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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | was experimenting this morning with a digitech vocalist live2 harmonizer. my entire family is down with severe colds and respiratory distress from the volcanic fog going on currently, but i braved through this anyway, just for "fun":
highway in the sun |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Nice Randy.
I think I want one of these.
Please tell me about the adjustment options. What do the knobs change? |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | thanks, brad. i am still struggling vocally and some of the playback was as painful listening to as it was to sing but the VL2 is a nice, economical unit, nevertheless.
here's the link for the manual download so you can view the adjustment options right from the source:
digitech VL2 manual |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Nice song , Mr.Lanaki Sir , you have a strong "playful" voice ,but does that vocalist increase sibilance..?..or was it the mic. ( sm 58 ? ) which could cause that too..
Vic
..did enjoy the song tho`.. :) |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Hot day-um, another thumb strummer! I'm not alone...
Nice 'gritty' vogal! :D |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | i'll have to look up "sibilance", vic and get back with you on that. (the mic is a shure beta 58A) i don't have a PA system here so the guitar and vocals were going thru my marshall amp. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | adding/enhancing a "sh"-sound to the vocals . . .
I kinda' detected more of a "doubling" than harmony . . . was it set for just a single harmony??
When y'get a chance, try punching the "harmony" in/out on the choruses t'give a bit of a comparison . . .
NiceTune. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | "sibilance" can be handled by tweaking the controls a bit more. like i said, it was entirely experimental. the sound was being picked up by a compact video cam. no "ideal" sonic reproduction going on here. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | Originally posted by cliff:
adding/enhancing a "sh"-sound to the vocals . . .
I kinda' detected more of a "doubling" than harmony . . . was it set for just a single harmony??
When y'get a chance, try punching the "harmony" in/out on the choruses t'give a bit of a comparison . . .
NiceTune. cliff, my head is so full of shhhnot i ain't hearing so well. and you are correct, i had it set on a single high harmony and a unison.
i just got the thing and have to find time to play with it some more. after i made the video clip, i went back and cut the harmony on the first half of the lead verses. it's a nicer effect. after i tweak this thing and get my head cleared a bit, i'll tape the new and hopefully improved version.
thanks! |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Thanks for clearing that up , I`ve been thinking about getting something like it , but I dunno..
Vic |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | vic, i think what was going on is that i had the reverb up past mid on my amp and also on the VL2. i was getting overkill and shoulda turned down the amp's reverb. |
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 486
Location: North Carolina | Originally posted by HumblePie aka Solid Top:
I`ve been thinking about getting something like it , but I dunno..
Vic Vic, get it. I was on the fence about these things for a long time. I got one and I love it. |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Nice job on the song. The controls do take a little bit of tweaking to get the sound right. One thing that I noticed is that you need to pay attention to the "mic gain" control. If that is too high, it produces a slightly distorted sound. Almost as if your signal was clipping. Once I got that sorted out, my problems were solved.
I took it out on a gig on Friday and got some very positive feedback from the staff at the venue. The bartender, who is a very nice kid, was very into it. I was messing around with it at home and got a very nice CSN sound by setting the harmony a third and a fifth above my voice. It would be a "bit much" for a gig, but it sure is a lot of fun.
Another added benefit (for me) is that it's forcing me to be more disciplined with my vocals as the unit will duplicate and highlight mistakes. You also need to be sure that your guitar is in tune because the unit "listens" to the chords that you're playing in order to determine the proper key. All in all, I'm very happy with it so far. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | thanks john. i had left the mic gain control on the back of the unit set as it was outta the box, at about midway. didn't even think about tweaking it any. the unit does accentuate the flat and sharp sung notes and i have been getting plenty of those lately. it is a fun unit and much better than the first digitech vocalist workstation i owned a couple years ago. at least the harmonies sound human on this one. the unit does have a built-in tuner which is in sync with the harmony processor. it seems accurately calibrated to 440. |
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Joined: February 2008 Posts: 247
Location: Delaware | Randy, glad to hear you decided on a harmony processer and picked one up. Once I got my tc helicon voicelive tweaked right, it almost seemed to boost my vocal confidence in myself, and made singing a bit more fun ( not nessecarily for the people having to hear it though !! ). Try different settings, experiment with it, have fun, post more songs. See Ya !! |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | well, it's a bit later in the day and the snot levels have subsided somewhat. now that i can hear better, i'm thinkin', "what was i thinkin'?" posting this rather embarassing clip. it hurts to listen to it and i didn't do any justice to a great song. i need to pull the clip and save myself further tomatoes. |
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 Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Very Nice, Randy.
Don't think that thing would help my voice.
But it sounds Real Good for you. |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 2241
Location: Simpsonville, SC | That was nice Randy. If you had not posted it, you would not have learned a few tricks. Keep it up, can't wait for the next version! |
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 Joined: August 2007 Posts: 1008
Location: Tuscany, Italy | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Hot day-um, another thumb strummer! I'm not alone...
Nice 'gritty' vogal! :D May I join the "club" of thumb strummer ?
I can't use a pic at all.
Well done Randy !! I put your video into my favourite YTube list.
Riccardo |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | thanks for the support, guys.
i'm not usually a thumb strummer but there's something about the T that i like better with the thumb. at the beginning of the song you can also hear some brush strums. |
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 Joined: March 2004 Posts: 1388
Location: Paris/France | Very nice !!
J :) |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | What do these things sell for?? . . . |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | $299.00 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | $277.00 shipped |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by lanaki:
$277.00 shipped Well la-di-da! :p |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | :D |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | hey john,
it usually costs me an extra arm or leg to get things in hawaii due to shipping costs. i got all excited to find an eBay seller who included the cost of shipping, even to hawaii, in the BIN price. so i hadtabragabit. |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Wow, you did get a good deal, PLUS you get to live in Hawaii. Life is good! |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I'm looking over the manual Randy.
But I have a request.
Next time you fire it up, please try a capo in couple places and see if the unit has trouble reading the guitar.
We capo up, and sometimes tune down to D#.
Maybe see if it reads a longneck. (I assume you have one) |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | will do, brad. unless someone beats me to it. i don't have a longneck though. i'll report back asap. |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I'm looking over the manual Randy.
But I have a request.
Next time you fire it up, please try a capo in couple places and see if the unit has trouble reading the guitar.
We capo up, and sometimes tune down to D#.
Maybe see if it reads a longneck. (I assume you have one) I've used it with a capo in several positions and with a Eb tuning. No problems. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | yup. john is right on! no capo problems with this unit brad. |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Thanks.
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What a great membership.
We got a pretty good thing goin' here at the OFC. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332
Location: Bluffton, SC | "I've used it with a capo in several positions and with a Eb tuning. No problems."
Yeah, that's all well and good but Brad's question was if it was ok at D# tuning. |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Wease... you gotta make it to the next clinic there pal. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332
Location: Bluffton, SC | :D |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by Weaser P:
"I've used it with a capo in several positions and with a Eb tuning. No problems."
Yeah, that's all well and good but Brad's question was if it was ok at D# tuning. :D |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5576
Location: big island | brad, i'm confident you will be thrilled to know the VL2 also works with an ukulele. |
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