Elite T - what's so good about it?
dweezil
Posted 2008-05-07 5:43 AM (#40728)
Subject: Elite T - what's so good about it?


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Hi,

I am a *very* happy owner of a Elite Special S868 and soon to be picking up my 6778 LX and was just wondering why people seem to be so crazed about the Elite T, (1868 or 2078 or otherwise).

Would you say it would produce a nicer (warmer more woody sound) to either of the above?

Thanks...
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-05-07 5:54 AM (#40729 - in reply to #40728)
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I think there's something magical about the sound produced by multi-soundhole Ovations with bass-side-only holes. I have an Adamas 1581 that produces that sound.

I think the thing about the T is that it gives you that sound in such an inexpensive package. If you're familiar with the Law of Diminishing Returns, it's amazing that,in this case, it happens at around $650.

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dweezil
Posted 2008-05-07 6:01 AM (#40730 - in reply to #40728)
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Righto, ta.

Could I not just plug up my treble holes on me Elite Special or Elite to get the same tone? Or is there a different bracing thang going on inside too?
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-05-07 6:04 AM (#40731 - in reply to #40728)
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The bracing is the same. I had a Std Elite with a mid-depth bowl And I have a set of Airlocks. When I used them it didn't produce the same bassy sound that the T does.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-05-07 6:17 AM (#40732 - in reply to #40728)
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It certainly seems to have 'stealth' attributes, I reckon the wife might not even notice it :-)
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dweezil
Posted 2008-05-07 6:40 AM (#40733 - in reply to #40728)
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I wonder if it's different enough to justify a purchase...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-05-07 6:44 AM (#40734 - in reply to #40728)
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It's not just the soundholes, the other thing that influences the tone of the T's is that the textured bowl-paint finish is vey thin and light compared to a regular finish.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-05-07 8:53 AM (#40735 - in reply to #40728)
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So what would you be prepared to pay for a good condition 2nd hand 1778T?
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-05-07 8:56 AM (#40736 - in reply to #40728)
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$485.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-05-07 9:01 AM (#40737 - in reply to #40728)
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dweezil
Posted 2008-05-07 9:01 AM (#40738 - in reply to #40728)
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ho hum....
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-05-07 9:04 AM (#40739 - in reply to #40728)
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I have a regular 1778T, and one with the Flame Top.
The Flame top has different paint, an the clear finish over that.
It definitely sounds different.
Not to hurt the Burning T's feelings... But the straight black sounds better.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-05-07 9:05 AM (#40740 - in reply to #40728)
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On one of the tours I asked Darren, design engineer at the Mothership, about the EliteT.
He said the guitar turned out far better than he had hoped but he was not exactly sure why.
Dweezil... if you did not know, the purpose of the EliteT was to build a USA made, solid top guitar for the lowest possible price.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-05-07 9:07 AM (#40741 - in reply to #40728)
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Interesting, no I didn't know...
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xnoel
Posted 2008-05-07 3:19 PM (#40742 - in reply to #40728)
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It also has a great neck, more like an electric.
Mine has a nice flame figure to it.
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an4340
Posted 2008-05-07 10:28 PM (#40743 - in reply to #40728)
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Value for money.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-05-08 4:16 AM (#40744 - in reply to #40728)
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Right, think I'll pass, have yet to play like a master on my 2 Ovations....Once I have achieved that then perhaps it'll be time...
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-05-08 7:14 PM (#40745 - in reply to #40728)
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I was at GC at lunch today, and they had one Elite T, for $879. I asked the guy if they planned to come down like everyone else. He had no clue.

Also they had one S771 Cedar, for $699. I think I did well not to have bought my Ovations there.
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Beal
Posted 2008-05-08 7:46 PM (#40746 - in reply to #40728)
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people just like the T.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-05-09 12:44 AM (#40747 - in reply to #40728)
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Originally posted by dweezil:
So what would you be prepared to pay for a good condition 2nd hand 1778T?
Time to admit my Stupidity... I paid $660 for one, and a gigbag. :mad:
(I paid less for the Flame T... Heck, I paid less for the 2058T!)
But it is a Great sounding guitar! :D
And I really like the OP-30.


This is what inspired me to participate in the "EliteT April Black Sale."
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muzza
Posted 2008-05-09 9:11 AM (#40748 - in reply to #40728)
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I'm tracking a potential 1778T project but they won't ship to Australia. If they allow me to bid, and I win, could someone offer it some accomodation for a few months until my cuzzin returns from the States?

Thought I'd better get first dibs this time, before Woody wakes up and AJ gets back from the pub.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-09 9:31 AM (#40749 - in reply to #40728)
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If your cuzzin's going thru the Metro NY area, I'll "sit" it for ya' . . .
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-05-09 9:40 AM (#40750 - in reply to #40728)
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Originally posted by cliff:
If your cuzzin's going thru the Metro NY area, I'll "sit" it for ya' . . .
or the Tampa Bay FL area, I can provide it temporary shelter.
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-09 10:04 AM (#40751 - in reply to #40728)
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Would the warranty apply if this was purchaced as new? If so send it back to the mothership and pick it up/have it delivered locally to the baby sitter of your choosing when done.
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-09 10:07 AM (#40752 - in reply to #40728)
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I could probably drive it to the factory while visiting my sister in law. She is in West Hartford not to far from the mothership.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-09 10:11 AM (#40753 - in reply to #40728)
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Then why do you always get lost there?
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-09 10:13 AM (#40754 - in reply to #40728)
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Muzzlitebeer,
Mapquest show that she is 19 miles from the mothership. Let me know if I can help you with this.
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-09 10:15 AM (#40755 - in reply to #40728)
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Wabbit,
GPS loses satellite reception in the area. Remember how much fun it was when that happened? Especially in the dark.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-05-09 10:16 AM (#40756 - in reply to #40728)
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...or if your cuz is flying through Atlanta, I can take it.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-09 10:17 AM (#40757 - in reply to #40728)
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". . . Mapquest show that she is 19 miles from the mothership . . ."

That means it's REALLY 37 miles . .
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-09 10:19 AM (#40758 - in reply to #40728)
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True
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-09 10:27 AM (#40759 - in reply to #40728)
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Phil, do you still use your GPS to get to work? :D
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-09 10:38 AM (#40760 - in reply to #40728)
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He uses GPS t'get to the bathroom . . .
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-09 10:40 AM (#40761 - in reply to #40728)
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I plug it in sometines just to keep the GPS battery charged. :eek: GPS= Gotto Piss and Sh@t.
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muzza
Posted 2008-05-09 6:30 PM (#40762 - in reply to #40728)
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Originally posted by cliff:
If your cuzzin's going thru the Metro NY area, I'll "sit" it for ya' . . .
Thanks Cliff, email sent.

Thanks too, Phil. I now know where your sister lives, but where do YOU live?
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-09 7:16 PM (#40763 - in reply to #40728)
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Muzz,
Rego Park is in the borough of Queens. I'm about 12 miles from Ground Zero.
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muzza
Posted 2008-05-09 7:20 PM (#40764 - in reply to #40728)
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Thanks Phil, but I'm going to have to pass on this one now. It's 9am over here and we're going out for the day. I was awaiting another response from the seller before I committed to buy.

It would've been good - my cousin will be in NY in July and I would have saved a fortune on shipping.
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Phil Wong
Posted 2008-05-10 11:11 AM (#40765 - in reply to #40728)
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Muzz,
Like you said in the other thread, timing is everything. My offer doesn't expire. If another deal comes up let me know.
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