Is Ovation going under?
Styll
Posted 2008-04-30 7:21 PM (#41861)
Subject: Is Ovation going under?


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What is the buzz on production of ovations going overseas?

Ive read that most of the production will be heading that way...

Does this mean stock will rise? less American made? The end of American made?

Im already seeing the lack(the more lack of) Ovation and Admas guitars in music shops

Buy them up now!
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Omaha
Posted 2008-04-30 7:28 PM (#41862 - in reply to #41861)
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I was under the impression that the US plant was operating at near capacity. With the transfer of Guild production there, something's gotta give. Makes sense to me to move low end Ovation production to Korea and reserve CT production for high end O's, H's and G's.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-04-30 8:10 PM (#41863 - in reply to #41861)
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Het Styll, Another buzz says the world is going to end sometime pretty soon. Do you believe that too? I'm sure I'm not the only one who is really sick and tired of this. some of you guys need to start thinking for yourselves instead of posting your asinine "is Ovataion/Hamer dead?" questions here, or telling us what "you've read" from yet another internet forum whose "information" is nothing but wild speculation with no evidence or substance.

No, Ovation is not "going under"

Click
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Damon67
Posted 2008-04-30 8:20 PM (#41864 - in reply to #41861)
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Or maybe read the 437 other posts on this same topic.
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Styll
Posted 2008-04-30 8:36 PM (#41865 - in reply to #41861)
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yikes

sorry

lol

well thats why I thought I would ask the experts :) instead of hearing/reading this or that,,,
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-04-30 9:13 PM (#41866 - in reply to #41861)
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I`ve heard that Ovation will move to Alaska , to start a production of refrigerators...
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lanaki
Posted 2008-04-30 9:17 PM (#41867 - in reply to #41861)
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btw styll, welcome back! you have not posted here in quite awhile. glad to see you're styllstanding.
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alpep
Posted 2008-04-30 9:25 PM (#41868 - in reply to #41861)
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I think styll is RIGHT you all need to buy koa and 08 collectors NOW.
call me for details
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-04-30 9:39 PM (#41869 - in reply to #41861)
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Al, just don't sell mine by mistake!
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PEZ
Posted 2008-04-30 9:47 PM (#41870 - in reply to #41861)
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Fender seems pretty committed to hi-end instruments made in the USA.
Ovation will be around a long time.
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Styll
Posted 2008-04-30 10:40 PM (#41871 - in reply to #41861)
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glad i could help you Al... :) haha

and thanks for the welcome back....

lets just say things were not good on the homefront...
I am now a free man as they say
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-04-30 11:03 PM (#41872 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by Styll:
What is the buzz on production of ovations going overseas?

The end of American made?

Buy them up now!
Hey Styll... Long time no read...

Let me start my Own Rumor-- This is all a Marketing Plan by Fender... And It Works!

I have never bought a New Ovation, ever... But I have TWO coming Now!

Ever seen them Furniture Stores that have been "Going Out Of Business" for the last Two Years? :D

[aw... I missed it! I just had post #2345!]
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Beal
Posted 2008-04-30 11:16 PM (#41873 - in reply to #41861)
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Sounds like it's a good time to get another guitar then.
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Styll
Posted 2008-04-30 11:21 PM (#41874 - in reply to #41861)
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lol i hear you...It definitely worked.

However it is getting harder to find High end Os and Adamas models... the music stores here just will not touch them anymore
Might have to take a ride to Als...

My last purchase was The Elite T with The op pro...Its an absolute amazing guitar. My friend is hinting for me to sell it because he cant find it anywhere... All mine :)

I sent him your way Al...
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webe123
Posted 2008-04-30 11:47 PM (#41875 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by Styll:
What is the buzz on production of ovations going overseas?

Ive read that most of the production will be heading that way...

Does this mean stock will rise? less American made? The end of American made?

Im already seeing the lack(the more lack of) Ovation and Admas guitars in music shops

Buy them up now!
I just found this message board and you ask a question like that? LOL!

As my grandad used to say..."Don't believe anything you hear and only HALF of what you see".

As far as Fender's reputation...I hear it is a LOT better than Gibson as far as taking over companies. Fender does OK, but Gibson seems to be the touch of death for every company they take over.

Maybe that is why TC Electronics decided that merging with Gibson was not in their best intrest! I am glad,as they make so GREAT electronic effects for the guitar! (G System anyone? Or the new Nova system? )

From what I can tell, the 2008 ovation adamas is a great guitar and well built. That does not sound like a guitar made by a company going under.
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2008-05-01 1:53 AM (#41876 - in reply to #41861)
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Too much elephant talk. I recommend a fifth of jack and a bottle of prozac.
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muzza
Posted 2008-05-01 3:22 AM (#41877 - in reply to #41861)
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Hey Styll, welcome back. I was wondering what had happened to you. You had a PM in your letter box from me for quite a few months. I deleted it a few weeks ago. Thought you'd gone over to Taylor or something worse.

Sorry to hear your life got in the way of your OFC fun. Now you're single, there's no excuse.

Don't mind Temp, he's becoming Scottish. :D
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Jason_S
Posted 2008-05-01 3:45 AM (#41878 - in reply to #41861)
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muzz being a scot is a slight improvment over being a britt,no??? lol
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muzza
Posted 2008-05-01 7:07 AM (#41879 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by Jason_S:
muzz being a scot is a slight improvment over being a britt,no??? lol
Jump in any time now, Schroeder. :rolleyes:
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schroeder
Posted 2008-05-01 9:39 AM (#41880 - in reply to #41861)
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Sometimes Americans' ignorance of the rest of the world is breathtaking.
How's life in the antarctic muzz? Hate the new name BTW.
muzzabinamistake would have been better.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-05-01 10:04 AM (#41881 - in reply to #41861)
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There's a rest of the world? People live there? How quiant...
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-01 10:12 AM (#41882 - in reply to #41861)
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You're confusing ignorance with indifference...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-05-01 10:20 AM (#41883 - in reply to #41861)
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Even in my increasingly aged and forgetful condition I remember the chorus to a song (quite a big hit at the time):

"Come on People now,
smile on your brother,
Everybody get together,
try and love one another right now"!

BTW: the word for "love" there is agape': a Koine' Greek word meaning: always thinking the best and always doing the best for others.

Something to that I think!
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-01 10:25 AM (#41884 - in reply to #41861)
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You guys start waving cans of Coke & start singing "I'd Like t'Teach The World t'Sing",
and I am SO f@ckin' OUT Of Here!! . . .
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-05-01 10:41 AM (#41885 - in reply to #41861)
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Somebody should have figured that out 12000 posts ago. I bet you're really a sentimental softie down deep inside there somewhere, Cliff.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-05-01 11:01 AM (#41886 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Even in my increasingly aged and forgetful condition I remember the chorus to a song (quite a big hit at the time):

"Come on People now,
smile on your brother,
Everybody get together,
try and love one another right now"!
That song is our finale Saturday night!
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Styll
Posted 2008-05-01 12:26 PM (#41887 - in reply to #41861)
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Thanks Muzz,

Yes...definitely more time to devote to Ovation/ Adamas... :)

and getting back out there and playing...
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-01 12:58 PM (#41888 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I bet you're really a sentimental softie down deep inside there somewhere, Cliff.
Right around the middle, like so many of us.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-05-01 1:13 PM (#41889 - in reply to #41861)
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Yeah, Schroeder. We Americans may not know our geography, but we sure are fat.
What makes you think Americans know anything about our own part of the world? My secretary took her friend from Ireland to the local Krispy Kreme. She knew it was on Eagle Road, but the exit sign off the Interstate said "Eagle" not "Eagle Road", so she didn't turn. She drove about 50 miles out of the way and never found it. I bet her Irish friend is still telling stories about those Americans who get lost in their own town.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-01 1:44 PM (#41890 - in reply to #41861)
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. . . and you hired her.

(she must have great cans)
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-05-01 1:47 PM (#41891 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by cliff:
. . . and you hired her.

Maybe she hired MIB?
(I've met him ... but he does not have great cans).
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Styll
Posted 2008-05-01 2:08 PM (#41892 - in reply to #41861)
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Ovation is not going under...
but this topic sure is

hahaha
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-05-01 2:19 PM (#41893 - in reply to #41861)
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My secretary is from California. We don't give geography tests during the hiring process. Until I met her, I thought that it was only the people on the East Coast that were geographically challenged. Last week when I was in New York, I actually found a cab driver who knew his way around. All the previous cabbies drove all around and charged me a bunch more.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-01 2:30 PM (#41894 - in reply to #41861)
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Why didn't you TELL me you were in NewYork?!?!?

I woulda' bought you lunch!! . . .
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-05-01 2:47 PM (#41895 - in reply to #41861)
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I didn't know New Jersey was close to New York. Actually, I always try to schedule my trips as tightly as possible so that I don't have any free time. I wasn't too successful this time and spent way too much time at LaGuardia on Thursday afternoon, thinking that I could catch an earlier flight to Boise. There's never an earlier flight to Boise.
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John B
Posted 2008-05-01 3:06 PM (#41896 - in reply to #41861)
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"There's never an earlier flight to Boise"

Well .... it's Boise!!!
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-05-01 3:08 PM (#41897 - in reply to #41861)
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You know what they say about living in Boise: Doesn't matter if your destination is Heaven or Hell, you're going to go through Denver or Salt Lake City to get there.

Dave
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-01 3:20 PM (#41898 - in reply to #41861)
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". . I thought that it was only the people on the East Coast that were geographically challenged . ."

". . I didn't know New Jersey was close to New York . ."


. . . is it just me???
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-01 3:28 PM (#41899 - in reply to #41861)
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No. It was just too much like playing tee-ball.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-01 3:32 PM (#41900 - in reply to #41861)
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ThankYou,Wabbitt . . .
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-01 3:40 PM (#41901 - in reply to #41861)
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Glad to help.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-05-01 4:33 PM (#41902 - in reply to #41861)
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Sarcasm is always lost in print. I know where New Jersey is and enjoy looking at maps. I don't trust Mapquest.
Some day I'll visit New Jersey and look up Cliff and my friend who's a judge.
Somehow, visiting New York and failing to look up Cliff isn't quite the same as Dave visiting Boise and failing to look me up.
Dave, I went through Chicago on the way out. Denver on the way back.
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cholloway
Posted 2008-05-01 4:42 PM (#41903 - in reply to #41861)
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Some day I'll visit New Jersey and look up Cliff and my friend who's a judge.
Don't you have to indict Cliff first???
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-01 4:48 PM (#41904 - in reply to #41861)
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pffffff!!! . . . I've "danced" out of indictments held by bigger Sheister's than YOU!!! . . . .
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-05-01 5:09 PM (#41905 - in reply to #41861)
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I didn't think they'd be in the same place. It doesn't sound like Cliff likes to hang around the courthouse much.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-01 5:11 PM (#41906 - in reply to #41861)
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Or as he likes to refer to it, "the dance hall".
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-05-01 5:14 PM (#41907 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by John B:
Well .... it's Boise!!!
and Boise will be Boise....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-05-01 5:49 PM (#41908 - in reply to #41861)
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If we'd have followed Temp's advice and terminated this thread, we would have missed all these opportunities to pretend we were clever.
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Captain Black
Posted 2008-05-01 6:54 PM (#41909 - in reply to #41861)
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Buy up all the `Dicky Heart' signiture tambourines now before it's too late. (Oooopps! they ain't been made yet!)
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-05-01 7:20 PM (#41910 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Last week when I was in New York, I actually found a cab driver who knew his way around. All the previous cabbies drove all around and charged me a bunch more.
Your last cabbie just isn't familiar with East Coast economics and lawyers from Boise yet!
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TommyK
Posted 2008-05-02 10:09 AM (#41911 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
...

No, Ovation is not "going under"

Click
Does this mean Ovatino is going over? :p

Given the current value of the dollar vs. other currencies, there shouldn't be a lot of pressure to move Ovulation production overseas. As long as it's viewed as a premier make, the price of an Ovation on the overseas market should have dropped precipitously in the past year or so.

Applauses have been made on the Pac Rim for decades.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-02 10:55 AM (#41912 - in reply to #41861)
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...and they've sucked for decades...
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-02 11:47 AM (#41913 - in reply to #41861)
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The George Takei of acoustic guitars . . .
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John B
Posted 2008-05-02 11:58 AM (#41914 - in reply to #41861)
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"Ooooh my"
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ofajen
Posted 2008-05-18 11:47 PM (#41915 - in reply to #41861)
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I've been wondering about what changes, if any, are in store for Ovation USA. An Ovation factory rep (Phillip) was here at the local shop when I bought my Elite Ts. He said that that line was being moved to Korea by the end of the year and would sell at about the same price as the current sale price. Later conversations with my local dealer about other Ovations left me with the impression he thought even more lines might shift overseas.

Obviously, that does not imply the end of Ovation USA, much less Ovation generally, but it is worth finding more about. I plan to follow up with both the factory rep and my dealer.

Cheers,

Otto
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LBJ
Posted 2008-05-19 12:01 AM (#41916 - in reply to #41861)
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afaik prices haven't cjhanged here, in Europe. Representatives now have more money out of 1 guitar.
only prices of Gibson significantly dropped here.
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richardd
Posted 2008-05-19 6:15 AM (#41917 - in reply to #41861)
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....I wish someone would can this stupid thread
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-05-19 6:24 AM (#41918 - in reply to #41861)
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Hey Richard, how are you?
AJ
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richardd
Posted 2008-05-19 7:03 AM (#41919 - in reply to #41861)
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....fine James, hope you're the same
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-05-19 7:07 AM (#41920 - in reply to #41861)
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Haven't seen you around for a while.
I agree it is a stupid thread
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-05-19 9:18 AM (#41921 - in reply to #41861)
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Originally posted by richardd:
....I wish someone would can this stupid thread
Well... y'know... As long as folks keep adding to it... :rolleyes:
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-05-19 9:25 AM (#41922 - in reply to #41861)
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Al, close it!!
Ovation lives!!
AJ
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Beal
Posted 2008-05-19 9:44 AM (#41923 - in reply to #41861)
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Ovation is not going under, just some of them are going over. Some Guilds are coming back. A few others went up and a few did go away but may be reintroduced as something else someday.

Hope that clears it all up.
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-05-19 9:49 AM (#41924 - in reply to #41861)
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Ovation isn't going through anything different than most other companies do during their lifetimes. Get used to it and quit the doomsday posts. CLICK.

Dave
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