|
|
Joined:
September 2005
Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | 1537 Sunburst STEAL ...
I tried to get a last minute bid in on this and just missed it. My bid was a lot higher than the winners, but my wife distracted me from bidding while she was arguing with me over it. ): |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2010
Posts: 370
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | Sorry you missed it... a beauty!!
Someone got a really good deal though. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2009
Posts: 1137
Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Oh yes, a very good deal! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2009
Posts: 1137
Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Oh no, it's not mine!
Bernie |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | You guys should remember that Brad and I can check this stuff out locally if given a heads up.
Gravity music is a nice shop and I have dropped in periodically and bought stuff from them. Probably no more than 10-15 miles max from either of our houses.
Wish I had noticed this one.....not that I would have bought it but I could have checked it out for those interested. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2004
Posts: 709
Location: Germany | Vince, sorry to hear that. Unfortunately they don't ship internationally but I know the one who won the auction. More info soon ...
Karl |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2006
Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | This is an outlet store for second-hand gear. While they do have their retail store open to the public, it is by no means customer friendly. No counters, nothing on the walls, no signage and no prices posted, no sales staff, just old gear spread out all over the floor. They specialize in on-line sales and you have to know what you're looking for if you actually visit their store. While attending a liquidation auction for a another closed music store, I ended up bidding against Gravity Music store's owner for a beautiful Breedlove neon sign. I realized what was happending and stopped bidding about $100 short of where I was willing to go. He got the sign. Then I called him the next day and offered him $20 more than he paid for it, which he quickly accepted. We both won. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2008
Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by bvince:
My bid was a lot higher than the winners, Yes, but was it higher than the winning bidders MAXIMUM bid? I think the max bid on this one was plenty high. Just a hunch ... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2006
Posts: 4236
Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | In a minor aside, I'm SERIOUSLY happy someone managed to steal this one. I planned on bidding when I got home from traveling for the holiday, but got delayed several hours and missed it by minutes. Otherwise, you would soon be looking at pics of it twinning up beside my burst 1538.
Still, I'm pleased (and slightly surprised) that no one put up a "PSA" about it as it gave someone an opportunity to get it at a bargain price. Which at some time in the distant past, was just about the WHOLE FUN of lurking around eBay!
Yeah, yeah...I'm well aware that some dealer may have snagged it just to flip it, but it is also possible that whoever got it is doing cartwheels about finally snagging his/her dream guitar when they thought they would never be able to afford one. (That's how I feel about my D-42.)
Shopping on eBay has gotten less and less fun for the last couple of years because guitar forums "out" any potential bargain, and the sharks are drawn to it like an industrial-sized chum bucket.
So, congratulations to the new owner. I hope you get years of pleasant use from it. You got it for less than half its actual worth, so play it with a knowing smirk and most definitely, ENJOY! :cool: |
|
| |
|
Joined:
July 2003
Posts: 3111
Location: Nashville TN. | wasn't me |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2008
Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | Wonder why the seller would not ship internationally? Cuts him off from a pretty big market of Ovation fans that are willing to pay good money for something special like this that isn't readily available in Europe and certaily not at a stupid low USD price like this ...
Hope the guitar comes to a US inspection station so somebody can check it out good before sending it overseas. For this low of a purchase price, even if it took a small investment in fix-ups, and some extra money for overseas shipment it would still be a hell of a bargin for a European buyer. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2005
Posts: 497
Location: California | Agree, it will be a good buy.
------------
I was told by mothership that a 1537 natural finish will arrive tomorrow (refinish top and new electronics, setup,etc, etc). :)
Hector |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2006
Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Wonder why the seller would not ship internationally? Cuts him off from a pretty big market of Ovation fans that are willing to pay good money for something special like this that isn't readily available in Europe and certaily not at a stupid low USD price like this ... Probably less hassle and/or previous bad experiences. Plus, who besides the OFC knows the pains our overseas members have to go through to adopt one of the worlds finest guitars? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2010
Posts: 370
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | I have never been able to figure out why so many American sellers are leery of shipping to Canada or Europe.
From what I understand, the process isn't any more complicated, expensive or a pain than when we ship to the USA or Europe?
All we have to do is go to a Canada Post outlet, fill in a customs declaration and pay.
I once ordered some parts from Florida and when I joked that it would probably be easier to have reactor parts shipped to Iran, he (the seller...) got really paranoid and said, "we don't even joke about that..." (hinting you never know who is listening). It can't be that bad, is it?
Anybody have any thoughts on this... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Maybe we don't joke about "nuclear" and "Iran"... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Well the UPS rubber stamp is a big ripoff.
I bought a compressor for my studio from a fellow in Quebec. The unit was originally made in the US so no duty issues.
UPS charged me $28 to process the paperwork which as far as I could tell simply said it was a compressor for a studio. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Did you need the compressor to inflate your air guitar? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2008
Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | By some odd quirk, shipping Mr. Big T-shirts to members in Canada was a few pennies cheaper than shipping to members in the USA. Part of the 11 Trillion deficit, I guess. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2009
Posts: 1433
Location: Right now? | Oh, my ... what a steal. Congrats to the new owner ... Bryan, I can't say I'd blame you if you were TOTALLY p*ssed at your wife! Geesh!
;)
Willa |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2008
Posts: 747
| Originally posted by Avatar4550:
I have never been able to figure out why so many American sellers are leery of shipping to Canada or Europe... Anybody have any thoughts on this... Lots of US companies/sellers ship to Canada.
Maybe they just tell you that they don't because they find you irritating and want you to go away..lol |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | I am not an expert in this which is the 1st reason I am more comfortable within CONUS (plus Hawaii and Alaska). Other countries, I have had buyers want me to declare less than the value. This is illegal and can result in my loss if there is damage. There is a cost of brokerage and conversion of payment, even if wired to a separate account. If the buyer doesn't pay the customs, they will come back on the shipper.
Unfortunately, if I have two possible buyers, I would prefer shipping it to a U.S. address and payment in USD. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2008
Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Joe Rotax:
Maybe they just tell you that they don't because they find you irritating and want you to go away. No way. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 7247
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "Wonder why the seller would not ship internationally? "
Guitars going international are just inconvenient if you don't do it all the time. Combined with (as I found out) all post offices NOT interpreting the rules the same way. Then you get into the customs thing. I've had shipments go out and have everything from them take over 30 days to arrive just fine at their destination, to upwards of 45 days, when they've completely fallen off the map, to end up on my doorstep again. Recently got a package back from Italy nearly 60 days out cause, from the best I can translate, that the recipient didn't want to pay the customs.... so the product was just returned.
I have shipped a lot, so this all is just noise level for me, but for the person that ships only a few packages, I can see why they wouldn't bother with international. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | We ship a lot of international (not guitars) and rarely have problems. But when there IS a problem, it's a real PITA. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2008
Posts: 4996
Location: Phoenix AZ | My only point was that when it comes to USA built guitars there is far less selection in Europe than the US and some pretty rabid fans and collectors over there. I know for a fact that this sunbust 1537 in question that sold to a US buyer for under $500. would have gone for over $1200. to a European buyer. The seller missed out on some tidy profit for a little extra work on his part. Just saying ... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2005
Posts: 4081
Location: Utah | Originally posted by Avatar4550:
I have never been able to figure out why so many American sellers are leery of shipping to Canada or Europe. If someone tries to rip me off, it's a lot easier to go "discuss" the issue with them in person in the USA than go to Europe to do so. Canada? Not so difficult, but still there is an impression of it being far more difficult to bring the law in to help.
I would sell and ship to our European or Canadian members once they have an established history on the OFC. On FeeBay I would not sell internationally. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2005
Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I feel the same way. When doing business with people on EBay you don't know them from Jack, and you are ALWAYS facing some kind of risk. When dealing with international bidders that risk factor just increases exponentially. I've been able to track down crappy sellers and deal with them in a more direct manner when I had to. Out of country that would be impossible. I would also feel a lot more comfortable dealing with our more-established out-of-country members here, especially when they have good references through our other members. But hey ... even within the club there have been some bad deals, although they have been rare. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2003
Posts: 1071
Location: Carle Place, NY | Back on subject.
Looks like nobody here got this one. This may be the best eBay bargain that I've ever seen. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2004
Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | D a v e . . . |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2005
Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Karl, from Germany said he knows who bought it, but he hasn't told us yet ... ??? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2004
Posts: 709
Location: Germany | For quite some time I've been looking for a companion for my sunburst 1538. A well-known US member on this board did me a favour and bid on this 1537. His (my) maximum bid was almost triple the final prize. I was really surprised and more than happy how the auction ended! In the light of this bargain I really hope that the successful bidder is still willing to forward the guitar to me.
Karl
PS. So far I've only seen one sunburst 1537 for sale in Europe. It was only 10 miles from my home so I inspected the guitar but it was in terrible shape. The prize was $900. Don't know if it ever sold. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Congrats Karl!
Will it be going to the mothership for a quick checkup before it goes across the sea? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2006
Posts: 4236
Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Congrats Karl! I'm glad I didn't bid now. I would have only cost you more money. Just wait until you hear it! :) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2005
Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Congrats Karl! Now I don't feel so bad about my bid not going through. You're going to love the -37. I'm sure there will be others in the future, and I am blessed to already own a 1537. I DO however hope to someday land a sunburst twin to go with the one I have ... a 1547 would be EXCEPTIONALLY good. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2009
Posts: 1137
Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Glückwunsch, Karl!! Superschnäppchen.
Bernie |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2007
Posts: 1008
Location: Tuscany, Italy | Karl, what Bernie said ;)
(hope is something polite .... :D )
However, congrats !!
Riccardo |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2009
Posts: 1137
Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Hahaha, I said: "Congrats, Karl! Super deal."
Bernie |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2005
Posts: 3619
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Bernie, You'll have to hook up with him and try it out. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2009
Posts: 602
Location: Hanau, Hessen, Germany | That's a deal of a lifetime. Congrats Karl! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2006
Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | Glad I didn't see that one. Your final price would have been higher...
Congrats Karl, that's a bargain on a great guitar! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2009
Posts: 1137
Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Bryan, I hope so.....one day.
Karl is not so far from me, ap.300km.
Bernie |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2007
Posts: 1008
Location: Tuscany, Italy | Originally posted by bvince:
Bernie, You'll have to hook up with him and try it out. Me tooooo !!
Bernie first, Riccardo second ..... I need to try a 1537 once in a life, right ?
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2005
Posts: 12761
Location: Boise, Idaho | Karl is a great guy, has great guitars and is a great singer and player. The only thing that might not be so great for you guys is that he's got a great songbook--but it's all in English. Maybe he's got a German one, too. Well worth a visit. |
|
| |
OK! ... Which one of You Snagged this one?