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Location: nashville | Found a 1617 but it needs some work. It is a late 77 early 78 model per the ser. number w/ a trust rod cover. Can't remember the color of the label. Is this a A braced or VT braced. and does trust rod cover = K Bar or not?
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | 1617 Legend –
Body Type: Deep Bowl
Top: Sitka Spruce AAA
Bracing: Ovation A
Scale Length: 25 1/4"
Fretboard: Ebony, Ivory Binding
Fret Inlay: 15 Pearl
Bridge: Walnut
Pickup: Piezoelectric
Nutwidth: 1 11/16"
Machines: Deluxe 24k Gold Plated
Truss rod cover = no K Bar |
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Location: SoCal | It's VT braced (VT-11?). A bracing didn't come into the Legend line until sometime in '79-80, Except for the custom legends, and a couple of special models.
I've never thought the VT braced guitars sounded good at all, but Dobrov disagrees with me and I've played a Legend from the mid 1970's that sounded very good..... |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | I was about to disagree with you Paul because I thought ALL Legends were "A" braced. My 1619 CL sure was.
I checked my '74 1617 with a mirror and... DAM, you're right!
i am humbled. |
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| I've leaned never to doubt Paul when it comes to technical specs and history of Legends... |
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Location: SoCal | There's a lot of stuff you guys should never doubt me on. Weas has learned that over the years. Unfortunately, most of it is trival b.s. that makes no difference to anybody.
A 20-30 year old A braced Legend is a wonderful guitar. They should be prized by players much more than they are.
As to the important stuff? Let's not go there..... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cholloway:
I was about to disagree with you Paul because I thought ALL Legends were "A" braced. My 1619 CL sure was. Your 1619 is a CUSTOM legend. Those are A braced. Legends went from X to A to VT to A to X over the course of 40 years (Moddy will correct me if I am wrong about this). Basically gone full circle or put another way, never should have screwed with a good thing in the first place.
How the guitar SOUNDS is more important than how it is SPEC'ed. |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
How the guitar SOUNDS is more important than how it is SPEC'ed. That's why I was ready to say "Au contraire".
Mine sounds pretty darn good... to me! |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Originally posted by cholloway:
I was about to disagree with you Paul because I thought ALL Legends were "A" braced. My 1619 CL sure was. Your 1619 is a CUSTOM legend. Those are A braced. Legends went from X to A to VT to A to X over the course of 40 years (Moddy will correct me if I am wrong about this). Basically gone full circle or put another way, never should have screwed with a good thing in the first place.
How the guitar SOUNDS is more important than how it is SPEC'ed.
Not nit picking, how it sounds (especially to you!) is the most important factor.... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | and it's "Moody", not "Moddy". Is there a reason that nitpicking and nitwit both start with "nit"? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
and it's "Moody", not "Moddy". That's not necessarily true. |
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | I 've old electronics, a pickup, too. You have the choice between the stack knob version or the single knob, only volume control. I don't want any charge for it, except the shipping costs, $20,00.
If you are interested,please PM me.
Bernie |
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Location: closely held secret | Moddy's a pitnicker. |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
A bracing didn't come into the Legend line until sometime in '79-80, Except for the custom legends, and a couple of special models. Well, maybe my 1617 has been rebuilt or something.
S/N: 019988
Definitely "A" braced. |
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Location: SoCal | Ya know, in about 1974, from docs posted on the ning site by Talbot Rickard, there were about 50 A braced Legends built. Maybe you've got one of those. Beyond that speculation, I don't know... |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Thanks for the info moody - that's really good to know.
One of 50 is fun to speculate; probably could never prove it but still fun to think about. |
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Location: SoCal | Take a look at this.....
http://ovationfanclub.ning.com/photo/albums/2194223:Album:9493 |
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Location: Huntington Beach | That's some fascinating reading Paul. I, for one, prefer the VT bracing sound of my '74 1117 and '77 1617 over comparable A-braced models. In general, and based on my playing style, I find the As are bassier and the VTs are more balanced. Also, we tend to forget the influence that our fingers, fingernail or pick, and body contact with the instrument has on our perception of "the sound". Another great feature of the older Legends is the neck. Its just a tad shallower than more recent models although not as player friendly above the 14th. |
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Location: nashville | Thanks for all the great imput. With Bernie's generous offer this is looking like a no brainer if I can avoid a neck reset. I really can't tell alot about the sound becase the strings are shot and the pawn shop was noise. In my perfect world I would like an A braced just becase my balladeer is vt. However thier does seem to be a A braced bias. |
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