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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | IMHO, arguably TWO of the BEST Rhythm players in rock history.
Pete Townshend of The Who
Alex Lifeson of RUSH |
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Location: Flahdaw | Keith Richards |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Alex Trebec: "I'm sorry players, the correct answer is, 'Who is John Lennon?" |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Good thing you said "arguably" because it certainly is. Just too many to list. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I don't know how you could even answer that question.
Sort of like asking who is the best Hi Hat player. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Bob Weir |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
who is the best Hi Hat player. Norm Finklebaum |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Loved Bruce Springsteen and Elvis Costello playing rhythm for Roy Orbison's Black and White Night concert. Rhythm players deserve more credit than they typically receive. I recall listening to an interview with Emmylou Harris all about the value of a good rhythm player. Without it, a song lacks backbone. I learned this the hard way while laying tracks on a looper in a live situation. The rhythm tracks have to be precise and strong. |
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Location: south east Michigan | That Orbison show was a once in a lifetime thing.
Everyone backing him up was a headliner in their own right.
And of course I'm partial to Townsend's rhythm style. No secret there. Pull up some of his solo acoustic work on YouTube. |
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Location: USA | I'd have to say Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix, both who are known for their lead playing but play some out of this world rhythm. What has always gotten me about Purple Haze for example is the verse rhythm, the things Jimi Hendrix does with the G and A barre chords are challenging. I think Pete Townsend is a good rhythm player, but that could also be because I've never really seen him as much of a lead guitar player. If that makes sense. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by ScienceFriction:
I think Pete Townsend is a good rhythm player, but that could also be because I've never really seen him as much of a lead guitar player. If that makes sense. Perfect sense which why I mentioned Townshend and Lifeson. I think that the intricate/complex rhythms that they play make the songs stand out in lieu of the ability to play lead. |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | My vote goes to the very under-rated George Kooymans from the great Dutch band, GOLDEN EARRING.
Very interesting player, but especially in his use of off-time rhythm chording.
The average rock fan in North America only knows GOLDEN EARRING from the AM-radio edit of "Radar Love", but they have been around for 45 years and have been a pop band (ala The Beatles...), a psych band, a prog band (one of the best!!) as well as a very interesting acoustic group on their numerous unplugged albums.
Check 'em out!! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Avatar4550:
they have been around for 45 years and have been a pop band (ala The Beatles...), a psych band, a prog band (one of the best!!) as well as a very interesting acoustic group on their numerous unplugged albums.
Check 'em out!! gotta few "listener" recommendations? |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | My favourite albums from the band come from the period when they were transitioning from a psych-y type of group into a conceptual prog band.
These albums include... "Eight Miles High" (1969) (with one of the best covers ever done of the Byrds classic...), "Golden Earring" (1970) (commonly known as ''Wall Of Dolls''), "Seven Tears" (1971) & "Together" (1972).
Most rock fans are at least passingly familiar with "Moontan" (1974) (the European & N.A. releases are substantially different albums track-wise...). This is one of the greatest albums of all-time, IMHO.
Also worthy of a listen were the three albums that followed including "Switch" (1975) (which includes excellent keyboard player Robert Jan Stips, from the group SUPERSISTER), "To The Hilt" (1976), & "Contraband" (1976) (which was released in N.A. as "Mad Love" with a different cover and a slightly altered track list...).
Fans of the band will also know that they featured an absolutely scary-tight rhythm section in bassist Rinus Gerritson (very lead-line oriented style...) and jazzy drummer Cesar Zuiderwijk.
I absolutely LOVE the band (I guess that's obvious :D ) |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | No, that Canadian reserve always confuses 'em.... ;)
So basically it's a matter of knowing which albums to aVoid, if I read you right? |
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Location: Tennessee | The Naked Truth. It's a live album from the early 90's. |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | They have 50 or 60 albums out (I've actually lost count...), but any one of them makes an interesting listen for the true rock afficionado.
It's just a matter of what style you are into.
My thing is prog (queue prog-geek jokes...), so "Moontan" and "Switch" are definitely on my top-ten 'Desert Island' discs.
GE is one the few bands I'm into that would get multiple places on that list... and I have over 10,000 titles in my various collections, so that says something about the band. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | My fav progrock band of the recent ilk is Spock's Beard...specially the first 3-4 albums with the original lineup.
Older bands, Gentle Giant was/is still one of my favs.
Also been listening to a lot of Porcupine Tree, Flower Kings, Proto-Kaw, GlassHammer and IQ. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | THIS is one of my favorite aspects of this place... discovering new (old) music. Stephen - I did pick up one of the Gentle Giant (Gentle Giant) CDs after the black mountain jam. I'm still getting to know it. I like it but can't say where it fits in yet in my progrock standings. I also have several of the Spock's Beard CDs based on your recommendation and I listen to them regularly.
Have you ever listened to Gamalon? I came across them after stumbling across Nora Bucci.
I would recommend both of these:
Gamalon - Gamalon
Nora Bucci - Tales of a Dream
John - I'll give Golden Earring a try. I'm running through the Itunes sound clips right now. You can't base much on a 30 second clip, but at least it gives some flavors to choose from. |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | GENTLE GIANT are one of my all-time faves as well (have all of their stuff...). A totally unique band...
SPOCK'S BEARD also a neo-prog fave. A lot of fans jumped ship when Neal Morse left, but I got their new one " X " yesterday and have heard really good things about it. They seem to be the 'it' band in neo-prog circles at the moment with lots of chatter on various forums.
OT... Although rhythm guitar isn't what you normally think of when you discuss prog, Steve Howe should be mentioned as well.
Have seen him live multiple times and the man is just a scary guitar technician!! To switch from be-bop style jazz into classical into in-your-face prog with such ease, the whole time laying down amazing rhythm tracks that allow Chris Squire and keyboard-player-de-jour to shine on top... a true artist!! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | CL
try to find "edge of twilight" for a great overview of Gentle Giant's music.
I have the Ltd release edition of SB's "X" that contains the song with all the names of all the contributors to help defray the cost of the recordings.....FU*&^ING BRILLIANT SONG!
Forgot about Steve Howe but he is definitely a master rhythm player who can also play some wicked lead. |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by stephent28:
Alex Lifeson of RUSH By far my greatest influence on guitar. I like to think of his work in terms of layers and textures. On a recnet recording I needed to change up the chorus from some boring power chords to something different. I actually thought in my mind 'what would Alex do?', and a few simple 3 note appregios just popped out in a similar style to Alex's 'Entre Nous'.
If you haven't heard the last album 'Snakes and Arrows', it's a great example of his 'textures' and maybe even a step back to more of his blues roots as well. |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by stephent28:
...in lieu of the ability to play lead. Pete yeah, but Alex is one heluva soloist. I mean really, I could list dozens of amazing solos he's done, but you only need to hear 'La Villa Strangiato' (Sp?) to hear what he's capable of. |
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Location: Jet City | I'll add Stone Gossard to the list too. He's the glue that holds Pearl Jam together. |
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Location: chicago | Underated for sure,1.)Eddie Van Halen,and pete townshend. |
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Location: Chicago | Ditto on EVH: Unchained, Light up the Sky and a host of bootlegs (House of Pain, Voodoo Queen) |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | On of the Stones (forget which one), in a guitar book I have, said something like the following.
"There's no such thing as a rhythm guitar player or a lead guitar player. You can't go into a shop and buy a Lead Guitar. You are a guitar player, and you play a guitar."
I think the best 'rhythm guitar players' are the ones who are the only guitar player in a band. Chuck Berry, Rory Gallagher, Jimi Hendrix... |
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