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Location: Michigan | :D Dental Floss to Joes Garage to Dirty Love what went through this guys mind to make the widest aray of musical songs that he did.
I dont know if I think he is a great writer/musician/artist or just someone who got lucky at a time when we wanted someone totaly weird and different.GWB. :eek: |
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Location: ms | He got lucky. |
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Location: Jet City | To each his own.
I was just listening to his "Them or Us" CD this past weekend. Lots o Steve Vai on that one. |
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Location: ms | I do like a lot of his stuff but I do think he got lucky. And being over the top and outspoken never hurts a rock star. |
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Location: Tennessee | He got lucky like Warhol got lucky. |
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Location: Maple Shade, NJ. | Luck?
Look past the weird and listen to him play.
I could go on about Frank and all the great musicians he had thru the years, but like Damon said,....to each his own.
He is one of the reasons I picked up my first guitar. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Frank was a great musician. Kinky, quirky, maybe a little mad, but still great. I agree, a lot of his stuff wasn't even worth listening to, but he did assemble a bunch of very good musicians and compose some very intricate music. |
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Location: ms | Most the guys playing with him were better than him and I never really thought he was that much of a guitar player, good but not at all great. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Of course it's subjective right but I personally think he was he an extremely talented composer, musician, band leader and guitarist.
And yes he liked to surround himself with people that could play his difficult music but also who had a sense of humour.
He is *sadly* missed. |
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Location: ms | Love, hate or like me in the middle somewhere you gotta miss him..... |
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Location: NJ | Frank taught himself how to write orchestral scores. I think that is pretty great on its own merit.
Did you ever really listen to Frank play guitar? seriously. Get some of the shut up and play your guitar series. Frank was a smokin guitar player. His style was very blues based and entrenched in the sixties guitar sound but he did it VERY WELL.
quirky yes
genius ? maybe
crap? hell no |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | GWB...
PLEASE disable your caps lock. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by muzza:
GWB...
PLEASE disable your caps lock. :rolleyes: Ditto....I think we should do a poll on how much this annoys everyone (or not). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by alpep:
Frank taught himself how to write orchestral scores. I think that is pretty great on its own merit.
Did you ever really listen to Frank play guitar? seriously. Get some of the shut up and play your guitar series. Frank was a smokin guitar player. His style was very blues based and entrenched in the sixties guitar sound but he did it VERY WELL.
quirky yes
genius ? maybe
crap? hell no I think this covers it very nicely and with that said....for me...
TOPIC CLOSED! :) |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | He was master guitarist, happily playing fast groups of 5 and 7s, odd meters and could improvise in a truely awe inspiring and creative way. He had a unique tone and style, not just another GIT clone.
Interestingly he never considered himself as guitarist, more a composer that played the guitar. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | FZ was one of the few people I'd call a genius. Not everybody gets a genius, and that's OK. It's not about mass consumption it's about artistic vision.
Zappa was unique, smart, talented, creative, he hired great musicians and put out tons of music. Was all of it great? Not to me, but it was unmistakably Frank Zappa. |
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Location: Maple Shade, NJ. | Just listen to
Montana
The torture never stops
Stevies Spanking
Hey Dweezil, you would'nt be...............nah I guess not. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | No matter what kind of mood I'm in, Frank had something to fit it. His orchestral music is still some of my favorite music in the world, I get a kick out of the Joe's Garage type stuff, his sense of satire and social commentary is (I think) ingenius, and oh, by the way, can you tell I'm a big fan? |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by Fuzzyman:
Just listen to
Montana
The torture never stops
Stevies Spanking
Hey Dweezil, you would'nt be...............nah I guess not. Stevie's spanking is like a grudge match between Vai and Dweezil. Kick but stuff! (And done on Carvin X100B!)
"Its not that he requires grooming! Guys with light blue hair never do!"
Same album I was mentioning above. Great stuff!
Ya Hozna!
Baby Take your Teeth Out
Frogs With Dirty Little Lips
And a KICK BUTT version of Whippin' Post
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Location: Whitecourt, Ab | I personally love his music. In my youth, when he was very popular (underground in Canada) it seemed the more I listened to it the more I enjoyed it, as opposed to bands I got tired of repetitive listening. However I think his role in anti-censorship was as, or more important than his music. |
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Location: NJ | I'm changing strings on 3 guitars w/Sirius streaming on the computer & "Stink-Foot" is playin' right now . . .
". . the crux of the biscuit, is "the apostrophe" . . ." |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | You're using 3 guitars for gigs now? What's the extra one? Nylon string? |
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Location: NJ | 6, 12, & AdamasLongNeck (now sporting the MattSmith BridgeCable & tuned down to B . . . oofah!).
I sometimes use 4, but the Nylon is at the Factory.
Back to the Topic:
I find Zappa t'be Brilliant, but can only take it in small doses . . . after that, he starts t'become superfluous . . .
I wish I was able t'see that show that his son did of his father's music, but I missed out (you caught that, didn't you Al??)
He's a pretty accomplished guitarist, himself.
It's a pity that he acts like a dick . . . |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by cliff:
I sometimes use 4, but the Nylon is at the Factory.
At least my 2 will have company.
As for Zappa ... I've tried to get into him, but I just never "got it". I will give him lots of credit for being different, and making a very good career of it. Not too many artists do that anymore. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by cliff:
I wish I was able t'see that show that his son did of his father's music, but I missed out (you caught that, didn't you Al??)
He's a pretty accomplished guitarist, himself.
It's a pity that he acts like a dick . . . nope missed it but read and heard nothing but rave reviews. I saw some of the stuff on tv late one night or I may have dreamt it ..... |
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| Frank Zappa to me is like The Grateful Dead to cliff. |
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Location: NJ | Why?? . . . do drunken AssWipes in bars call YOU "Frank Zappa"?? . . . |
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| I always listened to Zappa in my younger days just for the funny and shocking lyrics. I did not appreciate his musicianship until more recently. He really was a fantastic guitarist and musician and composer. FWIW.... I wish he took the time to do just one serious album of progressive rock work with some of these guy's he had together back then. His humor and overall quirky view of life (of course) made him what he was "a musical genius" but I also think it got in the way of some amazing potential as well. |
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FRANK ZAPPA HAD THE LARGEST RANGE RANGE OF MUSIC FROM COOL TO S&%T