AAAAARRRRGGGGG! 1537...
Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-27 10:43 PM (#362124)
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Fell off the wall. Must not have been put back properly. This hurts!





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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-10-27 10:47 PM (#362125 - in reply to #362124)
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Zilla, I feel your pain...so sorry...time to call the MS...best wishes...
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G8r
Posted 2010-10-27 11:09 PM (#362126 - in reply to #362124)
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oh, shit...
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cholloway
Posted 2010-10-27 11:23 PM (#362127 - in reply to #362124)
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In my best Mr. Bill voice...
OHHHH NOOOOOooooooo!!!

is there anyway you can blame it on the dog?
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muzza
Posted 2010-10-28 1:26 AM (#362128 - in reply to #362124)
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That wall it fell from...
...was it on the second floor above a stairwell?
Looks like it fell a looooong way.
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Meuti
Posted 2010-10-28 2:15 AM (#362129 - in reply to #362124)
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Ouch :(
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2010-10-28 4:26 AM (#362130 - in reply to #362124)
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I feel so bad for you.
Does your homeowner's ins by chance cover that sort of thing?
I sure hope so, man, that just makes you want to be sick.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-10-28 4:59 AM (#362131 - in reply to #362124)
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:eek: That hurts just looking at it! :eek:
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BT717
Posted 2010-10-28 5:39 AM (#362132 - in reply to #362124)
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Ohhhh Man!!! That sucks Zilla!
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-10-28 6:24 AM (#362133 - in reply to #362124)
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Sorry Steve. Were you in the room when it happened, or did you just come in and find it lying on the floor screaming in pain?
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-10-28 6:38 AM (#362134 - in reply to #362124)
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awful... just awful...
On the plus side, think of what a great job Kim & the boys will do on it.
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KKeller
Posted 2010-10-28 6:46 AM (#362135 - in reply to #362124)
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Ouch!

We got your back, shoot me an email.

Kim
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-28 7:21 AM (#362136 - in reply to #362124)
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Could someone please PM me Kim's email address?
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-10-28 7:34 AM (#362137 - in reply to #362124)
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Ooo, that's not fun. Thankfully, you've got connections.
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G8r
Posted 2010-10-28 8:12 AM (#362138 - in reply to #362124)
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Originally posted by Designzilla:
Could someone please PM me Kim's email address?
check your email
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kotadawg
Posted 2010-10-28 8:13 AM (#362139 - in reply to #362124)
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Originally posted by G8r:
oh, shit...
+1
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seesquare
Posted 2010-10-28 8:38 AM (#362140 - in reply to #362124)
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+2.
Even the BFLG has ethics; send it to The Wizards.
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MWoody
Posted 2010-10-28 8:49 AM (#362141 - in reply to #362124)
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Horrific...
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-10-28 9:11 AM (#362142 - in reply to #362124)
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What G8r said. That makes me think I need to check the integrity of all my hangers this weekend, and periodically thereafter.
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Patch
Posted 2010-10-28 9:32 AM (#362143 - in reply to #362124)
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Good luck 'Zilla. And please don't use those pics for the calendar OK? It would make for a very depressing month.

If I may ask, exactly how did it fall? Did the hangar come loose? Did it slip off the hangar somehow or what? I'm only asking for those of us that have wall hangars ourselves, just in case there's a detail we may have overlooked.

Whatever the case, if John and KK have your back, this will someday be just an unpleasant memory.

Again, best of luck!
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standing
Posted 2010-10-28 11:31 AM (#362144 - in reply to #362124)
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Halloween season or not, those are the most gruesome images I've seen in a while… Sorry to hear about the accident, sounds like a remedy is in the making though… good luck…

Despite having wall hangers and guitar racks available, I tend to keep my best guitars in their cases, fearing that children, friends of children, or more likely my own clumsiness might knock one (or more) down if I leave them out for prolonged periods of time.

You just validated my paranoia…
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bvince
Posted 2010-10-28 11:54 AM (#362145 - in reply to #362124)
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Heartbreaking ...

but it DOES look like something the MS will be able to repair.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2010-10-28 12:02 PM (#362146 - in reply to #362124)
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I actually have tears in my eyes!
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-28 12:29 PM (#362147 - in reply to #362124)
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Thanks for the condolences. The mishap was not a failure of the hanger. The only thing I can think of is human error, Whenever I put a guitar back on the hanger, I check to make sure it is seated securely. But the last time I played this guitar was Monday morning before work and I may have been a bit rushed and not fully checked it's fit on the hanger.

It's still a mystery though, last night I tried to find a way it would fit on the hanger and not fall immediately. Still can't figure it out but it must have been the way I put it on the hanger.

My son and daughter were in the next room and heard it fall. There was no one in the room at the time. It fell from about 5 feet onto hardwood floor. Weird, and sad.
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PEZ
Posted 2010-10-28 12:43 PM (#362148 - in reply to #362124)
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Call the mothership.....
they fix bo bo
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standing
Posted 2010-10-28 2:11 PM (#362149 - in reply to #362124)
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What kind of hanger was it on?
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2010-10-28 7:03 PM (#362150 - in reply to #362124)
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My condolences.
Have them save the body for you. They make nice conversation pieces.

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Capo Guy
Posted 2010-10-28 8:06 PM (#362151 - in reply to #362124)
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Major Ouch. The gang at the factory can fix it.
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cholloway
Posted 2010-10-28 8:09 PM (#362152 - in reply to #362124)
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Jonmark, that actually looks like an undamaged body. Stripped, but undamaged.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2010-10-28 8:29 PM (#362153 - in reply to #362124)
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Long story short, it didn't make it into the hotel with the rest of the instruments one sub freezing night in Kansas... top split wide open in three places. The good folks in Connecticut made it all better though.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-10-28 8:39 PM (#362154 - in reply to #362124)
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Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Long story short, it didn't make it into the hotel with the rest of the instruments one sub freezing night in Kansas... top split wide open in three places. The good folks in Connecticut made it all better though.
They're not bad at that.....
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-28 9:15 PM (#362155 - in reply to #362124)
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I guess I'm going to get it fixed, but now I'm on the other side of the "is it still a 1537, if all that's left is the neck" situation.

There just isn't anything that is made like a 1537, or sounds like one...
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-10-28 9:24 PM (#362156 - in reply to #362124)
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As one who has had one rebuilt, I would make the case that it IS still a 1537. A NEW 1537. Different? Definitely. But I've had my totally rebuilt 1537 for about three years now and I'm really enjoying listening to it open up (and I would also say that due to the thinner materials used today, it probably opens up more quickly). Do it. Play it. It's well worth it.
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-28 10:08 PM (#362157 - in reply to #362124)
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Thanks Weas. That helps a bit.
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hwebster
Posted 2010-10-28 11:10 PM (#362158 - in reply to #362124)
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Sorry to see what happened. I Know the feeling
:( when you find out that the aged wood top broke! Sure you know by now what the outcome of the repairs are going to be.

Hector
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Avatar4550
Posted 2010-10-29 12:02 AM (#362159 - in reply to #362124)
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see below...
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Avatar4550
Posted 2010-10-29 12:03 AM (#362160 - in reply to #362124)
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Originally posted by standing:
Despite having wall hangers and guitar racks available, I tend to keep my best guitars in their cases, fearing that children, friends of children, or more likely my own clumsiness might knock one (or more) down if I leave them out for prolonged periods of time.

You just validated my paranoia…
+1

Have never been much of a fan of hanging guitars on walls and that set of brutal pictures won't help to change that. Absolutely heartbreaking...

I am so paranoid about wall hangers that when I take a guitar down off the wall in a shop, I find myself going back three times just to be 110% sure that the arms have closed... that it's actually anchored to the wall...

Anybody else do that as well?
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-10-29 3:43 AM (#362161 - in reply to #362124)
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Stuff happens. With the Hercules hangers I have, you know right away whether it's in and locked or not. Sometimes weird things happen to your guitars. Ask Moody. Guitars that are out get played. I've seen a lot of dinged up tops from case bites, too ... so there you go.

The good thing about Mother is that they know how to make them just like the old ones and they are a small craftsman shop to make them right. Sorry about the old girl 'Zilla, but you are going to be totally stoked with what comes back from the spa.
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AussieJames
Posted 2010-10-29 8:08 AM (#362162 - in reply to #362124)
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The Mothership....and Hercules hangers.....none better

It'll be fine Zilla......cosmetic surgery at it's best

AJ
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-29 12:17 PM (#362163 - in reply to #362124)
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Thanks everyone! I am at least feeling like this will have a good outcome.

I still can't figure out how the hell it stayed up there for 2 days and then just fell. I guess it's time to upgrade my hangers.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2010-10-29 6:02 PM (#362164 - in reply to #362124)
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Sorry to hear, but still interested in which kind of hanger it fell from.

Best regards,
Kurt
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G8r
Posted 2010-10-29 6:18 PM (#362165 - in reply to #362124)
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If I remember right, 'Zilla's got 'em all hanging from String Swings (or similar).

I got all mine on Hercules, with the hangars screwed into an oak plank, and the oak plank lag bolted into the wall studs. I tested the mounts by hanging my full weight (all 250 lbs/114 Kg) from each hangar. Shouldn't have a problem.

Steve, my friend, I still get sick every time I see those pictures. I'm sure Keller and the gang will do a superb job, better than new.
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-29 6:39 PM (#362166 - in reply to #362124)
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Yes, they were string swings. Again, it wasn't a hanger failure. The guitar must not have been fully seated in the hanger. But I have no doubt that it would definitely have been seated properly on a Hercules hanger.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-10-30 9:16 AM (#362167 - in reply to #362124)
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While I don't do the hanger thing, I have upgraded all my guitar stands to Hercules...with kids etc. while they are out I feel they are safe...then, back in the cases...
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-10-30 9:37 AM (#362168 - in reply to #362124)
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As the Black Knight sayeth...
"Tis but a flesh wound."
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-30 9:39 AM (#362169 - in reply to #362124)
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Well for good or bad, my guitars are all out and ready to be played.

And they all pretty much get played. My son and his friends are free to grab the guitars and play. That's what they are for. I have found them to be very careful and respectful of the instruments.

And yes, I did check to see if anyone else had used the 1537 after me. But it looks like I was the last. For acoustics they mostly play my Adamas II, Country Artist, the National, and the 1538. I've actually never seen any of them pick up the 1537.

I love my guitars, but they are meant to be played. Also, my wife thinks of them as decorations for the house and likes to see them on the wall, how can I argue with that?
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cholloway
Posted 2010-10-30 9:51 AM (#362170 - in reply to #362124)
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Hey Steve, when you buy the Elite Bass I'll through in a Hercules hanger.
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-10-30 1:43 PM (#362171 - in reply to #362124)
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Originally posted by cholloway:
Hey Steve, when you buy the Elite Bass I'll through in a Hercules hanger.
:D
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muzza
Posted 2010-11-02 10:51 PM (#362172 - in reply to #362124)
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Those Hercules hangers are so good I'm surprised anybody even bothers with the competition.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-11-03 10:56 AM (#362173 - in reply to #362124)
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I use 55 wall hangers of various makes and models. Most of the hanger kit is discarded, then using the exposed threaded rod on the backside of the hanger itself, I fabricate custom braces or other types of attachments depending upon where the hanger is going. Not all go on the wall. A dozen are off the ceiling, another dozen or so are attached to metal racks, and I've even fabricated some horizontal hangers (Temp's award winning units weren't yet available). Knock wood, I've never had a guitar fall off a hanger. Then again, nobody uses the room but me, and there are no children in the house (other than me :) ). I have, however, tipped numerous guitars over that were sitting in stands due to clumsiness, negligence, tight and crowded spaces, yanking on a cable that gets tangled up with stand leg, etc. That's one of the reasons I prefer Adamas guitars. They're (almost) indestructible.
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TJR
Posted 2010-11-04 2:32 PM (#362174 - in reply to #362124)
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Ouch! That is simply awful. That guitar was very well photographed too and seemed like one of the best ones out there. It's incredible how it just came apart all over due to the string tension and the abrupt impact. I really do feel for you and I don't really know what I'd do if that happened to mine? I'd probably rebuild, in the end it's just a guitar after all,( though a special kind of one.) ... Talbot
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james37214
Posted 2010-11-04 7:19 PM (#362175 - in reply to #362124)
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My HD-28 fell out of stand about 10 yrs ago but this makes my mis-hap look like a parking lot door ding and mine broke the headstock almost in half, This looks like a cliff dive. I almost know how you feel. Better get MAACO
Mothership
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Over-haul
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