Ever have one of those songs?
Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-16 2:17 PM (#361256)
Subject: Ever have one of those songs?



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I'd been working and working on a song, not a hard song, no tough chords, no fast changes. But no matter what I do, I can't make it sound good to me. Granted it was originally done on a piano, but I can usually make a piano song work for acoustic. Not this one, dammit. I even tried making it original, non-cover like....didn't help. Obviously it's really aggravating me.
Anyone else have songs they just gave up on for the same reason, not hard, just can't make it sound good?
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-11-16 2:30 PM (#361257 - in reply to #361256)
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How much time you got...?
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ksdaddy
Posted 2010-11-16 2:44 PM (#361258 - in reply to #361256)
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I thought ALL songs affected me that way...
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nikon4004
Posted 2010-11-16 3:05 PM (#361259 - in reply to #361256)
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1st question should have been...Whats the song???
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-11-16 3:14 PM (#361260 - in reply to #361256)
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Sold the trombone a long time ago. That ended most of these types of challenges. Seriously, you obviously have a sound in your head that you want to create or recreate and don't know how to get there. Made any recordings? Consulted with others? How are you shaping your sound? This happened to me many years ago with Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water. I finally just accepted my version. John Lennon's Imagine is also a piano-based song that doesn't transition over to solo guitar without making some compromises.
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-11-16 3:18 PM (#361261 - in reply to #361256)
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Let it go for a while. One of these days you'll come back to it fresh and the light bulb will come on.

I'm still working on that blues version of Bohemian Rhapsody.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-16 3:37 PM (#361262 - in reply to #361256)
Subject: Re: Ever have one of those songs?



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Originally posted by nikon4004:
1st question should have been...Whats the song???
Actually, in this case, it's Joe Jackson's "Always something breaking us in two."
The little lick part after "Don't you feel like trying something new...." I think is integral to the song, but I can't get it to sound good. Maybe with a duo partner, but solo it's tough to do between the chords and maintain continuity. For me, anyway.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-11-16 3:47 PM (#361263 - in reply to #361256)
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All

the

time.

Funny... I was just thinking about this at lunch while watching some open mic videos.
We all have our little sweet spot (or in your "wheelhouse"), that works for us.
I've taken runs at Alan Jackson's "Little-Bitty" and Toby Keith's "Ain't As Good As I Once Was". I just can't make them sound comfortable so out they go. You just have to keep trying them on till you find one that fits. Kinda like that old 80/20 rule, right DB?

Brian & I have given up on songs only to come back to them a year or two later and find that we can now make it work. Recently, "Goin' Mobile" for instance.

Looking at your YouTube site DB it's easy to tell what type of song in in your wheelhouse.

I'd like to play center in the NBA... but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
Each according to his gifts.
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-11-16 4:00 PM (#361264 - in reply to #361256)
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Joe Jackson's "Always something breaking us in two."

Great tune! Keep at it.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-16 4:10 PM (#361265 - in reply to #361256)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:

Looking at your YouTube site DB it's easy to tell what type of song in in your wheelhouse.
Oh sure...If I were to listen to you I would have never learned AlanM's "Meditation #4"
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-11-16 4:22 PM (#361266 - in reply to #361256)
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I have a better shot at being a center in the NBA than learning any of those Meditation tunes.
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Beal
Posted 2010-11-16 4:37 PM (#361267 - in reply to #361256)
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You got the beard for it.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-11-16 4:39 PM (#361268 - in reply to #361256)
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For the NBA or for the Meditations thing?
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Beal
Posted 2010-11-16 4:40 PM (#361269 - in reply to #361256)
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But to answer the question, yes, many times. I just keep working it till it works or I get sick of it and can it. Trying to get "Same Old Place" by New Found Road. A simple enough tune but I just keep messing it up.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-11-16 4:41 PM (#361270 - in reply to #361256)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
For the NBA or for the Meditations thing?
both


but you might need a few more tats to make an impact in the NBA.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-16 4:48 PM (#361271 - in reply to #361256)
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Beal, I don't know where you come up with this stuff, but that's a great song.
Everyone else, you might want to hear this
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-11-16 5:04 PM (#361272 - in reply to #361256)
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I'm probably too anal retentive to ever play and sing in public. If I like a song enough to learn it, I try to duplicate it exactly. That used to eliminate all female vocalists, but I've softened my stance enough to take some down an octave.
My attitude also eliminated most difficult guitar parts, like almost all of Clapton's but I'm gradually getting some of those. Some piano songs have a guitar rhythm that converts over, but many just don't. You have to either give up, or come up with something that no one may recognize if you just played the guitar part.
Or do like Slipkid said and put it down for awhile, but for me that might be another 30 years.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2010-11-16 6:15 PM (#361273 - in reply to #361256)
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…sometimes just adding some chorus/delay/reverb will make up for the hollow spaces long enough to add a lick… it also adds a lushness that can evoke a piano…..well, sometimes.
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