Dobro's Guitar Hero
dobro
Posted 2010-04-14 7:26 AM (#374450)
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Here's a short "quotation," a reference to someone I admire: Can you guess?

Reference to a Hero...
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numbfingers
Posted 2010-04-14 10:05 AM (#374451 - in reply to #374450)
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Very nice! Saw him play that in about 1973, with the small group. Still have the (unauthorized) t-shirt.

-Steve W.
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-14 1:51 PM (#374452 - in reply to #374450)
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A winner! Of course, it's "Meeting of the Spirits" by John McLaughlin (lead track on his "breakout" album with Mahavishnu "Inner Mounting Flame").

The heart of the tune are just these two simple chords that establish a "mood" (or mode?)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-04-14 2:30 PM (#374453 - in reply to #374450)
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Wow. Makes me glad I didn't guess. I was going to say Willie Nelson, Blue Eyes Crying in The Rain....
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-14 3:06 PM (#374454 - in reply to #374450)
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Pretty close, actually ... On "One Man Dog" James Taylor does a McLaughlin tune ("SOMEONE") : it's quite nice and features guitar work throughout by the composer!
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numbfingers
Posted 2010-04-14 3:31 PM (#374455 - in reply to #374450)
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That's an obscure one. Once I was guest DJ on a local public radio show and played it. The regular host was a big McLaughlin fan but had never heard it.

If MOTS (mother of toilet seat?) has 2 chords, it should be perfect for Moody.

-Steve W.
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-14 3:45 PM (#374456 - in reply to #374450)
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MoTS = Meeting Of The Spirits. Yes, two 3-finger chords where only the bass note changes:

2 X 4 0 2 0 and 3 X 4 0 2 0

picking order: 6 4 2 3 1 [2X] plus 2-note pickup on bass: F# E and G E) It's in 12/8: 5+5+2 ...
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-14 4:20 PM (#374457 - in reply to #374450)
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PS: no matter how much I play or listen to the tune, I am really taken by the dark space that opens up in these chords!
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Posted 2010-04-14 6:56 PM (#374458 - in reply to #374450)
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I can still remember hearing Inner Mounting Flame for the first time back in the 70's. It really opened my ears. It was like nothing I had ever heard before.

I saw John McLaughlin with Shakti a few years later. Great show.

John is a very talented guy who's made a lot of great music over the years.
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-14 11:55 PM (#374459 - in reply to #374450)
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Indeed: I feel like I travel in time with that particular tune. Yesterday I played for hours (I mercifully posted only a snippet:)
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-17 1:00 AM (#374460 - in reply to #374450)
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The ORIGINAL!

I am not worthy!
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standing
Posted 2010-04-21 9:50 PM (#374461 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by dobro:
The ORIGINAL!

I am not worthy!
You are more worthy than most of us here…

…but that's not really much of a compliment… ;)

Since this is a quiz thread;

I just got a CD that "The Master" plays on, and which features an Ovation guitar frolicking on the beach, who can name the title?

(Probably way too easy for Dobro, but since I never owned it before, I was unaware of the interesting cover photography… until now…)

;)
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-22 8:23 AM (#374462 - in reply to #374450)
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Passion, Grace and Fire! What a great graphic, eh? Honestly, though, I never quite understood John M's switch to nylon. For his style, steel strings respond better IMO...
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-22 1:07 PM (#374463 - in reply to #374450)
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The ORIGINAL Ovation-frolicking-in-natural-landscape graphic? Almost as good as Music Mike's pics :)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-04-22 11:28 PM (#374464 - in reply to #374450)
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I'm sorry. This is not my kinda music. I recognize the artistry and the technical ability that McLaughlin has, but it seem like it's a lot of stacato bursts of notes. Where's the melody? Where's the subtilty? I remember seeing Al DiMeola in Austin TX in the 70's after reading about him for about 5 years. And thought the same thing I always think when I listen to him. I'm impressed as hell with his ability, but I'm bored with the massive amounts of notes.

If you like it, all the more power to you. But it's not my cup of tea....
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-23 8:31 AM (#374465 - in reply to #374450)
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I do understand, Paul. I simply can't play like John M. so my short "reference" at the top of the post DOES state the melody, the violin theme and the two basic chords (I relate to it as sort of a musical trance, good for improvising at any level).
THIS TUNE from our website (sonicbids) is a gentle tune by DiMeola with no bravado. Check it out (this version is Jeff Burns overdub)
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AlanM
Posted 2010-04-23 1:12 PM (#374466 - in reply to #374450)
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I don't disagree with Paul...Everyone has his/her "cup of tea."

However, I think there can be great beauty in both the frantically fast and the soulfully slow, and, of course, all points in-between. And in the blending of both. For example: Mark Knopfler's Local Hero is just gorgeous, and not at all gymnastic. However, Knopfler's exquisite touch makes every note expressive. Mclaughlin does that with MOTS, but adds in the short frantic runs to provide two textures for the song. Both contribute to a mood. If I had to guess, I'd say that with John's technical mastery he manages to transmit to his listeners something pretty close to what he's TRYING to transmit. Not an easy feat, and frequently, these days, accomplished through a whole bunch of non-musical additions (lighting, lasers, fog machines, light shows, pyrotechnics, etc.), all of which would be perfectly useless to the blind listener, and which represent, I think, a tacit admission that they are unable to pull it off via music alone.

That's why, so many times, the McLaughlins of the world play on sets with a plant or two, and that's it. They don't need a single non-musical element; rather such extranesous things more likely get in the way. Because they have such command of their instruments, their self-expression comes exclusively therefrom. This is why I was -- and am -- so blown away by the frantically fast, but melodically gorgeous, "La Gitane" by Andelo deBarre.

I've always told my kids...one test of a truly great musician: can he/she impress a blind listener? And that's why the Knopflers and the McLaughlins and the DeBarres of the world are great: late at night, turn the lights off and listen. Their music is even better.
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schroeder
Posted 2010-04-23 4:04 PM (#374467 - in reply to #374450)
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"I've always told my kids...one test of a truly great musician: can he/she impress a blind listener? And that's why the Knopflers and the McLaughlins and the DeBarres of the world are great: late at night, turn the lights off and listen. Their music is even better."

If you don't mind me saying so, what bollocks. If you're listening to a cd you are blind to the musician anyway whether the lights are on or not. And irrespective of the time of day.
And as to impressing a blind person - what happens if they are tone deaf? What if they are Herman's hermits fans?
I could go blind and still fail to see the magic of Zappa and paul McCartney.
Complete bollocks.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-04-23 4:33 PM (#374468 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
What if they are Herman's hermits fans?
Just cover your ears, Bradley. Don't pay attention to the bad man.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-04-23 4:55 PM (#374469 - in reply to #374450)
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As if there really is such a thing as a Herman's Hermits fan. What complete bollocks
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stephent28
Posted 2010-04-23 5:02 PM (#374470 - in reply to #374450)
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Medications #21 + 5
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-23 5:14 PM (#374471 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by Waskel:
Originally posted by schroeder:
What if they are Herman's hermits fans?
Just cover your ears, Bradley. Don't pay attention to the bad man.
Blasphemy Mr. Schroeder.... blasphemy!
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AlanM
Posted 2010-04-23 5:14 PM (#374472 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
"I've always told my kids...one test of a truly great musician: can he/she impress a blind listener? And that's why the Knopflers and the McLaughlins and the DeBarres of the world are great: late at night, turn the lights off and listen. Their music is even better."

If you don't mind me saying so, what bollocks. If you're listening to a cd you are blind to the musician anyway whether the lights are on or not. And irrespective of the time of day.
And as to impressing a blind person - what happens if they are tone deaf? What if they are Herman's hermits fans?
I could go blind and still fail to see the magic of Zappa and paul McCartney.
Complete bollocks.
I don't mind you saying so at all, but I figured it was obvious that I was presuming a certain level of discernment...didn't think I needed to spell that out. After all, it was expressed to a pretty discerning crowd (in general).

Regarding listening to a CD, it's self-evidently a DIFFERENT experience to listen to a CD with the lights turned off...I maintain that it's a better experience, because it reduces distractions. If, that is, your point is truly to listen to the music, rather than just have a background sound.

So, not at all complete bollocks.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-04-23 5:19 PM (#374473 - in reply to #374450)
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I listen to Barry White CD's by candlelight while soaking in my bubble bath. Very relaxing.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-04-23 5:21 PM (#374474 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I listen to Barry White CD's by candlelight while soaking in my bubble bath. Very relaxing.
See? A discerning crowd!
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2010-04-23 5:22 PM (#374475 - in reply to #374450)
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soaking.... is that what they call it nowadays?
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-04-23 5:23 PM (#374476 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I listen to Barry White CD's by candlelight while soaking in my bubble bath. Very relaxing.
While giving Ukelele lessons
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schroeder
Posted 2010-04-23 5:24 PM (#374477 - in reply to #374450)
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Forgive my lack of discernment.
I feel humbled in your presence.No wonder my kids have no musical talent.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-23 5:25 PM (#374478 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by Waskel:
Originally posted by schroeder:
What if they are Herman's hermits fans?
Just cover your ears, Bradley. Don't pay attention to the bad man.
Blasphemy Mr. Schroeder.... blasphemy!
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Rich.. I just loaded Mrs. Brown on my ING page.
It was recorded at one of the first times Brian & I played out. Dave took the recording and mixed in a uke track. The music player is on the left side of the page, bout half way down... HERE
A hundred open mic guys play this better a hundred times a day. Yet I'm still proud of this one. Especially after what Dave added.
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Now... Rich.. what songs you thinkin' on doin'?

oops.. I'm getting confused. I thought this was Twisted's thread.
Forgive me... I'm new here.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-04-23 5:33 PM (#374479 - in reply to #374450)
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Brad, I went into that thinking I wouldn't like it.
I was completely wrong.... that was pretty cool! A little bit wienie, but hey, who am I to say?
Very cool!
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-23 5:35 PM (#374480 - in reply to #374450)
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Thanks D.B.
I confess... I'm the king of wienie.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-04-23 5:39 PM (#374481 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I listen to Barry White CD's by candlelight while soaking in my bubble bath. Very relaxing.
The visual on this is massively disturbing! Just makes me wanna yell "Gert Stonkers!"

and then go get electric shock therapy......
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AlanM
Posted 2010-04-23 6:26 PM (#374482 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
Forgive my lack of discernment.
I feel humbled in your presence.No wonder my kids have no musical talent.
You're forgiven.
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Posted 2010-04-23 6:27 PM (#374483 - in reply to #374450)
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Oddly it makes me want to drive you there. I must be VERY upset.
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Beal
Posted 2010-04-23 8:05 PM (#374484 - in reply to #374450)
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Gert Stonking Bollocks

Now let me see.........
forget my words
loose my pick
break a string
dead battery in the tuner
borrowed Darby's guitar
too short strap
collapsing stool
bad lighting
noisey crowd
spilled my beer
noodle on two chords for 20 minutes
There, that's everything

next?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-04-23 8:06 PM (#374485 - in reply to #374450)
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Originally posted by Beal:
Gert Stonking Bollocks
+1....
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stephent28
Posted 2010-04-23 11:51 PM (#374486 - in reply to #374450)
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