I did a neck reset.
tremor
Posted 2011-02-20 3:53 PM (#355789)
Subject: I did a neck reset.


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I have been wanting to send my 1866 in for a neck reset but never got around to it. Then the top cracked so I thought I would give it a shot at home.

Thank you KS_Daddy for the help and info. It took about 1.5 hours(it would have taken less time but I was scared)and it turned out really good.

No new scratches and the Rosette came off in one piece. Now I will take it in to get the top fixed.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-02-20 6:27 PM (#355790 - in reply to #355789)
Subject: Re: I did a neck reset.



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Did you remember to take step-by-step photos? :eek: :D
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-22 5:05 PM (#355791 - in reply to #355789)
Subject: Re: I did a neck reset.


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No, but it was easy enough that maybe I should take it apart and take photos. My biggest fear was breaking the rosette.
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seesquare
Posted 2011-02-22 6:58 PM (#355792 - in reply to #355789)
Subject: Re: I did a neck reset.


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"No, but it was easy enough..."
Wait-a-minute, aren't those glued-in necks?!
How did you adroitly remove the neck, with little difficulty.
Inquiring minds REALLY want to know!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-02-22 7:44 PM (#355793 - in reply to #355789)
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oops :eek:
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-23 5:11 AM (#355794 - in reply to #355789)
Subject: Re: I did a neck reset.


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The 1866 is a bolt on. The only thing glued was the finger board extension. I will take photos when I get home from work today.
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seesquare
Posted 2011-02-23 9:16 AM (#355795 - in reply to #355789)
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OK, now I get it. It would be helpful, for those folks like me, to have reference list of neck joint-types. I tend to rehab the bolt-on types, cuz the disassembly, and reassembly, is much easier to accomplish.
Anybody got a (reasonably) comprehensive list of model #'s?
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-23 9:17 PM (#355796 - in reply to #355789)
Subject: Re: I did a neck reset.


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I have the pics on ning but can't remember how to ad them to a post. I hate getting old. lol
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-02-23 9:48 PM (#355797 - in reply to #355789)
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They are here, take your pick of which you wanna see...

Here are a couple...



I like the use of the spatula.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-02-23 10:08 PM (#355798 - in reply to #355789)
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Was that an official Ovation spatula?
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seesquare
Posted 2011-02-24 12:18 AM (#355799 - in reply to #355789)
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What? You couldn't tell from the A-pattern in the tool design?
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-02-24 10:08 AM (#355800 - in reply to #355789)
Subject: Re: I did a neck reset.



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Was that an official Ovation spatula?
No, the Ovation model has a rounded back...useless for this particular proceedure.
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mgbgt
Posted 2011-02-24 2:08 PM (#355801 - in reply to #355789)
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Thought about doing the same job, but I took the mothership route for my 1866 neck reset after a music store in Marietta Ga. stuck it to me.

"Mint condition does not mean it doesn't need a neck reset". Direct quote from the store owner. Hmmm!
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-24 2:25 PM (#355802 - in reply to #355789)
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The wife just shook her head when she saw my tool selection..
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-02-24 2:47 PM (#355803 - in reply to #355789)
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Originally posted by mgbgt:
"Mint condition does not mean it doesn't need a neck reset". Direct quote from the store owner. Hmmm!
Did you tell him that he needs to take English lessons?
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FlySig
Posted 2011-02-24 3:08 PM (#355804 - in reply to #355789)
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So what did you do after taking it apart to change the neck angle?
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-24 4:10 PM (#355805 - in reply to #355789)
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Thank you OMA. I forgot to say that in my last post.
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-24 4:17 PM (#355806 - in reply to #355789)
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FlySig: I used pieces of a business card on the top part of the neck pocket and a couple under the fretboard extension.

Not Hi-tech and I know it should have been wood but I used what I had on hand.
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seesquare
Posted 2011-02-24 5:47 PM (#355807 - in reply to #355789)
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And, nobody's gotta see it, anyway. But then again, cat's-outta-the-bag now!
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-27 2:45 AM (#355808 - in reply to #355789)
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Lol, yes it is. Cat is running wild...
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-27 2:48 AM (#355809 - in reply to #355789)
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I will say. It takes very little to change the neck angle. A lot less than I thought.
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-27 2:49 AM (#355810 - in reply to #355789)
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rededdie
Posted 2011-02-27 11:20 AM (#355811 - in reply to #355789)
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Did you use steam before the spatula?
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titti
Posted 2011-02-27 11:33 AM (#355812 - in reply to #355789)
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hey red,may you want to try to fix the" hump under the fretboard" of your CL?
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rededdie
Posted 2011-02-27 12:45 PM (#355813 - in reply to #355789)
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No it plays like butter up to the 12th fret, which is as far as I ever go. I have a plywood topped Ultra that some day I would like to install a solid top on
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-28 6:37 PM (#355814 - in reply to #355789)
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I didn't use any steam. I just really took my time.
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tremor
Posted 2011-02-28 7:00 PM (#355815 - in reply to #355789)
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I was told that the epoxy ovation uses does not react to steam. I worked very slow and the first time I heard the epoxy crack I thought I broke something. Not a good sound.

I didn't use any tools for the Rosette. I worked around the sound hole putting slight upward pressure with my fingers until I found a weak spot. And then worked on both sides of the weak spot until it was free.

Be careful. You run the risk of really screwing up your guitar. This was my first time doing anything like this and I just got LUCKY!
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titti
Posted 2011-03-01 8:31 AM (#355816 - in reply to #355789)
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rededdie,....on my CL (strings 0.12-0.54), as you see, her also hump at the end of the fretboard, it's only a cosmetic problem. The CL is easy plaiyng until the last fret (certainly not Al Di Meola), although those in position by I'm not going never .For this result, I went to a very good luthier(maybe the best in my region), for the set-up at frets and neck (and shims)....

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tremor
Posted 2011-03-01 6:10 PM (#355817 - in reply to #355789)
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Which model CL is that?
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rededdie
Posted 2011-03-02 12:30 AM (#355818 - in reply to #355789)
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Titti, I don't have a CL mine is an 1117 legend. Deep bowl, Bolt on neck K-bar truss. I can easily play to the 15th fret before there is any problems so as I said before it is cosmetic only, however a little more severe than yours.
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