mentioned in this thread. Mrs. Carney was an Ovation factory worker in 1966. In her letter she talks about buying coffee for Josh White and some of her other experiences at the factory, which at the time was in the old Fuller Brush building.
I don’t know about you guys (and gals), but I think this letter is pretty neat and I just had to share it with you. Think about it, this very dear lady may have sanded the top of your shiny bowl Balladeer or glued the binding on your Josh White model. How cool is that?
Thank you Viola, and God bless you too.
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Location: Texas | Wow Nick, that is just amazing! Thanks for sharing that. She probably would be shocked to discover that she is now a celebrity herself, at least here on the OFC. You're right, she may have personally worked on many of our favorite guitars!
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Absolutely wonderful letter. Thank you Mrs. Carney and Thank you Nick for posting it here for all to share. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | "Charlie Kaman came in frequently as that was his pet project. He even brought his young son in to visit."
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "Charlie Kaman came in frequently as that was his pet project. He even brought his young son in to visit."
Too bad the little guy hadn't caught the guitar bug...didn't he turn out to be a gas station attendant when he grew up?
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Location: Upper Left USA | That is a treasure!
Am I the only one that finds it encouraging that you can enjoy the chemicals that you work with and still live to be 88 years old despite it?
Al - She would be a prime candidate for an interview for the BOOK! |
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Thanks everyone, I'm glad you enjoyed it too.
Originally posted by MWoody:
Am I the only one that finds it encouraging that you can enjoy the chemicals that you work with and still live to be 88 years old despite it? I had the same thought. And based on her note, I'd say she's no worse for the wear. Funny stuff. |
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Location: Germany | Now my Dlx Balladeer has an original home. Nothing to go on tour but a very nice vintage case. Thanks Jerome and John for your kindness!
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Location: Paris/France | Karl,
I'm very happy that the case is well arrived.
You now owns one of the oldest Ovation case known and it fits perfectly to your guitar!!! ;)
At this time, the Balladeer #22 should be on the way to France after a short stop at the Factory for some very small works.
It's a long trip and I cross my fingers to get it safe.
I hope to get it before two weeks and if she's there before 20 March, one of the very first to play it will be a well known "ugly English". :D :D :D
John told me that it's a great sounding guitar and you can imagine how I'm impatient to get it.
To complete the story, here are 2 docs that Walt was kind enough to send me after the sale.
I really love these docs because they are from the very very early days and this guitar was one of the first to leave the Bloomfield's Factory.
It was 44 years ago and I was not born yet... ;)
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Location: Paris/France | I'll have to pay 23% for taxes and fees to the customs services when she will be arrived in France.
And not on the original price from 1966... :eek: :D
But this guitar deserves some efforts. ;)
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