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Location: michigan | Was there a certain year or certain models where ovation transitioned to the lyrachord bodies?
Up until what year would an ovation have a hand laid fiberglass bowl vs lyrachord?
I apologize if this have previously been posted. I love the sound of an old Patriot have and really like early A braced legends/custom legends. Any info you could provide would be greatly appreciated. THANKS |
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Location: SoCal | The hand laid fiberglass WAS known as lyrachord. Ovation went to a different material in the early 80's, when they went to the K-bar in the neck. It required a different attachment system to the guitar body (2 bolts).
The microsphere bowls came in about 5-6 years ago with the LX models.... |
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Location: michigan | Thanks Moody for clarification.
So the material changed in the 80's with the introduction of the K-BAR
Were all the bodies prior to the K-BAR neck
hand laid fiberglass / lyrachord? |
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Location: SoCal | I don't want to say ALL, but probably most. In 1977 the Applause guitars went to a cheaper bowl using a sheet molding compound (SMC). In about 1981, all the guitars went to this material.
This info is from page 73 of the History of Ovation Guitars book.... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | applesause and matrix were always smc.
it was a phase in of smc over quite a few years.
Then fibreglass came back in the late 90s. |
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Location: Ohio | I had a Matrix 12 string with the real neck. LIterature called the bowl Lyramold? |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Have them again now.
unfinish green and weird looking |
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Location: SoCal | It's the Brazilian Lyramold that sounded the best... |
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Location: Nashville TN. | too bad its banned from export |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "Up until what year would an ovation have a hand laid fiberglass bowl vs lyrachord?"
Technically... don't they still do that? I thought the OFC I and OFC II both had hand laid bowls. |
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Location: NJ | correct |
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Location: SoCal | My guess is that they started redoing the hand laid fiberglass bowls when they built the #47 RI's. They contribute to a better sound but are expensive.
Please note that I've kept this thread civil by not once referring to the "hand laid" bowls as the "masturbatory" bowls. I don't have to go down in the gutter every time..... |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | too late. |
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Location: SoCal | 25%... |
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Location: Tennessee | The K-1111 RI are hand laid glass. Shiny, too. It seems to really make a difference. I also have a newer GS formulation deep bowl and I think it is real good too, but the glass is better. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I am not Positive that it is Hand-Laid, but I can see cords on the F&S Pacemaker.
It is 1979 issue.
But when I received it, I thought the box was empty!
On a side-by-side comparison it is much lighter than the Sweet-T or the 2778LX. |
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Location: Harsens Island, MI | On other boards (where they make guitar backs out of wood, go figure?) I have read endless rambles of Mahogany vs Rosewood vs Brazillian vs
InsertFavoriteWoodHere.
As an ovation fan, I was looking for comparisons between:
Shiny Bowl Hand Laid
Non Shiny Bowl Hand Laid
80's era backs
LX Era backs (light with the bubbles)
I was lucky enough to recently aquire a 40th Anniversary Glen Campbell 6 string (NEW) and even though it is new, it is right up there attributing its sound to building the guitars the old ovation way.
My patriot has a different voice but equally pleasant. I used to think it was because the patriot was 35 years old.
I also had a 40th anniversary Balladeer (shiny bowl), but it sounded very close to the Glen Campbell even though the dimensions/construction are different so I parted with it hoping to aquire an original shiny bowl balladeer some day.
Unlike wood backs, I suspect these various ovation backs don't have much of a change in sound over time. I realize tops tend to break in and sound improves with age.
Maybe I didn't comb the archives using the right search/keywords but I don't see as many discussion threads about the bowl material as other factors in what we like about the Ovation Sound. There are discussions about the different bowl shapes, but not as much about the materials used to contruct the bowl.
Thanks to all those that replied and to those (who have yet to reply). |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | the OFC I and OFC II both had hand laid bowls.
Oh Yeah!!! |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
the OFC I and OFC II both had hand laid bowls.
Oh Yeah!!! |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I think they'll use hand-laid bowls for certain custom orders, too. |
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Location: Suisun City, Ca | I believe my 1617 (from Damon) has a hand-laid bowl...?
Possible?
She booms for sure! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | it's always to lay your hands on the bowl when driving the porcelain bis |
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Location: Nashville TN. | ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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What year did ovation stop making hand laid fiberglass bowls?