OH MOMMA! Just wait 'til you guys see this!
Patch
Posted 2010-06-10 3:01 PM (#370069)
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Mothership comes through yet again! I can't believe I actually have this BEAUTIFUL instrument in my little amateur hands. The pictures tell the aesthetics story, but the actual specs will give you an idea of the tone.

It's a figured Redwood topped, non-cutaway, 12-fret, 1 3/4 inch nut, OP-pro studio, deep-bowl of tone goodness. Absolutely nourishing to the soul! Acoustically, just try to imagine a cedar nylon string with a little more bass and a LOT more sustain. It's well balanced throughout the tonal spectrum and, with the tortoise binding and abalone purfling, just dares you not to look while you listen.

I've been grumping a little lately in a just-my-luck kind of way about facing two surgeries this summer that will severely curtail my guitar playing. But when you get something like this, you just have to count your blessings. (Not to mention get motivated to recuperate ASAP.)

So enjoy the pics. The clouds were seriously active in the mid-Hudson Valley this afternoon. You'll find more pics on my ning page at this link:

Redwood 1713-X















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twistedlim
Posted 2010-06-10 3:20 PM (#370070 - in reply to #370069)
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Ummmm...WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!! I only wish it was TJ's so it would be on the market in the near future :) .
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2010-06-10 3:28 PM (#370071 - in reply to #370069)
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Holy Cow!
That is AWESOME!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2010-06-10 3:29 PM (#370072 - in reply to #370069)
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Very nice Patch!


Now, rewind the strings properly.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2010-06-10 3:32 PM (#370073 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
Ummmm...WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!! I only wish it was TJ's so it would be on the market in the near future :) .
I think I'd have to hold on to that one for a while!
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bburg
Posted 2010-06-10 3:32 PM (#370074 - in reply to #370069)
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Eye-catcher and dream-guitar!!! Awesome!

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ksdaddy
Posted 2010-06-10 4:02 PM (#370075 - in reply to #370069)
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That thing ain't even human.
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BT717
Posted 2010-06-10 4:08 PM (#370076 - in reply to #370069)
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Wow!!! That is gorgeous!!!!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-06-10 4:18 PM (#370077 - in reply to #370069)
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Beautiful execution. Did you have this custom made?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-06-10 4:24 PM (#370078 - in reply to #370069)
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Just beautiful. It's a deep bowl, not contour? Interesting choice of a bridge. How'd you decide on that? Also, how's it braced internally? Traditional Ovation fan or LX bracing?

I like an abalone trimmed nylon string. I had that done to my 1773LX.
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MWoody
Posted 2010-06-10 4:36 PM (#370079 - in reply to #370069)
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Nice!
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Patch
Posted 2010-06-10 4:39 PM (#370080 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Just beautiful. It's a deep bowl, not contour? Interesting choice of a bridge. How'd you decide on that? Also, how's it braced internally? Traditional Ovation fan or LX bracing?

I like an abalone trimmed nylon string. I had that done to my 1773LX.
Nothing against them, but it's not a contour. I like the deep bowl best, maybe because I've been playing them for so long and I'm used to them.

John and I went round and round about the bridge. I wanted something other than the traditional square-block type. I think this was John's idea, and I trusted his judgment about it. I'm just a llliiiiiiittle concerned that it might groove too much on the leading edge. If it does, I may have to jerry-rig a tougher leading edge into it, but that's well into the future. I also meant to put a black PU assembly in it and need to get one now.

With the bracing, you got me. I made no specification. When I get a chance, I'll check it with a mirror and let you know.

As far as all of the questions about its origins. It is built to my specs in every way. I cannot compliment John's and Kim's professionalism and patience enough. They went WAY beyond stellar customer service throughout this process.

Of course, that only encourages me to test their patience further in the future eh? ;) :cool:
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Auriemma
Posted 2010-06-10 4:44 PM (#370081 - in reply to #370069)
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Patch... you must have done something right in a previous life. NICE!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-06-10 4:44 PM (#370082 - in reply to #370069)
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Patch, I'm with you on the deep vs. contour bowls. I prefer the deep, probably because I'm used to it....
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kotadawg
Posted 2010-06-10 4:46 PM (#370083 - in reply to #370069)
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Beautiful.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2010-06-10 4:51 PM (#370084 - in reply to #370069)
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Stunning! You deserve it, Patch. Now I understand what's been going on with all the recent sales. WELL worth it!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-06-10 6:22 PM (#370085 - in reply to #370069)
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Very unique. The bridge looks like spec for a Viper. I don't know much about redwood as a tone top ... does it react well to the nylon strings? Looks like some nice baloney on there.
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TRboy
Posted 2010-06-10 6:45 PM (#370086 - in reply to #370069)
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Great looking guitar Patch....Love the trim!

I don't know how you feel about them but you could use ball-end nylon strings (what the bridge is made for....) if you're worried about grooving the bridge.

And I agree with TJ....wind dem string properly! ;)
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-06-10 6:49 PM (#370087 - in reply to #370069)
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I especially like the truss rod cover! A couple of months ago I wanted to give a unique look to my UTE so I got out a piece of mahogony and...

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2ifbyC
Posted 2010-06-10 7:02 PM (#370088 - in reply to #370069)
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Oh my! That's beyond awesome...

Patch, I must say you outdid yourself on dis 'un. I can hardly wait until you publish a tune with it. Hurry up and heal!

Agree with TJ and TRboy, ball ends and rewind...
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TRboy
Posted 2010-06-10 7:16 PM (#370089 - in reply to #370069)
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I was to late to edit my earlier post....

The (tie) strings WILL groove that style bridge!

Someone had put nylon strings on my Folklore before I got it....

....I don't know how long they used it that way but you can see the damage!
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Patch
Posted 2010-06-10 7:19 PM (#370090 - in reply to #370069)
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Heh, heh.....

Before I get a reputation I don't deserve (Although there are probably others that I DO deserve.), please be aware that the strings were wound like that at the factory. I considered re-doing them before the pics, but I was racing approaching thunderstorms. It was raining buckets less than an hour after the pictures were taken.
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Patch
Posted 2010-06-10 7:28 PM (#370091 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
I especially like the truss rod cover!
I called John not two weeks ago with the idea of a matching TRC. Considering the guitar was pretty much done and the fact that I'm pretty sure I heard his eyes roll heavenward for patience with amateur guitar hacks and their last-minute brainstorms, he displayed considerable aplomb saying, "Lemme check and see if we have a piece of scrap redwood to use."

He found one with an hour.

Tain't better service nowhere!
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nikon4004
Posted 2010-06-10 7:37 PM (#370092 - in reply to #370069)
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Patch....
OMG AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beautiful, and I bet is sounds better than is look, (If that is possible)

Congrats!!!!!!!


Steve
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RNickels
Posted 2010-06-10 7:45 PM (#370093 - in reply to #370069)
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Amazing! I remember hearing about this one over the phone and thinking how great it would come out... still didn't prep me for those pics! Nicely done!
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Patch
Posted 2010-06-10 7:49 PM (#370094 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Traditional Ovation fan or LX bracing?
I just finished fishing around with my fingers as my little mirror is at work. It's A-braced. (My favorite. How did they know? )

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TRboy
Posted 2010-06-10 7:58 PM (#370095 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by Patch:
....please be aware that the strings were wound like that at the factory....
Looks like someone at the factory needs to be "trained" in the proper way to string a slothead! :eek:
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-06-10 8:04 PM (#370096 - in reply to #370069)
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SWEET!!!!!!
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PEZ
Posted 2010-06-11 2:29 AM (#370097 - in reply to #370069)
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Holy (explitive deleted) !!!!!!
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povation
Posted 2010-06-11 3:05 AM (#370098 - in reply to #370069)
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Very nice.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2010-06-11 6:40 AM (#370099 - in reply to #370069)
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Nice.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-06-11 8:32 AM (#370100 - in reply to #370069)
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The guitars are strung by Fidelco clients.

Nice looking combo of woods. Congrats.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-06-11 8:38 AM (#370101 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by Patch:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Traditional Ovation fan or LX bracing?
I just finished fishing around with my fingers as my little mirror is at work. It's A-braced. (My favorite. How did they know? )

I don't think I've ever seen an A braced nylon string before. But I'm open to the concept. A bracing works so well on steel strings.

I gotta play that thing someday. Or maybe not. Wouldn't want to grow dissatisfied with my Custom 1773LX......
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G8r
Posted 2010-06-11 9:07 AM (#370102 - in reply to #370069)
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Unique and beautiful. Would love to hear how it sound. Nice custom job there, congrats.
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Damon67
Posted 2010-06-11 9:19 AM (#370103 - in reply to #370069)
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Very nice Patch. That one's unique to you for sure.
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Patch
Posted 2010-06-11 1:00 PM (#370104 - in reply to #370069)
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I asked this on the AGF as well.

"I've got to admit, the more I think about it, the more I think I'll need to reinforce the leading edge of the bridge to prevent grooving. (I don't like ball-end nylon strings because there is still a small part of me that stubbornly clings to tradition, and I never know when it will rear its withered little head.) I'm just not sure the best way to do it. Suggestions?"
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AlanM
Posted 2010-06-11 1:06 PM (#370105 - in reply to #370069)
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Just absolutely gorgeous!
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nikon4004
Posted 2010-06-11 1:30 PM (#370106 - in reply to #370069)
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Ship it to Mwoody and have him grove the front edge and inlay some carbonfiber strands in epoxy on the edge. YOu MIIGHT even get it back someday........


Steve
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-06-11 2:21 PM (#370107 - in reply to #370069)
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Wow Patch! That is beautiful! Definitely calendar material there.
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Patch
Posted 2010-06-11 2:34 PM (#370108 - in reply to #370069)
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I hope to take better pics for the calendar than these...

...if you define "better" as "winding the strings right."

See, it bugs me too. Just not enough to change out brand new strings. :p ;)
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-06-11 2:51 PM (#370109 - in reply to #370069)
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You know this is just a fine example of what Ovation can produce. Wouldn't you like to see a one of these along with an Adamas or 2 in your local high end guitar store. I just got to believe they would sell... but then again I bought Compuware stock at $30.
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Posted 2010-06-12 3:20 AM (#370110 - in reply to #370069)
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Patch .... SWEET.TISSIMA.
Congrats for your new gorgeous baby !
R.
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NostrAdamas
Posted 2010-06-12 4:59 AM (#370111 - in reply to #370069)
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shouldnt the trc be recessed?
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AlanM
Posted 2010-06-12 8:13 AM (#370112 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
You know this is just a fine example of what Ovation can produce. Wouldn't you like to see a one of these along with an Adamas or 2 in your local high end guitar store. I just got to believe they would sell... but then again I bought Compuware stock at $30.
My sentiments exactly...the guitar store most local to me is Daddy's Junky Music, and I have had conversations with them about why they have been going increasingly low-end. Invariably the answer is that the market's tough out there, they don't sell, etc. But they DO take them occasionally in trade, and I have seen guitars from $1,500 to $2,500 appear in there from trade-ins. THOSE guitars RARELY last there more than a week.

I have to believe that Patch's gorgeous custom job would be gone just as soon as the first shopper able to swing it and play it, saw it.
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Patch
Posted 2010-06-12 12:38 PM (#370113 - in reply to #370069)
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Originally posted by NostrAdamas:
shouldnt the trc be recessed?
I'm not sure what you mean by recessed? Inlaid in some way?

I swiped the idea from the 2002 collectors which has a cool looking cherry TRC to match its top. John found precisely what I wanted. Truly, I couldn't be more pleased.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2010-06-12 9:18 PM (#370114 - in reply to #370069)
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Personally, I wouldn't worry about grooving the bridge. It's the nature of the beast.

It's an absolute beauty Patch. Kudos to you and the mothership.
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Posted 2010-06-15 9:55 AM (#370115 - in reply to #370069)
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Beautiful!

I'm not sure of that perch, though!!! YIkes!

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Patch
Posted 2010-06-15 10:29 AM (#370116 - in reply to #370069)
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I wondered how long it would take someone to notice that. I've never taken pictures so fast in my life. :D
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Posted 2010-06-16 11:52 AM (#370117 - in reply to #370069)
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Hello Patch,
A beautiful piece of craftsmanship you have, I wish you lived around the corner. I have a set of D'Addario J33 folk nylon ball ends. We could have a cuppa and talk arthritic knuckle talk.
Regards
Jim
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