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Location: USA | What is the buzz on production of ovations going overseas?
Ive read that most of the production will be heading that way...
Does this mean stock will rise? less American made? The end of American made?
Im already seeing the lack(the more lack of) Ovation and Admas guitars in music shops
Buy them up now! |
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Location: Omaha, NE | I was under the impression that the US plant was operating at near capacity. With the transfer of Guild production there, something's gotta give. Makes sense to me to move low end Ovation production to Korea and reserve CT production for high end O's, H's and G's. |
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Location: Scotland | Het Styll, Another buzz says the world is going to end sometime pretty soon. Do you believe that too? I'm sure I'm not the only one who is really sick and tired of this. some of you guys need to start thinking for yourselves instead of posting your asinine "is Ovataion/Hamer dead?" questions here, or telling us what "you've read" from yet another internet forum whose "information" is nothing but wild speculation with no evidence or substance.
No, Ovation is not "going under"
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Location: Jet City | Or maybe read the 437 other posts on this same topic. |
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Location: USA | yikes
sorry
lol
well thats why I thought I would ask the experts :) instead of hearing/reading this or that,,, |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | I`ve heard that Ovation will move to Alaska , to start a production of refrigerators... |
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Location: big island | btw styll, welcome back! you have not posted here in quite awhile. glad to see you're styllstanding. |
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Location: NJ | I think styll is RIGHT you all need to buy koa and 08 collectors NOW.
call me for details |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Al, just don't sell mine by mistake! |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Fender seems pretty committed to hi-end instruments made in the USA.
Ovation will be around a long time. |
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Location: USA | glad i could help you Al... :) haha
and thanks for the welcome back....
lets just say things were not good on the homefront...
I am now a free man as they say |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Styll:
What is the buzz on production of ovations going overseas?
The end of American made?
Buy them up now! Hey Styll... Long time no read...
Let me start my Own Rumor-- This is all a Marketing Plan by Fender... And It Works!
I have never bought a New Ovation, ever... But I have TWO coming Now!
Ever seen them Furniture Stores that have been "Going Out Of Business" for the last Two Years? :D
[aw... I missed it! I just had post #2345!] |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Sounds like it's a good time to get another guitar then. |
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Location: USA | lol i hear you...It definitely worked.
However it is getting harder to find High end Os and Adamas models... the music stores here just will not touch them anymore
Might have to take a ride to Als...
My last purchase was The Elite T with The op pro...Its an absolute amazing guitar. My friend is hinting for me to sell it because he cant find it anywhere... All mine :)
I sent him your way Al... |
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| Originally posted by Styll:
What is the buzz on production of ovations going overseas?
Ive read that most of the production will be heading that way...
Does this mean stock will rise? less American made? The end of American made?
Im already seeing the lack(the more lack of) Ovation and Admas guitars in music shops
Buy them up now! I just found this message board and you ask a question like that? LOL!
As my grandad used to say..."Don't believe anything you hear and only HALF of what you see".
As far as Fender's reputation...I hear it is a LOT better than Gibson as far as taking over companies. Fender does OK, but Gibson seems to be the touch of death for every company they take over.
Maybe that is why TC Electronics decided that merging with Gibson was not in their best intrest! I am glad,as they make so GREAT electronic effects for the guitar! (G System anyone? Or the new Nova system? )
From what I can tell, the 2008 ovation adamas is a great guitar and well built. That does not sound like a guitar made by a company going under. |
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Location: enid, ok | Too much elephant talk. I recommend a fifth of jack and a bottle of prozac. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Hey Styll, welcome back. I was wondering what had happened to you. You had a PM in your letter box from me for quite a few months. I deleted it a few weeks ago. Thought you'd gone over to Taylor or something worse.
Sorry to hear your life got in the way of your OFC fun. Now you're single, there's no excuse.
Don't mind Temp, he's becoming Scottish. :D |
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Location: ranson,wva | muzz being a scot is a slight improvment over being a britt,no??? lol |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Jason_S:
muzz being a scot is a slight improvment over being a britt,no??? lol Jump in any time now, Schroeder. :rolleyes: |
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| Sometimes Americans' ignorance of the rest of the world is breathtaking.
How's life in the antarctic muzz? Hate the new name BTW.
muzzabinamistake would have been better. |
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Location: SoCal | There's a rest of the world? People live there? How quiant... |
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Location: closely held secret | You're confusing ignorance with indifference... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Even in my increasingly aged and forgetful condition I remember the chorus to a song (quite a big hit at the time):
"Come on People now,
smile on your brother,
Everybody get together,
try and love one another right now"!
BTW: the word for "love" there is agape': a Koine' Greek word meaning: always thinking the best and always doing the best for others.
Something to that I think! |
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Location: NJ | You guys start waving cans of Coke & start singing "I'd Like t'Teach The World t'Sing",
and I am SO f@ckin' OUT Of Here!! . . . |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Somebody should have figured that out 12000 posts ago. I bet you're really a sentimental softie down deep inside there somewhere, Cliff. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Even in my increasingly aged and forgetful condition I remember the chorus to a song (quite a big hit at the time):
"Come on People now,
smile on your brother,
Everybody get together,
try and love one another right now"! That song is our finale Saturday night! |
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Location: USA | Thanks Muzz,
Yes...definitely more time to devote to Ovation/ Adamas... :)
and getting back out there and playing... |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I bet you're really a sentimental softie down deep inside there somewhere, Cliff. Right around the middle, like so many of us. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Yeah, Schroeder. We Americans may not know our geography, but we sure are fat.
What makes you think Americans know anything about our own part of the world? My secretary took her friend from Ireland to the local Krispy Kreme. She knew it was on Eagle Road, but the exit sign off the Interstate said "Eagle" not "Eagle Road", so she didn't turn. She drove about 50 miles out of the way and never found it. I bet her Irish friend is still telling stories about those Americans who get lost in their own town. |
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Location: NJ | . . . and you hired her.
(she must have great cans) |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by cliff:
. . . and you hired her.
Maybe she hired MIB?
(I've met him ... but he does not have great cans). |
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Location: USA | Ovation is not going under...
but this topic sure is
hahaha |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | My secretary is from California. We don't give geography tests during the hiring process. Until I met her, I thought that it was only the people on the East Coast that were geographically challenged. Last week when I was in New York, I actually found a cab driver who knew his way around. All the previous cabbies drove all around and charged me a bunch more. |
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Location: NJ | Why didn't you TELL me you were in NewYork?!?!?
I woulda' bought you lunch!! . . . |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I didn't know New Jersey was close to New York. Actually, I always try to schedule my trips as tightly as possible so that I don't have any free time. I wasn't too successful this time and spent way too much time at LaGuardia on Thursday afternoon, thinking that I could catch an earlier flight to Boise. There's never an earlier flight to Boise. |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | "There's never an earlier flight to Boise"
Well .... it's Boise!!! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | You know what they say about living in Boise: Doesn't matter if your destination is Heaven or Hell, you're going to go through Denver or Salt Lake City to get there.
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Location: NJ | ". . I thought that it was only the people on the East Coast that were geographically challenged . ."
". . I didn't know New Jersey was close to New York . ."
. . . is it just me??? |
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Location: closely held secret | No. It was just too much like playing tee-ball. |
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Location: NJ | ThankYou,Wabbitt . . . |
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Location: closely held secret | Glad to help. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Sarcasm is always lost in print. I know where New Jersey is and enjoy looking at maps. I don't trust Mapquest.
Some day I'll visit New Jersey and look up Cliff and my friend who's a judge.
Somehow, visiting New York and failing to look up Cliff isn't quite the same as Dave visiting Boise and failing to look me up.
Dave, I went through Chicago on the way out. Denver on the way back. |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Some day I'll visit New Jersey and look up Cliff and my friend who's a judge. Don't you have to indict Cliff first??? |
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Location: NJ | pffffff!!! . . . I've "danced" out of indictments held by bigger Sheister's than YOU!!! . . . . |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I didn't think they'd be in the same place. It doesn't sound like Cliff likes to hang around the courthouse much. |
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Location: closely held secret | Or as he likes to refer to it, "the dance hall". |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by John B:
Well .... it's Boise!!! and Boise will be Boise.... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | If we'd have followed Temp's advice and terminated this thread, we would have missed all these opportunities to pretend we were clever. |
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Location: Yorkshire, England | Buy up all the `Dicky Heart' signiture tambourines now before it's too late. (Oooopps! they ain't been made yet!) |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Last week when I was in New York, I actually found a cab driver who knew his way around. All the previous cabbies drove all around and charged me a bunch more. Your last cabbie just isn't familiar with East Coast economics and lawyers from Boise yet!  |
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Location: Illinois | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
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No, Ovation is not "going under"
Click Does this mean Ovatino is going over? :p
Given the current value of the dollar vs. other currencies, there shouldn't be a lot of pressure to move Ovulation production overseas. As long as it's viewed as a premier make, the price of an Ovation on the overseas market should have dropped precipitously in the past year or so.
Applauses have been made on the Pac Rim for decades. |
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Location: closely held secret | ...and they've sucked for decades... |
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Location: NJ | The George Takei of acoustic guitars . . . |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | "Ooooh my" |
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Location: 92W 39N | I've been wondering about what changes, if any, are in store for Ovation USA. An Ovation factory rep (Phillip) was here at the local shop when I bought my Elite Ts. He said that that line was being moved to Korea by the end of the year and would sell at about the same price as the current sale price. Later conversations with my local dealer about other Ovations left me with the impression he thought even more lines might shift overseas.
Obviously, that does not imply the end of Ovation USA, much less Ovation generally, but it is worth finding more about. I plan to follow up with both the factory rep and my dealer.
Cheers,
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Location: Tychy, Poland | afaik prices haven't cjhanged here, in Europe. Representatives now have more money out of 1 guitar.
only prices of Gibson significantly dropped here. |
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Location: Australia | ....I wish someone would can this stupid thread |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Hey Richard, how are you?
AJ |
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Location: Australia | ....fine James, hope you're the same |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Haven't seen you around for a while.
I agree it is a stupid thread |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by richardd:
....I wish someone would can this stupid thread Well... y'know... As long as folks keep adding to it... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Al, close it!!
Ovation lives!!
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Ovation is not going under, just some of them are going over. Some Guilds are coming back. A few others went up and a few did go away but may be reintroduced as something else someday.
Hope that clears it all up. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ovation isn't going through anything different than most other companies do during their lifetimes. Get used to it and quit the doomsday posts. CLICK.
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