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Location: Jet City | Yeah, talk about your live rig. I'd like to see other's solutions as well as comments or suggestions for mine.
As for me, I've been struggling to find a solution to work easily work with my acoustic and electric guitars. Up till now, I've had 2 totally seperate signal chains, but all that is solved now with this new setup.
First, no wires Ma! Yes, I'm using Peavey's top shelf wireless system, the Peavey Pro Comm PCX U-1002.
From the wireless receiver, the signal goes to the input of the pedalboard, then out to the first pedal, my Boss Tuner. From there, it's the Dunlop Wah, Custom Shop Fulltone Fulldrive, then the modulation section which consists of my Pearl pedals (Chorus, Flanger, Phaser), then to the Ernie Ball Volume, Hardwire Delay, and finally back into the return on the board.
Now the signal leaves the output of the pedalboard and goes to the RAPCO A/B switch. From this switch the signal splits in two, one that goes direct to the amp (currently a Carvin Belair), and the other which goes through the Takamine DI with boost button and ends up at the acoustic amp and or sound board.
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Location: Jersey near NYC | No pics, but I use 2 separate chains for electric and acoustic.
Electric: Sennheiser X-series digital wireless -> TC Polytune -> Pigtronix Philosopher's tone -> prototype Swell G-TOD (tube) distortion -> TC Chorus/Flanger -> Fulltone GT-500 -> V847 -> Roland Vol pedal -> Rack
Rack: Eventide Harmonizer -(stereo)-> Lexicon PCM 80 -> PCM 70 -> Valley People Gates -> 2 amps
I control the PCM 70 out front with a Lex MRC.
Amps: Small: Fender Blues Jr & AC 15
Medium: Fender Vibrolux Reverb & AC-30
Large: 2X Soldano HR 50+ to Mesa 4X 12 & Marshall 1960
Acoustic: Sennheiser EVO II wireless -> Joe Meek One Q with Alesis Wedge reverb in loops. Direct to board through Radial or Countryman DI.
If I'm playing a cork-sniffer event, I sub in my Trainwreck for one of the Soldano heads or the Vibrolux.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Nice rig Damon... |
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Location: Eaton, Indiana | Been at this 45 plus. I like to keep it simple. I use a Bose L 1 compact with a Soundcraft EFX-8
mixer. Inputs work well with my Ovations. The EFX-8 has plenty of programable effects. The Bose by itself is good for smaller gigs. Mic input channel, acoustic guitar input channel. Great sound 100-125 people.
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Location: Michigan | I go to church and plug my guitar into the thingy :) |
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Location: NW Washington State | Damon, are those older Pearl pedals? I think I still have a Pearl compressor I bought way back when.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Damon,
Which ernie ball volume pedal do you have? Is it the 25K one, or the 250K one for passive pedals? Looks like it's at the end of your chain after at least one buffered pedal. Just curious. Nice set up. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Say, Damon, a word of caution . . . be careful when using both the 1/4" and XLR outputs from the Tak DI+ concurrently. According to Tak's engineers, only one output is to be used at a time. Using both could (and will) fry the unit. I learned this first hand. On the other hand, this may not be a problem for you. As long as you're not using the DI's FX loop and a remote mute switch, you can use the buffered output (but not the regular output) simultaneously with the XLR output. |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by numbfingers:
Damon, are those older Pearl pedals? I think I still have a Pearl compressor I bought way back when. I've had them since the 80's. I have an Overdrive and a Compressor as well, but didn't include them into the setup.
Originally posted by an4340:
Which ernie ball volume pedal do you have? Is it the 25K one, or the 250K one for passive pedals? Looks like it's at the end of your chain after at least one buffered pedal. Man, I really don't know. Honestly I didn't know there were 2 different pedals. I have it after the Phaser and before the delay. I'll have to look when I get home.
What do you mean by "buffered"?
Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
Say, Damon, a word of caution . . . be careful when using both the 1/4" and XLR outputs from the Tak DI+ concurrently. I suppose that's a response to my output to amp or mixer or both comment. I should explain what I meant.
It could be I just go the easy/quick route and run it xlr right to the snake. The other option is to run it unbalanced out to the input of the Roland AC60 and use the amp as a preamp, using the eq section and seperating it into stereo and going left/right xlr outputs from the Roland into the snake. |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | Vox VT30…… Balladeer S771 (currently Nashville High Strung)…SX Les Paul Black Beauty clone…'snuf fer me…. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | If I'd have known playing a guitar was so complicated, I never would have started. |
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Location: SoCal | Hey Mark, the hell with the rig, just find me the damned 4th..... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I like to keep it simple. I use a Bose L 1 compact with a Soundcraft EFX-8
mixer. AI '08: Cliff, Temp, and myself caught the last set of a solo guitarist at one of the late night club's...he used a Bose L1 and a Tak (probably w/a cooltube), and a cool laptop based lyric's program...the guy was amazing and the sound was just as good or better...I am seriously considering one of these if the voice returns after surgery in March...it was one of those "you should a been there" moments |
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| Guitar wired to powered mixer wired to speakers.
Oh, I've had all sorts of effects and assorted pedals over the years. But I've found that if you just do a good job playing and singing, the crowd is just as appreciative. |
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Location: Miami | My minimalist setup:
The O plugged into a Bose L1 (model 1) using the piezo pickup default tone. (OP-1 with this tone is perfect as is.)
Other than the guitar and mic chord, there are no cables, and no effects. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | A buffer lifts your signal and strenthens it to push on down the line. An unbuffered pedal, essentially, eats some of the signal, and then sends the remainder to the next link. It may or may not matter, depending on far the signal has to go.
the reason i ask, is that i was considering a volume pedal and was wondering how yours interacted with the buffered pedals in your chain. did you experience any, what they call, "tone suck"? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | PS As far as I know, the BOSS pedals are buffered. |
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Location: Jet City | There are no markings on the volume pedal that would denote which one it is. Could it be that once upon a time there was only one choice? |
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Location: SoCal | Damon, see if you can match it up here. |
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Location: Jet City | Thanks Noah.
Looks like I have the 250k model |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Cool ... is it at the end of your chain or at the beginning? |
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Location: Round Rock, TX | For solo acoustic:
Guitar -> Digitech Vocalist Live 4 (optional) -> Fishman SoloAmp
When the duo plays:
Guitar -> Whirlwind A/B/Y -> Digitech Vocalist Live 4 (optional) -> Line 6 POD HD500 (from VL4's guitar thru output) -> Mackie ProFX8 mixer -> Bose L1 (model 1) with 2 subs
With the band:
Guitar -> Whirlwind A/B/Y -> Digitech Vocalist Live 4 (optional) -> Line 6 POD HD500 (from VL4's guitar thru output) -> venue's PA (if the venue doesn't have a PA we use a Mackie CFX-16 into two Mackie SRM 450's and a Mackie sub.)
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Vocal mic -> VL4 (opt) -> mixer/Fishman |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | When it comes to my signal chain, I'm at the opposite end of minimalist. I rebuilt my board yet again about six months ago and have been very satisfied with it ever since. For the band, this thing works for both acoustic and electric. The J-Box (compressor/sustain) stays on all the time (which means I'm about ready to scrap the SMX dual compressor, which would then allow space for the Looper). The tuner, chorus, reverb and Jacques overdrive are wired into the Takamine DI’s FX loop which I use for electric work with the Zoom bypassed. All other pedals are in the chain between the Takamine and the Zoom. For acoustic work, I primarily use the J-Box and Zoom into which I've programmed all my customized presets. Guitar input comes into the Takamine which is required in order to send phantom power back to a Cool Tube preamp on a Takamine guitar. If I’m doing a solo gig, I’ll add the RC20 looper between the Zoom and the amp (although it might be on the board in a month or two). For most work, I use a Genz Acoustic Pro amp with an XLR out from the amp to the house board. The Genz is run completely flat, so it isn’t bad for occasional electric work. On occasion, I’ll use something out of the basement for electrics, most recently, a Vox AC15H1TVL along with an aux DI box for the house signal. If the gig is really small, like providing background instrumentals at an art gallery, I’ll use the ADD Cub and a much smaller travel board.
The only down side of this big pedal board is its outrageous weight. I need either a roadie or a custom ATA drag-along case with wheels on one end.
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by an4340:
Cool ... is it at the end of your chain or at the beginning? Second to last. I need the hardwire delay at the end to I can do delay effects with volume swells. |
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Location: Jet City | Brad, are you plugging the electric into the Tak DI input too?
I haven't tried having that in the electric signal path. I've had it off to the side at the end of the signal chain. I suppose if I included it into the setup on the poard that could make my life a bit easier.
Food for thought. This is EXACTLY why I posted this topic, thanks. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Damon67:
Brad, are you plugging the electric into the Tak DI input too? Yes. I use this rig for everything. For electrics, I simply bypass the Zoom and use the remaining pedals in various combinations, with the Tak DI+ serving as the first unit in the chain. This works for me because I generally play with a cleaner sound. YMMV. |
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Location: Jet City | Ah yes, that can make a huge difference, especially when we're doing the heavy distortion stuff.
I'll hafta try it out and see. |
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Talk about your live rigs....