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Location: USA | I heard a rumor that all future Ovations will be made in Korea and only a handful of Adamas models will be made in the USA. Is this true? Has this already started? If not, when? |
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Location: Colorado | Based on what I've read on this forum, there will still be some U.S. production for Ovation. And the Adamas line will now become a custom order only shop--no more production line. As far as Korean-built Ovations go, I don't know. China seems more likely though. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Okay... I'll stir the pot.
At the Roundback Revolution Roadshow someone (not me) asked about Korean-made Balladeer and Elites...
(At that moment I was playing Danny's TX just to check-out a TX)
According to the Company People... the factory in Korea that makes the Balladeers etc has specially trained people. Trained by Ovation USA in the USA.
These are not the same crew that makes Celebrity's in China.
If you read the "Any American in AX or TX?" all the way through, you will find that New Hartford is becoming a Custom Only Shop for Adamas... And maybe also for Legends and such. But I believe that if you go to the Ovation Homepage and click on the Custom Shop , they say that they will make you whatever you like. Even a Thunderbolt. So if you REALLY wanted a USA-built Elite T with quintad bracing, I guess that they could build you one for a coupla thousand bucks. The problem being, by the time you pay for a T you might be able to just buy an Adamas.
(What they are doing with the Guild section, I don't know... I don't do square guitars :p ) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Forensicguy:
I heard a rumor that all future Ovations will be made in Korea and only a handful of Adamas models will be made in the USA. Is this true? Has this already started? If not, when? If someone knew the answer then it would not be a rumor. |
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Location: Utah | My understanding is that anything that says Ovation on it from now on will be Asian made, and will have an 'AX' or 'TX' in the model number. If you can come up with the money, they will custom make you an 'LX' in the USA.
As far as has been made public, all Adamas guitars will be made in USA. The website shows only a few models, but all are custom made now, there are no "standard production" guitars being made. The custom shop will do just about anything you want and can pay for, so the website isn't really accurate in the way they imply that only a few Adamas models are available.
Sure wish they'd make the new website show the options for custom guitars the way the old site did. Occasionally I'd go and browse through and dream. Now it says to contact your dealer for options and pricing. |
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Location: Flahdaw | You know it's easier to post new threads than read the old ones.
So anyway, what's the best acoustic amp for Ovations? |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Forensicguy:
I heard a rumor that all future Ovations will be made in Korea and only a handful of Adamas models will be made in the USA. Is this true? Has this already started? If not, when? Pretty ironic for a guy who named himself "Forensicguy"... |
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Location: out there | to directly answer the question.
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Location: out there | some will be from China
some will be from __________ |
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Location: NJ | oma speaks |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | Pretty sad occurence no matter how you look at it.
Granted the Koreans have gotten really good at making quality guitars cheaply, but how long will it be before some faceless suit at Fender decides that keeping the lights and machinery on in the 'custom shop' isn't cost effective and decides to pull the pin entirely...
I sure hope that doesnt happen. It puts us all one step closer to having to learn to speak Chinese... |
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Location: Flahdaw | The Koreans speak Chinese? They should learn Korean....make things so much easier |
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Location: USA | Originally posted by Waskel:
Originally posted by Forensicguy:
I heard a rumor that all future Ovations will be made in Korea and only a handful of Adamas models will be made in the USA. Is this true? Has this already started? If not, when? Pretty ironic for a guy who named himself "Forensicguy"... Nothing ironic about it at all. Asking questions is one way to find answers... forensics or not. By the way, that's how detectives get answers too a lot of times... asking questions. For me, yeah... I was a former forensics guy working for 3 law enforcement agencies. |
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Location: USA | Going to Korea for all production guitars with the Ovation name is a huge change. As for Adamas only being a custom-made guitar line, that too is a change. Without production versions in stores, it will be harder to get the brand name Adamas in the minds of potential buyers. Unless you already know about Adamas, how will you know to even consider ordering a custom version?
Sounds like Ovation has a tough road ahead of itself in terms of marketing. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Forensicguy:
Asking questions is one way to find answers... forensics or not. True. So is reading posts as recent as a couple of days ago, rather than asking the same question. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Forensicguy:
Without production versions in stores, it will be harder to get the brand name Adamas in the minds of potential buyers. Unless you already know about Adamas, how will you know to even consider ordering a custom version?
Sounds like Ovation has a tough road ahead of itself in terms of marketing. This is what has been said about USA Ovations not being in Stores.
But you are correct, if you cannot even TRY one...
Why would you shell-out Thousands of Dollars to built one?
Just buy the Taylor, Larivee, Martin or Whatever that is on the shelf.
Or get a 2778AX for $650 and go about you business...
[ForensicGuy: I hadn't even thought of That. That is Sad :( ] |
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Location: Flahdaw | Ovation has people who are paid good money to make big decisions, and I'll just bet this is one of those. My guess is that Carol Dinglehorf, the asst human resource mgr, wasn't the sole decision maker on this one. |
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Location: out there | her name is Dinglehoffmeister |
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| Wasn't she replaced by a PeopleSoft license a few years ago? And HR is now run through Bangalore...
Good to see you around again, Lightfoot. Thunderbolt says hello. |
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Location: Location Location Location | These are South Koreans we're referring to? |
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Location: out there | Yeah, tell my Budddy "Hey" me. |
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Location: Texas | Yes, but most of us are not supposed to post to that thread since it's in the "New Members" section…
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| True, but if "most of us" who "are not supposed to post" didn't reply to these questions, the poor OPs would never get their questions answered... |
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Location: Newington, CT | Man! This thread has enough obscure, esoteric, and just plain opaque references to choke a Varelian desert glorg!
(And everyone knows how hard it is to choke one of those!) |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Baby boomers will never suffer from Alzheimers.
It will be more of a celebration! |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by AlanM:
Man! This thread has enough obscure, esoteric, and just plain opaque references to choke a Varelian desert glorg! Is that some type of chicken? |
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Location: Indiana | Tastes like chicken... |
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Location: SoCal | Smells like chicken..... |
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Location: Newington, CT | Now, THAT's just too funny!
I like the entry right underneath the "Real Chicken." Looks like "Meatless Chicken," if you just glance at it. Mebbe that's what the first "Chicken" is! |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Smells like chicken..... Quacks like a chicken... |
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by AlanM:
Man! This thread has enough obscure, esoteric, and just plain opaque references to choke a Varelian desert glorg!
(And everyone knows how hard it is to choke one of those!) Yes, but you get to wear the T-Shirt if you do… |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by G8r:
True, but if "most of us" who "are not supposed to post" didn't reply to these questions, the poor OPs would never get their questions answered... Oooh!!
Brave man Serge... |
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