Why you should not Paint your own Guitar...
Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-11-17 2:19 AM (#361215)
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And I was not high when I did that!
It seemed like a nice idea when I thought of it. :eek:
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kitmann
Posted 2010-11-17 2:36 AM (#361216 - in reply to #361215)
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Arthur it's got that nice new Chevy Camaro look now. :)
I like it. Maybe add the SS stripes behind the bridge
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bvince
Posted 2010-11-17 7:25 AM (#361217 - in reply to #361215)
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I wanted to get one of those Ts cheap and have a digital desert camo pattern put on it. Oh well...someday huh?
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-17 7:46 AM (#361218 - in reply to #361215)
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If you painted it flesh colored and stuck some hair on it, it would be great for videos.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-11-17 8:33 AM (#361219 - in reply to #361215)
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Its a good start. Next time, just make the color-to-black burst transition a bit more gradual.
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kitmann
Posted 2010-11-17 5:18 PM (#361220 - in reply to #361215)
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Hey Arthur I was just kidding about the SS stripes. I really do like that look. I like to be different than anyone else and that paint job I would love to have. The Prof is right about fading it into the black but I like it as it is. Good Job. This is silly I know, but could a black pin stripe 1/4 inch into the red look good?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-11-17 5:46 PM (#361221 - in reply to #361215)
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by ProfessorBB:
Its a good start. Next time, just make the color-to-black burst transition a bit more gradual.
That is what I was trying to do, but the red dried really bright.
I might try to do something with it later.
I don't have to worry about anybody stealing it!
There isn't another one like it around.

Oh! Kitmann, you don't have to "soften the blow" or be Polite! :p
I have grown accustomed to the look. It kinda grows on you.
But when you paint your Camaro or your house, you can just paint over it.
I need to plan any changes cuz I cannot just ADD paint.
The reason a T sounds like they do is because of the lightness of the finish.
So I cannot just add more layers of paint.

Already too much now!
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bvince
Posted 2010-11-17 6:43 PM (#361222 - in reply to #361215)
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Mineral spirits and 0000 steel wool.
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bvince
Posted 2010-11-17 6:44 PM (#361223 - in reply to #361215)
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You could then find a good airbrush artist to do something special on it.
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kitmann
Posted 2010-11-17 7:08 PM (#361224 - in reply to #361215)
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I didn't know that about the lightness of the finish, or course I don't have one of those either. :D
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2010-11-17 7:44 PM (#361225 - in reply to #361215)
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….silkscreen or stencil a picture of Mr. Big behind the bridge…..in a bit lighter shade of grey…..
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standing
Posted 2010-11-17 8:26 PM (#361226 - in reply to #361215)
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The first guitar that Monet painted didn't look anywhere near that good…
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muzza
Posted 2010-11-18 5:20 AM (#361227 - in reply to #361215)
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Someone's gotta say it OMA...

That looks f----n' AWFUL! What were you thinkin?
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AussieJames
Posted 2010-11-18 6:46 AM (#361228 - in reply to #361215)
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In the words of the song "Little Lion Man".........I f----d it up this time......!! :D

AJ
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-11-18 6:59 AM (#361229 - in reply to #361215)
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Step away from the spray cans...still, IMHO it looks better than the Heroin guitar...uggh...
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AussieJames
Posted 2010-11-18 7:03 AM (#361230 - in reply to #361215)
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Amen to that Mike.......!!!!

"What were they thinking"

AJ
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alpep
Posted 2010-11-18 11:28 AM (#361231 - in reply to #361215)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Step away from the spray cans...still, IMHO it looks better than the Heroin guitar...uggh...
spray cans? it looks like it was done with a roller or a 4" brush about 2 inches thick

did you use latex? or oil base?
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-18 12:05 PM (#361232 - in reply to #361215)
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Originally posted by alpep:
did you use latex? or oil base? [/QB]
John Lennon's cheapass blood!
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nikon4004
Posted 2010-11-18 12:13 PM (#361233 - in reply to #361215)
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How about someething in GM Electric Blue like the 70's GTO ???
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Styll
Posted 2010-11-18 12:15 PM (#361234 - in reply to #361215)
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It definitely stands out... :)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-11-18 4:48 PM (#361235 - in reply to #361215)
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Originally by muzza:
That looks f----n' AWFUL! What were you thinkin?
That is what I am thinking.

Alpep asked: "did you use latex? or oil base?"
Testors Enamel. It is supposedly thinner than enamel house-paint in a gallon can.

Styll sez: "It definitely stands out..."
Nobody will steal it. :p
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-18 5:04 PM (#361236 - in reply to #361215)
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OMA, don't take this wrong, but you are pretty friggin' weird.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2010-11-18 5:26 PM (#361237 - in reply to #361215)
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I think of this as a public service announcement - if you are going to paint your guitar, start with one that has some unfixable problem such as a twisted neck or massive crack in the top. Not a perfectly good one.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2010-11-18 5:27 PM (#361238 - in reply to #361215)
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Actually, while Al is here. I'm thinking of painting my 08C (shock horror!). Actually none of that, the gold paint around the edge has come off where my sweaty arm has contacted it.

Anyone know what type of paint Ovation used to do the gold trimming?
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AstroDan
Posted 2010-11-18 5:31 PM (#361239 - in reply to #361215)
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I'm just kinda glad he left the 07C alone...
J/K :)


edit*** OK, not kidding
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-11-18 6:42 PM (#361240 - in reply to #361215)
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by dark bar:
OMA, don't take this wrong, but you are pretty friggin' weird.
Thank You!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-11-18 7:18 PM (#361241 - in reply to #361215)
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OMA, don't take this wrong, but you are pretty friggin' weird.
Pot/Kettle???

Seriously, look at the list of OFC members and pick one...lol
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james37214
Posted 2010-11-18 8:05 PM (#361242 - in reply to #361215)
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Just Play w/ you back to the crowd and no one will notice.
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muzza
Posted 2010-11-18 11:14 PM (#361243 - in reply to #361215)
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Originally posted by TAFKAR:
Anyone know what type of paint Ovation used to do the gold trimming?
Isn't it ironic that you have some paint that you wanted to stay on and it came off.

OMA has totally the opposite problem.

TAFFY, why don't you change the gold paint to red 'Testors Enamel' I know someone who's got nearly a whole gallon going cheap.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-19 6:13 AM (#361244 - in reply to #361215)
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Anyone want to play with OMA's red testorcle?
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-11-19 6:59 AM (#361245 - in reply to #361215)
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Doesn't the Mothership have a policy against this type of abuse?
Their black ops squad just might visit your apartment some dark night to reclaim the victim. And you won't hear them coming.... I read somewhere on the internet that they use black helicopters.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2010-11-19 7:08 AM (#361246 - in reply to #361215)
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slippy, ...they can't find you if you wear "the Hat" and the foil is properly handlaid....

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Beal
Posted 2010-11-19 7:46 AM (#361247 - in reply to #361215)
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Yes, the hat. I thought that only protected you when you played banjo?.....
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-11-19 8:06 AM (#361248 - in reply to #361215)
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The coconut bra is the best protection overall. No one will touch you when you're wearing one of those.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2010-11-19 8:08 AM (#361249 - in reply to #361215)
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....they confiscated my banjo whilst I was re-lining the Hat..
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-07-06 12:44 AM (#489370 - in reply to #361215)
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The Red Paint was starting to flake-off and look uglier than it already was. So...



Scrub any loose paint off and knock-down the high spots...
Hit it with the Krylon! (actually Home&Garden indoor-outdoor spray stuff)





Some people never learn.
no, I didn't paint it in my bedroom

Now I gotta wait for it to dry to see how it will turn-out.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-07-06 4:19 AM (#489371 - in reply to #361215)
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Okay... Black is Black, but these aren't the same Black.




I used many (5) really thin coats of paint. Hope it sounds the same (or better).
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TAFKAR
Posted 2014-07-06 4:23 AM (#489372 - in reply to #361215)
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OMA you could have sold that for a fortune. It was the most famous guitar in the whole OFC.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-07-06 6:30 AM (#489377 - in reply to #361215)
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Awwww....now you RUINED it...
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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-06 8:10 AM (#489378 - in reply to #361215)
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my son got the bright idea to do a "hydro dipping" on an electric throw away guitar. We bought a big a** trash can - spent too much money on paint , and dipped away. It looked like crap...but he still has the darn thing.

I say..nothing ventured, nothing gained !!
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-07-06 10:17 AM (#489384 - in reply to #361215)
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Btw...you might want to vacuum that a/c unit. Looks pretty dusty...
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MWoody
Posted 2014-07-06 11:14 AM (#489388 - in reply to #361215)
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Art,
Thanks for keep'in us real!

Oh, and you have too many guitars
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dvd
Posted 2014-07-06 11:49 AM (#489390 - in reply to #361215)
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The end of an era. :-(
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DaveKell
Posted 2014-07-06 1:03 PM (#489391 - in reply to #489371)
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Okay... Black is Black, but these aren't the same Black.




One of the first things I learned as an apprentice signpainter decades ago was the difference between light black and dark black.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-07-06 5:03 PM (#489398 - in reply to #361215)
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Okay... I put it back together, mostly to check the neck set.
Luckily, because of the Intelligent Design, it went back together correctly.
So I put the old strings back on to check the action.
Once I had done that, I figured that I may as well put the preamp back in to use the tuna...
Then I decide to make a video.

So here is 8 minutes of me babbling and testing the guitar...

For those of you who are really bored.

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AstroDan
Posted 2014-07-06 5:20 PM (#489399 - in reply to #361215)
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Nice! Sounds good, OMA!

(still glad I got the 07C before the paint bug hit... )
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SOBeach
Posted 2014-07-07 1:07 PM (#489410 - in reply to #361215)
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Ballad of Big Red  (in the style of Big Bad John by Jimmy Dean)  

 

Well it was in November of Twenty-ten,

a day the OFC will remember when

Old Man Arthur grabbed his Elite T

took some Testor's red, and made history.

 

Big red,   Big rehhh… ed        

 

Big bad red

 

It was an Elite model Seventeen Seventy-eight

with a textured top they say sounded great

Coated with a finish, same as its back

a secret formula known as textured bowl black

 

Big red,     ummm hmmm

 

Now most Ts are black, tho there were a few

painted lusty red and some pewter too,

but Old Man Arthur thought his would look better

if it had a burst, that was a whole lot redder

 

Big red,   Big rehhh… ed        

 

Big bad red

 

So he took the Testor's and began to brush,

but it dried too fast and he had to rush.

Though he tried his best, the burst went bust,

his finish dreams had turned to dust.

 

Big red,     ummm hmmm

 

Well he posted pics on the OFC

for all us guitar nuts to see.

Got lots of comments from the crew,

most exclaimed "What did you do?!" 

 

Big red,   Big rehhh… ed        

 

Big bad red

 

Since then it's gotten lots of jokes

and Arthur's taken lots of pokes,

but as time has passed, ol' Art's red T

became an icon on the OFC

 

Big red,     ummm hmmm

 

Then Arthur changed his mind one day

and painted all that red away.

Five coats of black just to be sure

and now that icon is... no more.

 

Big red.

 

Well that's all there is, it's all been said

so ends this ballad of  Big  red.

 

Big red,   Big rehhh… ed        

 

Big bad red


 
 
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-07-07 1:38 PM (#489411 - in reply to #361215)
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Nice job, Jeff
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MWoody
Posted 2014-07-07 2:01 PM (#489412 - in reply to #361215)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-07-07 2:03 PM (#489413 - in reply to #489410)
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SOBeach - 2014-07-07 11:07 AM

Big bad red

 

 

Awesome.

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jay
Posted 2014-07-07 3:06 PM (#489418 - in reply to #489410)
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"the burst went bust"

lmao

 

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SillyLittleBoy
Posted 2014-07-13 10:13 PM (#489617 - in reply to #361215)
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Ok, from the first pictures up top I thought, "It don't look TOO bad and I kind of like the color," but then when I see the lower picture and how it kind of looks caked on a bit... well... and did you say, Testers Enamel? You mean those little half-spray cans that I use to paint my Revell plastic model cars? Of course OMA you've got more than enough Ovation/Adamas guitars that will help soften the blow of one bad paint job. In fact, if I recall I believe you've even got two of the T's and I too was not aware of the light finish being a major feature of this guitar and it's sound (mental note: store that important info).

How did you paint it? Did you hang it and leave it stationary? Or did you just prop it against a chair and have at it? I think I'd go with bvince's suggestion, "Mineral spirits and 0000 steel wool."

But that's just me and what do I know, I'm just a...
SillyLittleBoy

P.S. Just watched your video, OMA, and I think I figured out what went wrong. You were mentioning that the paint still smelled and you kept taking whiffs of it. Did you paint in an enclosed are with very little ventilation? If I recall my model building days of youth, I do believe the glue AND the paint had the ability to "cloud" one's mind quite well.

Edited by SillyLittleBoy 2014-07-13 10:26 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-07-14 5:11 AM (#489620 - in reply to #361215)
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Aw... Like BobG sez, I ruined it.

But the red Testors was starting to flake-off.
Yes, it was the paint that one would use on models.
No, it was not the spray-on stuff in the little can.
It was the brush-on stuff in the little square bottle.

The interior/exterior spray paint has just about cured, so it doesn't smell any longer.
I have taken it out a coupla time already. This will still be my foul-weather guitar.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-07-14 7:12 AM (#489621 - in reply to #489620)
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arthurseery - 2014-07-14 6:11 AM

This will still be my foul-weather guitar.

Would that include "shirtless videos" as well? Might as well let one guitar handle all the nasty jobs.
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DanSavage
Posted 2014-07-14 1:32 PM (#489624 - in reply to #489620)
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arthurseery - 2014-07-14 3:11 AM

Aw... Like BobG sez, I ruined it.

But the red Testors was starting to flake-off.
Yes, it was the paint that one would use on models.
No, it was not the spray-on stuff in the little can.
It was the brush-on stuff in the little square bottle.

The interior/exterior spray paint has just about cured, so it doesn't smell any longer.
I have taken it out a coupla time already. This will still be my foul-weather guitar.


I was offering advice on how to remove the red paint, but now I see you've already repainted it with black.

NVM.

FWIW, Rust-o-leum pick-up bed coating is a reasonable facsimile for Ovation textured coating, though it is a little softer.

Edited by DanSavage 2014-07-14 1:37 PM
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