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Location: NJ | Last Friday Night, I had probably one of th’Best solo gigs I’ve had in recent memory.
Being in the Doldrums of Winter these past few weeks, driving to/from gigs in th’rain, snow, & cold; loading/unloading gear in/out of the car while standing in ankle-deep slush, and playing the same-old-tunes in the same-old-places for the same-old-faces that are just as “sick-of” this Time of Year puts a definitive “crimp” in th’FunFactor of WHY y’even bother t’DO this Sh!t anymore . . .
Granted, getting $200/gig plus an average of $60-80 in th’TipJar for something that you “enjoy” doing isn’t hard t’take, but sometimes driving with a sore back and a headache at 3am in sweat-soaked clothes on a 15-degree night, you find yourself ASKING yourself “WHY th’F@ck are you even DOING this??”
Last Friday’s gig was somewhat different.
The venue itself was quite a nice in that it was a very nice, “up scale” Restaurant/Bar located on the grounds (right ON th’runway, in fact) of a small, local airport. I’d played there once before, but that was the NightAfterChristmas, and was shitty weather, so there wasn’t much of a crowd. This time, the place was PACKED, I had gotten there directly from Work so I had PLENTY of time to casually load-in, set-up the’PA (& four guitars), and do a proper sound-check before my 9:30 start-time.
I’d just come back inside from loading the empties into my car & moving it from th’LoadingZone, when th’FamiliarFaces started to meld-in with the already crowded bar area . . .
Several people from my Office stopped-by for Dinner/Drinks, & t’hang for “th’Show” which is always appreciated.
As more & more people came-in, th’Faces, while STILL “Familiar”, were Ones that I hadn’t “seen” in a L-O-N-G Time, including:
A Friend (and his wife) that I’d know since SECOND GRADE, when he came to his FirstDay in a NewSchool in a NewCountry. Coming from Italy, he didn’t know a WORD of English (we naturally taught him all th’SwearWords, first;-) We were friends & lived in th’Neighbourhood together all thru HighSchool, & then just “LostTouch” (as which UsuallyHappens).
Throughout my HighSchoolYears, I had two other cohorts whom I shared a “ThreeMusketeers”-type relationship. We had found absolutely NO Difficulty getting into Trouble together, and thru Thick/Thin, we ALWAYS faced-it together. I’d recently been able to re-connect with each (separately), but the other two guys hadn’t seen each other in OVER 25 years! They also brought their respective wives, & commandeered a booth together.
Another friend (from post-HighSchoolYears) whom I don’t see very often anymore, as his wife is good friends with my “ex”, so I sadly kinda’ “Lost Him in th’Divorce”.
He came with his two grown sons.
A couple who BOTH lived (in different houses) in the OldNeighbourhood where I grew-up(?). They were both 7-8 years younger than I, and I can remember when they were BOTH the infant siblings of friends that I had. They grew-up, married, and have families near to where we all grew up. I hadn’t seen either in a VERY Long Time!
My ex-BandMate, Rick showed-up to “Case th’Joint” as he was playing a subsequent gig there. He ended staying most of th’Night.
Two of Jeanette’s co-workers (whom I had played their outdoor wedding on CapeCod, LastSummer) showed-up – after driving a LONG distance from SouthJersey . . .
It was QUITE bizarre to be (unexpectly) playing to such a W-I-D-E “Cross-Section” of people in MyLife (especially those I hadn’t seen in such a L-O-N-G Time!).
The Gig went VeryWell, and it was kinda’ hard t’tell who was having more “FUN” . . . Them or Me.
About a week-and-a-half ago, I turned 54.
My friend, Cheryl customarily asks someone having a birthday to impart some “Words of Wisdom”.
When she called me on MyBirthday, I was caught “unprepared”, and asked if I could “get back” to her.
She made it plainly evident that I was by NO MEANS “Off th’Hook” . . .
When I got home from that gig (at 4am) and all of the gear was safely stowed in the garage, I poured a couple fingers of Talisker, and e-mailed her the following “Words of Wisdom” :
ON GIGGING(at”MyAge”) :
“. . On th’DriveHome after a Gig, You spend exactly HALF of th’Time telling yourself “You’re “TooOld” for ThisShit . .
. . you spend the OTHER Half telling yourself THIS is th’Shit that keeps You from getting “TooOld” . . “ |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | No. 54 at 54. Kinda cool. Nice story, too. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I prefer the last line!
Great that you reconnected with ol' friends and broke the 'cabin fever'. Those moments are precious! |
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Location: south east Michigan | nice
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Location: Tennessee | Gotta love it. And it beats the hell out of having all these people you haven't seen in forever showing up for your wake. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Keep it going for a few more years, Cliff. I'm a couple years older and probably will never have the experience, good or bad. I recently saw some pictures someone took of Karl and me playing in a bar in Germany, which was the closest thing I ever had to a gig. I really enjoyed it and didn't realize there were so many people there. Most of them looked like they were having fun, except for one guy who was fast asleep. |
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Location: chicago | Hey Cliff,
All those people showed up,some networking had to have happened to coordinate all that,witch is a whole other part of the gigging process,sometimes a job in itself..no? Jeff |
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Location: chicago | My appologies, its a great story and sometimes just living in the moment is all we need.
As much as I hate to quote Joe Dirt.....
Ya gotta just keep on keepin' on |
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Location: Flahdaw | Nice story, Cliff. Sometime I'd like to see your set list. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | So that's why I sucked so bad last week, I'm 4 years past the prime.......... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Sounds like a great time was had by all, Cliff. That's gotta make it all worthwhile.
(Or at least until you have to load up for the next show anyway) |
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Location: SoCal | Yeah Beal, we were gonna talk with you about that.
Great story Clifford. Ain't it grand to know that in the important things in life, you've never grown up? And are a better person for it.
54??? From the pics I woulda said older...... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Thanks fer sharing ..made me feel all Melancholic , .. turnin` five years older than 54 in a few months , and realizing my Busking days are over , gets me to Remember things ..
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Location: Ontario Canada | I enjoyed your story about last Friday night.
Keep up the good work. It is real nice to re-connect with old buddies. Makes all the effort seem worthwhile doesn't it. The voice and fingers need the therapy Cliff, believe me. Never slow down. A belated congratulations on the 54th birthday.
Jim. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | "A belated congratulations on the 54th birthday."
Absolutely. HFB. |
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Location: Indiana | Thanks Cliff. I hope to meet you someday. |
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Location: big island | extra-cool, cliff. thanks for sharing so many words at once.
(i'll be lookin' at 54 later this year. played a fund raiser gig yesterday, which is the first gig in a long time for me. didn't raise any funds for myself but the cause was worthwhile. i've recently connected with several long-lost friends and family upon finally giving in to the facebook thing.) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Glad you liked the present Cliff.
(I paid those people $3 each to show up) |
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Location: East Tennessee | Congrratulations on your 54th and a real great story.
Nights like that make up for a whole lot of the other ones. |
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Location: Location Location Location | When I was 36, the guy down the street from where I lived on Long Island asked me to sit in for his regular partner. So on Thursday and Friday before his gig, I learned about 40 of the tunes, mostly I IV V stuff. Then we played on Saturday. I had a blast. Now at 59, it's one of my best memories.
I can't imagine how good yours are.
Great story. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Beal:
So that's why I sucked so bad last week, I'm 4 years past the prime.......... as am I. |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Great story Cliff.
I'm 3 years past prime...
Although I had a good gig Friday night too!
The band was tight (as always)...the timing was spot on...And I was in good voice...I did 4 solo songs, two duets, and a gospel duet.
Life Is Good
My bithday was Saturday.
Must have something to do with getting old?....like fine wine or sumthin'.......Naaaaah |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Cool story Cliff.
Look forward to the next time we hang together. |
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Location: NJ | here's to another 54 years of gigs! |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Well I'm a few years past the prime but maybe there is hope.............maybe
Congrats Cliff
AJ |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | At first I thought you'd been giggin' with your "slothead".
Keep it up Cliff! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Thanks for sharing Cliff. It's good to cherish those moments, and hope you have many more. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | When all else fails..................music speaks
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Location: NJ | $3 a-piece, eh, Dave??
No WONDER I was handing-out "refunds" over th'course of th'night & LOST money on th'deal.
Yeah Jeff, "Networking" is whole NUTHER gig on it's own. On THIS particular one, I'd had this decent pic that a local photog-friend had taken from a previous gig, & worked-it-up into an "ad" that went to the venue, my webpage, MySpace, FaceBook, blanket e-mail, etc. THAT was probably th'impetus for such a decent "turn-out".
It was a "nice" place, and was somewhat centrally-located to everyone, so it was a good one to "promote".
Usually, I just don't go thru all th'trouble. Firstly, I don't really like sending people stuff like that & putting them on-th'spot to where they feel "obligated". Secondly, THESE people are all around th'same "Age" that I AM. How many of YOU guys're in the habit of driving a half-hour to a bar somewhere where the "entertainment" starts at 9:30-10:00?? I had a COUPLE of comments that I was STARTING "past Their BedTime . . ."
That's why I generally play a two-hour FirstSet for all of the "Oldsters"(like myself), then it's good-bye hugs&kisses during th'break, and then th'SecondSet to try & keep "th'Kids" there till 2a.m. (That's when th'REAL "Work" starts) . . .
. . . mebbe I AM "TooOld" fer ThisSh!t . . . . |
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Location: Newington, CT | Great story! Here's to many more! |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by cliff:
I had a COUPLE of comments that I was STARTING "past Their BedTime . . ." ... and I'll bet none of 'em fell asleep.
I'd drive further than an half hour to hear ya play again! |
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Location: NJ | . . you live in Florida.
You drive further than a half-hour t'get the MorningPaper . . . |
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Location: Jet City | You're an inspiration Cliff. Keep rockin' dude. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | OK OK OK
Happy Fricking Birthday
Now get yer ass down to Amelia. Got a jar waiting. |
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Location: NJ | Can't.
TooTired . . . |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | S28 gets it then |
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Location: closely held secret | HFTFFBD. |
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Location: Ontario Canada | Thanks Beal for rattlin' my wee brain from a long time ago. With St. Pat's Day coming up. How about this timely dittie.
"The reason I left Mullingar."
http://unitedireland.tripod.com/id91.html
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Location: Ontario Canada | I'm getting forgetful, here is the link to the version I wanted to post. Sorry about that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-UCZzEpNE&feature=related
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Beal:
S28 gets it then YEAH BABY! |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by stephent28:
Originally posted by Beal:
S28 gets it then YEAH BABY! Man. It SUCKS livin' up here in Juneau. |
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Location: NJ | Better'n Wasilla . . . |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | always keep the sage words of wisdom close...
"I'll Sleep When I'm Dead"
Congrats Cliff. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by Beal:
Now get yer ass down to Amelia. Got a jar waiting. Vaseline? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | did you really want to ask that question? |
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Location: Flahdaw | It was there for the taking, and I'm so weak minded. |
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | Good for you. I'm still going at 59 and loving it. Most of the places I play are little upscale restaurants, bistros, cafes and coffee houses, and I travel light with a Roland AC 60 acoustic chorus amp. It works great for what I need. I play a lot of private gigs also - especially in the summer. And Christmas parties. I pick where I want to play, which keeps it fun and interesting.
Still get creaky back and knees, though. :D |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by rick endres:
Still get creaky back and knees, though. :D That's a good point. Do you guys stand or sit when you play? I don't think I could stand and play for hours, I would have to sit....but I sing better when I stand (opens up the lungs or something?) |
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Location: NJ | Stand (Four f@&^%#ng Hours). |
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | I sit and use a folding chair like Neil Young when I have 3 and 4 hour gigs. More comfortable than a stool. I'll stand on a short gig because it looks cooler. :D Really haven't noticed a difference with lung capacity whether standing or sitting.
Creaky back and knees comes from loading out and in, not playing. :D |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by cliff:
Can't.
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Location: NJ | dick. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | richard, to you. |
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Location: NJ | no.
th'guy in th'picture w/th'newspapers . . . that's dick.
i know him.
it's dick hertz.
he's married to aunt flo (from red bank) . . . |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Originally posted by cliff:
Stand (Four f@&^%#ng Hours). I feel for you!!
That's why I play a pedal steel - can sit in the back and relax with a cold drink at the ready in the cup holder. The hours just fly by... :D |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by cliff:
it's dick hertz.
I've met him before. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | BTW: Paul McCartney's still gigging and he's older than you. 'Course, he's got someone to pack his gear.....but he commutes farther for the shows! |
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Location: NJ | MyHeart bleeds for him . . |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This thread should have been "Gigging WITH 54". |
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Location: NJ | I don't take #54 "out" on gigs, anymore.
I've even pondered throwing it up on th'Block . . |
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Location: Cicero, NY | ...and the seed is planted... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Oh boy... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Flahdaw | Might be a good campfire guitar. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Originally posted by rick endres:
I sit and use a folding chair like Neil Young when I have 3 and 4 hour gigs. More comfortable than a stool. I'll stand on a short gig because it looks cooler. :D Really haven't noticed a difference with lung capacity whether standing or sitting.
Creaky back and knees comes from loading out and in, not playing. :D Hello GlueMaster , Nice T` see you again .. how`s t´ CD comin` along ..
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Location: Nashville TN. | I missed your Birthday
Congrats great story.... |
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Location: NJ | If it WERE to "go", it would go to a "Player" and not a "Collector".
This is a Musical Instrument, not a friggin' Comic Book . . . |
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| But will you still be gigging at 64? Will they still need you? Will they still feed you?
Anyways - congratulations. |
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Location: Flahdaw | But will you still be gigging at 64?
We should send Cliff to the mothership and have an MP3 player installed in his head. He could be like the 1st Ovation Idea performer. Just wheel him out on stage, plug him in, and he could play til he's 74. Load him up with John Denver & Neil Diamond songs just to screw with him. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | John (what gas guage?)Denver, Kneel Diamond??
Why not add Cat Litter and make him totally lame? |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Originally posted by Beal:
Why not add Cat Litter and make him totally lame? Wouldn't that make him "useless"? |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by cholloway:
Originally posted by Beal:
Why not add Cat Litter and make him totally lame? Wouldn't that make him "useless"? Not to cats. |
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Location: Shelton, Washington, USA | great story, cliff. happy birthday!
i'm 53 and till giggin'... your story reminds me why i'm still chasing the dream. the worst night of gigging will always be better than the best day of working!
be well,
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Location: Texas | 54 on th'Block. . .?
man, you gotta do what you gotta do...
cuanto???
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Location: Utica, NY | Originally posted by cliff:
Stand (Four f@&^%#ng Hours). Dittos. Usually getting through the night is OK but because of the limited movement while playing and the extra strapped on weight packing up is always a challenge. I already have a bad back so that does not help the situation. I get really sore and stiff and it's impossible to get loose until midway through the next day. It's what I dread the most. And I am only 48! |
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Location: Flahdaw | So why not sit on a stool? Strictly personal choice? |
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Location: NJ | Kinda.
But I've also found that sitting restricts the diaphragm & limits your "projection" (& I tend t'project a lot). I tend t'sing much better when I'm standing.
Sitting for a long time also tends t'make me feel a bit "complacent" (it's kinda' like having yet ANOTHER "DeskJob" for FourHours . . . when I'm s'posed t'be having "Fun"). Staying On-My-Feet allows me to "move" & helps keep the EnergyLevel "up".
I guess if I was just doing a night of NeilYoung/JamesTaylor/JacksonBrowne "dirges" & th'like, I could "sit" th'whole night . . but I tend t'do a lot of "up-tempo" stuff, as well.
I have some tall, metal IKEA stools that my ex-partner & I used t'gig with. They're at a good level where you can park yer ass on it & be "half-sitting" & then just kick the stool out from under you when you wanna' "stand" . . . but it ends just just being yet ANOTHER piece o'crap to transport, so I generally don't bother . . .
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Location: Flahdaw | I can't tell if you're making fun of my earlier post in this thread...
"That's a good point. Do you guys stand or sit when you play? I don't think I could stand and play for hours, I would have to sit....but I sing better when I stand (opens up the lungs or something?)"
...but despite the fact that I KNOW I sing better standing, I just couldn't do it for that long of a stretch. More power to ya if you can, especially at your advanced age. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by dark bar:
I can't tell if you're making fun of my earlier post in this thread... If you can't tell, then he probably is. Kind of a standing rule with Clifford. |
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Location: Ontario Canada | Originally posted by dark bar:
I can't tell if you're making fun of my earlier post in this thread...
"That's a good point. Do you guys stand or sit when you play? I don't think I could stand and play for hours, I would have to sit....but I sing better when I stand (opens up the lungs or something?)"
...but despite the fact that I KNOW I sing better standing, I just couldn't do it for that long of a stretch. More power to ya if you can, especially at your advanced age. As long as our little group keeps advancing.
That's all we can hope for.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | What Cliff said about standing opening up your diaphragm is the same thing I was taught, so I my guess is that he was serious.
I like to sit when I play guitar, but I really need to practice more while standing up, just in case I ever get asked to play where they don't have anything to sit on. |
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Location: Indiana | I did a recording session with an artist who insisted on singing lying down. So we moved a couch out into the studio...
Keep the client happy. |
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Location: NJ | t'be Honest, I actually sing BEST when I'm standing - and barefoot . . .
Don't know what it is . .
Could be a "comfort"-thing . . . or just feeling "grounded", but I do.
. . not a lotta' venues y'can "get away" w/that, tho.
(that's when th'Crocs came in handy . . y'could just inconspicuously "slip out" of 'em . . .) |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by cliff:
t'be Honest, I actually sing BEST when I'm standing - and barefoot . . .
Wow, just like Kaki King |
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Location: NJ | great . . . |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I was with him on the diaphragm part, but I'm not going for the foot thing. |
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Location: Flahdaw | But do you drive your Porsche barefoot? |
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Location: NJ | (ding!) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Sometimes. . .but I wear a hat. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by cliff:
t'be Honest, I actually sing BEST when I'm standing - and barefoot . . . Also adds authenticity to the Jimmy Buffet Covers. |
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Location: Utica, NY | Originally posted by dark bar:
So why not sit on a stool? Strictly personal choice? Yeah. I just can't do that yet. Especially for the type of music we play it's just not appropriate. Perhaps that's part of the problem... :rolleyes: |
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