Instruments For Sale
Gallerinski
Posted 2010-12-02 9:59 PM (#360226)
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Originally posted by StephenT28:

1999 Ovation MC868 Mandocello.........near mint........................................................... $2000

2005 Davy Stuart Custom Built Mando....Top luthier/New Zealand based...................... $1300

2004 Takamine EF75 braz b/s......................near mint..................................................... $3600

2001 Froggy Bottom F12 Deluxe walnut b/s florentine cutaway.........near mint............... $4000

'78/79 IBANZEZ 2640 Artist Doubleneck.....near mint all original cept 1 rear coverplate... $2200

2006 Ampeg Dan Armstrong 6 string electric ReIssue...UNPLAYED MINT! 1 pup included.. $850
Stephen,

Is the Mandocello still for sale ? And does it fit in regular sized case?
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Waskel
Posted 2010-12-03 12:20 AM (#360227 - in reply to #360226)
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Mandocello would be cool. How do they sound?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-12-03 6:38 AM (#360228 - in reply to #360226)
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I played an Adamas manocello and it was really cool. Sounds like a huge mandolin. They are kind of pricey new, but 2k for this used one if its really "near mint" is a good deal. Bad time, but good deal.

T28, got your answer on the case. THANKS
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Patch
Posted 2010-12-03 9:42 AM (#360229 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Sounds like a huge mandolin. They are kind of pricey new, but 2k for this used one if its really "near mint" is a good deal. Bad time, but good deal.
I'll second all of this. They have a real deep tone with the bass-C pair. I love mine.....though I'm still learning to play it.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-12-03 10:26 AM (#360230 - in reply to #360226)
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I find that the unison pairs on the low C are too much. The tension is so low that the strings vibrate against each other. So I made a new nut and the lowest course is an now an octave rather than unison pair. Really cleans up the low end. Also, most mandolin chords using standard mandocello tuning are impossible to play because of the relatively huge scale length, so I tune CGDG rather than CGDA. That produces lots of one and two finger chords that sound huge, and the scale patterns are the same except for the interval between the second and first string. Makes it a much more playable and useful instrument.
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Beal
Posted 2010-12-03 11:26 AM (#360231 - in reply to #360226)
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I did something similar and went to just one string on the bottom.
I'll make a new nut if I ever get back south again and maybe try the octave stringing as well.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-12-04 9:16 PM (#360232 - in reply to #360226)
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Can you point me to pictures of the mandocello? What color is it? These are really interesting instruments. Does it have an Optima?
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-06 12:15 AM (#360233 - in reply to #360226)
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Bobbo,
I got some nice pics. I will track them down and post them up.
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noah
Posted 2010-12-06 4:07 PM (#360234 - in reply to #360226)
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You have these two photos in the archives from when you acquired it.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-06 6:34 PM (#360235 - in reply to #360226)
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Thanks Bruce. I can always count on you to watch out for me.


Bobbo, I will post some more current photos when I have time to find them.

Thanks for the interest.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-08 4:53 PM (#360236 - in reply to #360226)
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Paul, if the Mandocello doesn't sell I have been thinking about converting it a bouzouki.

Any thoughts?
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Waskel
Posted 2010-12-08 5:21 PM (#360237 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Paul, if the Mandocello doesn't sell I have been thinking about converting it a bouzouki.

Any thoughts?
Only dark ones, full of pain and torment.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-12-08 5:26 PM (#360238 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Paul, if the Mandocello doesn't sell I have been thinking about converting it a bouzouki.

Any thoughts?
I think it's spelled bazooka, and you can throw it but it probably won't come back to you
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-12-08 6:20 PM (#360239 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Paul, if the Mandocello doesn't sell I have been thinking about converting it a bouzouki.

Any thoughts?
It's perfectly possible, just needs a new nut and change of string gauge, but consider this. The most common Irish Bouzouki tuning is GDAD or in terms of intervals I V II V. If you tune your mandocello CGDG (I V II V) instead of CGDA then it's exactly the same as Irish bouzouki tuning, just lower.. Forget standard Greek tuning of CFAD, that's just the same intervals as top four strings of guitar, and is pretty lame unless you want to play the traditional Greek repoirtoire.
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noah
Posted 2010-12-08 9:24 PM (#360240 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Paul, if the Mandocello doesn't sell I have been thinking about converting it a bouzouki.

Any thoughts?
Here's some more info for you T28... Mandocello convert to Bouzouki
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-09 4:44 PM (#360241 - in reply to #360226)
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Hmmmm, I wonder if I could convert it into an 8-string Baritone ala Taylor.

That might be interesting.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-12-09 4:58 PM (#360242 - in reply to #360226)
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Scale length is too short for true Baritone tuning
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-12-09 5:21 PM (#360243 - in reply to #360226)
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And you'd need a new bridge, the spacing on the Mandocello is no good for a Taylor 8-string Bari rip-off
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-11 12:42 PM (#360244 - in reply to #360226)
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Paul, I assume a new nut would be required for the conversion also (along with the bridge)?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-12-11 2:08 PM (#360245 - in reply to #360226)
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yep. Forget it. I don't know what they were thinking of when they came up with that concept. Taylor were a couple of booths away from us at the pre-show press thing at NAMM, and the 8-string baritone was their "Hot New Product" I had a chance to sit down with it in a quiet environment and check it out. It was a well assembled as anything else they do, but I fail to see the point or appeal of it.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-14 1:44 PM (#360246 - in reply to #360226)
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So Paul, the Taylor 8-string didn't have a pseudo 12 string vibe to it? Wasn't that the point?
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-12-14 1:54 PM (#360247 - in reply to #360226)
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I was real excited to try out the 8 string baritone. Then I did.......eehhhhh, not so cool.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-12-14 4:24 PM (#360248 - in reply to #360226)
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Maybe it was just the circumstances.

I mean, you were playing it... I'm just saying...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-12-14 6:08 PM (#360249 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
So Paul, the Taylor 8-string didn't have a pseudo 12 string vibe to it? Wasn't that the point?
That was the point? Really? A baritone guitar that sounds vaguely like a 12 string? Wow, no wonder I missed the point. I thought it was to try a little two-upmanship on the Martin Roger McGuinn 7 string ( "let's make it longer and add an 8th string, that'll f**kin' show 'em who really knows how to design ridiculous instruments!) They should start drug-testing the R&D staff. Add that one to the list of Taylors I wouldn't want to own. On second thoughts don't bother, that list would be their entire production.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-12-14 9:39 PM (#360250 - in reply to #360226)
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+1
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-12-14 11:39 PM (#360251 - in reply to #360226)
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Brilliant marketing though. Every Taylor-weenie on the planet would want to buy one. There's no "you have one like that" arguments to contend with. It was hyped as a limited special edition kind of thing. Cripes, there was even a post on here about how cool these guitars are. I'll bet a few got bought because of the exposure. As a company, Taylor does seem to be doing all the right things ... including making all their product here in California, having a huge market share, getting lots of positive media recognition, and doing their business in a responsible way. Too bad I'm not a fan of their guitars.

Stephen, did you ever find those pictures of the mandocello?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-12-15 5:56 AM (#360252 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
. including making all their product here in California

I'm pretty sure the 100 and 200 series as well as the Baby and Big Baby are made in Mexico.
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G8r
Posted 2010-12-15 7:04 AM (#360253 - in reply to #360226)
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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
I'm pretty sure the 100 and 200 series as well as the Baby and Big Baby are made in Mexico.
As Bobbo said, made in California... ;)
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-12-15 12:09 PM (#360254 - in reply to #360226)
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Baja California. But just a stones throw from Escondido ... almost like being across town except for that pesky border fence.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-16 12:14 AM (#360255 - in reply to #360226)
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Yeah Bobbo.

I am out of town for a funeral right now and will post them when I get back.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-12-20 5:52 PM (#360256 - in reply to #360226)
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Hey Bob,
Back in town and I will try and get some pics posted before Christmas.
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