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Location: Colorado | I did a search and didn't find anything conclusive on this. I'm about to pull the trigger on getting one of the 1581s Al has and I want a little more info on this preamp system.
I see two 1/4" outputs on the bowl of the 1581s with the FET preamp. Can someone fill me in on how this preamp system really works and what benefits it possesses?
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Location: Jet City | The stereo feature is wired so that, when used with the stereo Y-chord supplied, the output of strings 1, 3 and 5 goes to one channel, and 2, 4 and 6 to the other. Separation of left and right channels is achieved when used with a stereo amplifier/PA or two individual amps.
Just buy one. I did. |
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Location: Colorado | Thanks Damon. I'm guessing from the lack of red-blanket photots that you haven't gotten yours yet. |
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Location: Utah | One of the jacks is mono and the other stereo, right? |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by Damon67:
The stereo feature is wired so that, when used with the stereo Y-chord supplied, the output of strings 1, 3 and 5 goes to one channel, and 2, 4 and 6 to the other. Separation of left and right channels is achieved when used with a stereo amplifier/PA or two individual amps.
Just buy one. I did. So does that get weird when finger picked or does it sound really lush? Mixed with a little reverb and a stereo chorus????.....I'd have to hear that, could be cool. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I've never exactly found a reason to use the stereo output as such. Just seems a little strange. One thing I did do, just for sng's was to route one of the outputs (strings 1, 3, 5) through a delay and then to headphone hard L and the other output (strings 2, 4, 6) clean to headphone hard R. Finger pick and play with the delay timing until it induces 100% vertigo and your brain can no longer communicate with your fingers. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Todd, did I not demonstrate the stereo features of the FET when you stopped by? A number of the early Ovation models had this feature, and it has been faithfully continued on the reissues. Personally, I think it produces a remarkable effect that I like. That's why I run two Acoustasonic Juniors in the bandroom (one channel to each), run a signal from each to the stereo PA panned wide, then boost the separation even more. All the more reason for you to pick up a second Shen Jr! |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by Todd G.:
Thanks Damon. I'm guessing from the lack of red-blanket photots that you haven't gotten yours yet. It's here. It's been played minimally (have some neck/back issues at the moment).
I can say for sure, it's the loudest one in the house. I love the sound. It plays beautifully, and I'm very glad I gave Al the CC#.
I'll have pics this weekend. Haven't had much time. |
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by Damon67:
I can say for sure, it's the loudest one in the house. I love the sound. It plays beautifully, and I'm very glad I gave Al the CC#.
Is it noticeably louder than your 2080? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the 2080…
But first… rest up and get better… |
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Location: Colorado | Yeah, get healed up there Damon. Pics can wait.
Brad, I did not get a demonstration of the FET when I was at your place (or play the OFC 1). It's probably one of those things I'll have to wait to use since I won't have any funds left for another amp if I buy the 1581. Next time I'm at your place we'll plug yours into your Fenders and check it out. |
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Location: Chicago | First of all, AWESOME axe. I'm using mine for the all-acoustic session Jeff and I are doing. My problem with the unusual separation (135/246) has to do with single note lines. It was distracting to have the line broken up left-right-left as you moved from string to string. Not "lush" but "jagged" or "incoherent". Chords sound great.
I don't use the stereo feature (in fact, I disconnected it: installed a Fishman system with 4-band ED). |
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Location: Tennessee | I have a few Ovations with the stereo outs and I've used them many times when recording. Like Dobro said, they're good for rhythm/chords kind of stuff. I mic the guitar normally, and then take a stereo out hard panned left and right into two more channels. I can bring these up behind the mic'd channels to whatever level works best and get a real lush image ... it's almost like a natural chorus effect.
It's a handy trick, but it's best used in moderation. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
It's a handy trick, but it's best used in moderation. Excellent point, Bobbo. |
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Location: NJ | just another flavor of vanilla |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by alpep:
just another flavor of vanilla Vanilla???? |
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Stereo FET preamp in the 1581 reissue