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Location: France | Few monthes ago, I'd amplified my 47 (N°16), I know, I'm really crazy, with and old applause amp in good shape (too difficult with a fet amp)and the result is really stunnig and great. Now, I think it's the best guitar I could own, better than my oldies 155 et 189, which are marvellous.
so, look at my pictures and my démo (link on youtube) with the 47 plugged in a Roland ac-90
So, have a good new year 2011 !!!!!!!
adamas 47 amplified demo on youtube
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Location: France | Sorry for the picture...
Here it is...for the details !!!(you can see the same at the end of the video on youtube
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | That is almost Sacrilegious, but the transplants are all in the Kaman family.
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by guiguite:
Few monthes ago, I'd amplified my 47 (N°16), I know, I'm really crazy, with and old applause amp in good shape (too difficult with a fet amp)and the result is really stunnig and great. You are crazy! But it does sound great. |
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Location: NJ | D
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Location: NJ | if I were to do it I would go with a k & K and put a endpin jack and not be so intrusive |
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Location: Flahdaw | A rather odd place to mount the preamp... |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | There was at least one other member here who added a preamp to a 47RI. For the rest of us, we just bought the OFC-I, which was essentially built with specs very close to the 47RI model at the same time, in blue, with the factory preamp, plus a bunch of other goodies tossed into the deal by the creative force behind the OFC-I guitar, Mr. Big. |
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Location: New Thermopylae | Nice song, but @>)?(#*$&%< ! |
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Location: New Thermopylae | Nice song, but @>)?(#*$&%< ! |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Sounds Great! ...'makes me wonder though, how it would sound with a really great preamp? I can't remember which model it is (I'm sure someone here will chime in though) that has the undersaddle pickup and a soundhole mic combined? That's what I would have put in such a nice instrument. It still sounds very nice though. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
For the rest of us, we just bought the OFC-I, which was essentially built with specs very close to the 47RI model at the same time, in blue, with the factory preamp, plus a bunch of other goodies tossed into the deal by the creative force behind the OFC-I guitar, Mr. Big. +1.... |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | (Bitter Envy here) ): |
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Location: Jet City | OK, come clean. You're just pullin' our leg right? THis is all photoshop magic, right?
Kinda like when I photoshopped a big Raiders emblem on my 2080? (but in your case much more extreme) |
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Location: SoCal | Actually, now I'm curious. Why install that particular preamp instead of getting a 2 knobber from the factory, or sending the guitar back to the factory and having it installed? Or taking Al's suggestion and getting an under saddle p/u with a jack out the endpin? |
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Location: closely held secret | Same question comes to my mind, Moody.
That's one of the nicest sounding guitars to ever come out of the MS. Why put a POS preamp in it? |
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Location: France | In acoustic, the sound is the same, and I really like to do by myself every modification....and it's really less expensive than ship to the factory , and as you saw, the sound is marvelous...
so, thanks, all guys, for your words !!
And damon, it's not photoshop !!! My french friend, adamasplayer (you can see it on youtube, it's a marvelous player and he own a 47 too), after trying it, said it was the best adamas he's never played plugged!!!
So, i'm happy ! |
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Location: Paris/France | Don't throw him stones, I've already done it on the O.T forum in France!!
My first thought was a great photoshop work but after few days, I had to admit that Thierry HAS DONE IT!! :eek:
Now, we call him "Luthierjack", half luthier and half lumberjack!! :D :D
For sure this pre-amp would not have been my choice but this #47 is his guitar so... ;)
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | This is the equivalent of starting with the finest $50 French pastry from the best French chef in the heart of Paris, then pouring a can of Hershey's chocolate syrup all over it. I wouldn't do it, and it would probably insult the chef, but each to their own individual tastes. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I support you!
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Location: France | I'm really a bad guy !!!! lol lol lol
and thanks for your support, Jerôme !!!! |
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Location: Angoulême - France | That's a really a very special new year announcing Guite, no ? !
I tried that guitar and she really sounds great even if personaly I'd rather install a K&K pure mini or LR Baggs dual source inside preamp (but with ribon the transducer) on it.
So... A really good and happy new year 2011 to you and your family my friend ! |
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Location: Flahdaw | That's the equivalent of...
1. Taking a Martin guitar and painting a man's face on the front of it.
or
2. Taking a perfectly good Ovation and spray painting it menstrual red
Well, maybe not quite that bad. Glad you are enjoying it guiguite...it's your guitar, after all. |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | Hmmm...let's see...Euros converted to dollars (and vice versa), multiply that by whatever calcuations used for international shipping, add the time crossing the ocean, add the time spent with Mother, add the time recrossing the ocean, factor in the horror stories posted here on the board about guitars arriving almost anywhere in the world DOA...send it back to Mother?? Most likely, not.
As the less handy half of the family, anyone who can even begin to attempt anything like that knows a whole lot more than I do, and gets my respect just for doing it. (But, since my knowledge is so limited, that will reflect proportionately on what my respect could possibly be worth......)
Would I have done it that way with that pick-up? No...but I would have had to find someone who could install it, and then pay them to do it.
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Location: Paris/France | Originally posted by dark bar:
That's the equivalent of...
1. Taking a Martin guitar and painting a man's face on the front of it.
It already exists... :D :D :D
J :)
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by dark bar:
That's the equivalent of...
1. Taking a Martin guitar and painting a man's face on the front of it.
or
2. Taking a perfectly good Ovation and spray painting it menstrual red
Well, maybe not quite that bad. Glad you are enjoying it guiguite...it's your guitar, after all. And db pulls together references from one old and one current thread, into THIS thread, to deliver an extremely rare three-thread, cross-thread razzing...JUST before the buzzer on 2010! |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by Jérôme:
Originally posted by dark bar:
That's the equivalent of...
1. Taking a Martin guitar and painting a man's face on the front of it.
It already exists... :D :D :D
J :)
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Location: Flahdaw | C'mon Beal. If you look closely his name is spelled out right below his picture....Non Multa Sed Multum (must be foreign?) |
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Location: Newington, CT | What did Non Multa say again? |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by AlanM:
What did Non Multa say again? "Why did you put my friggin face on this stupid guitar?" |
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Location: Newington, CT | I looked up "Non Multa Sed Multum ." Turns out it means: "Не много – но многое." And, as it turns out, it is foreign. |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | As far as Guiguite's git goes... CHEERS!
Originally posted by AlanM:
I looked up "Non Multa Sed Multum ." Turns out it means: "Не много – но многое." And, as it turns out, it is foreign. OK... now what the hell does "Не много – но многое." mean???
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Location: closely held secret | "Non Multa Sed Multum" - Not many, but much (quality, not quantity).
Non sequitur. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Congrats Thierry...whatever floats your boat...it is your guitar and I'm glad it makes you happy...
By the way: anyone have any good cheese to go with all this whine??? |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by cholloway:
As far as Guiguite's git goes... CHEERS!
Originally posted by AlanM:
I looked up "Non Multa Sed Multum ." Turns out it means: "Не много – но многое." And, as it turns out, it is foreign. OK... now what the hell does "Не много – но многое." mean???
Anyone care to take a shot at it? |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Congrats Thierry...whatever floats your boat...it is your guitar and I'm glad it makes you happy... +1 |
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Location: France | Thank you, Mike(musicmishka), thanks to all too!
In fact, I did it because every time I went to a bar for playing or every time I'm doing singing my pupils in public in my school, I said myself:
"Ah, no, I cannot take my 47, it is not amplified..."
and then, it never went out. Now, it is the first one!!!!! |
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Location: Australia | Sorry, but this has got to be one of the dumbest mods I've ever seen.
Why carve up a beautiful and very rare guitar and fit a crummy preamp in a terrible location. What makes it even harder to understand is why you'd bother when you have so many other really nice ac/el Adamas guitars already.
....at the end of the day, it's your guitar man |
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Location: Nîmes, south of France | Originally posted by alpep:
if I were to do it I would go with a k & K and put a endpin jack and not be so intrusive I fully agree with Al, K&K Pure Western would be just fine.
Thierry, this is not the right place to show that sort of "Lutheron" 's work ;-))
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Location: Tennessee | That's kind of like putting a volkswagen motor in a porsche. It fits and looks good and a nice job on the installation. But it definitely took more cojones than I have to do that (shaddup, Cliff). |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
... it definitely took more cojones than I have to do that That's what Michael Jackson used to say about....well, about pretty much everything. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by alpep:
if I were to do it I would go with a k & K and put a endpin jack and not be so intrusive K&K would be a good choice of pickup but would be impossible to install without cutting some kind of access port to work through.
I installed a first generation Ovation thinline pickup (the non-compensated version) in mine. These pickups are exactly the same size as the existing saddle in the 47, so there is no routing of the slot needed, and they look identical to the standard saddle. The only permanent modification was a hole for the output wire in the base of the saddle slot, which cannot be seen. Then, to be absolutely non-invasive I borrowed a trick from owners of vintage Nationals, who often
install output jacks in the treble side f-holes. So I installed
the output jack into one of the smaller holes in the treble-side
eppaulette - no drilling required so completely reversible. I then decided I already had enough guitars to gig with, so I pulled the whole lot out. It was an interesting excersise, but ultimately not worth the effort. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
It was an interesting excersise, but ultimately not worth the effort. That's how I feel about most exercises... |
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Location: Nîmes, south of France | Paul, your idea is fine too.
Here is the link for the K&K Pure Western for those who didn't know this type of pickup.
It is also fully reversible, very light, doing no damage to the guitar, a preamp is not mandatory and the sound is great.
A friend of mine has one installed in a Lowden F32C, i was impressed when playing it and very interested by the system itself.
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| I installed a K&K PW Mini in my Collings, along with the vintage endpin jack (1/8" female in a standard endpin - no drilling out the end block for a large 1/4' endpin jack). I know Beal has installed several in various of his guitars. I got mine from Al at a better price than you'll find anywhere else on the 'Net. Agreed, the tone is very much acoustic without piezo quack you get from most undersaddle pups, and the line driver is pretty hot.
Besides the passive transducers + line driver, they also offer options from passive volume thumbwheel to multi-input onboard pre-amps. Any future un-electrified acoustic guitar I get, I'll put in one of these if I want to amplify it. I can see where it would be a major PITA, if not impossible, to install one of these in an Adamas without a manhole cover. |
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Location: closely held secret | I would have got mine from Al, but then I wouldn't have gotten the personal tour through the assembly plant down in Coos Bay. |
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Location: Scotland | There is no way you could install a K&K Pure Western in any Adamas that didn't already have an access port without cutting a port to do so. Which kinda defeats the non-invasive approach. |
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47...amplified !!!!