Forgive me...
Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-17 3:56 PM (#39183)
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This morning, I awoke about 5 am in anticipation of driving over to the other coast (of Fl.) to look at a Collings OM that was for sale. I finally got away about 7 am, and got to the guys house about 10 am. I played the Collings, then a Weber roundbody, then a Bourgeois OM. I couldn't quite decide which one had the best (to me) sound, then he said, "I do have another one that I was thinking about selling" He then pulled out this Mahogany Martin 000 17S. I played it, and I'm afraid to say, I found it better sounding than all the other ones. I figured I'd post a couple of pics in spite of the thrashing I might take here, so here goes. Fire away...








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Tupperware
Posted 2008-05-17 4:10 PM (#39184 - in reply to #39183)
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Thrashing? Hell, that guitar looks AWESOME !!! I can only imagine how nice it must sound. I love the sound of mahogany in the right configuration guitar. I think Tony has a similar mahog Martin. I've got one like it in Spruce/Koa and love it. You've done well. Congratulations.

Dave

BTW, Isn't it cool how Martin makes the headstock so the strings don't rub on the wood? Brillient design.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-05-17 4:18 PM (#39185 - in reply to #39183)
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Day-um Jim, that's awesome! Knowing your 'taste' that must be quite a guitar. Major CONGRATS!

BTW, first dibs... Just hold onto it a lil' longer than usual until my 2nd mortgage is approved.

Guess I'll have to ya soon to get a first-hand report.
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KPaul
Posted 2008-05-17 4:37 PM (#39186 - in reply to #39183)
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That guitar is a true knock-out! :)

I've got a Martin D-15 and love the all mahogany tone. An 000, slotted, 12-fretter, mahogany Martin is just perfection in my book.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-17 5:07 PM (#39187 - in reply to #39183)
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I would have never given a second thought to an all mahogany guitar, until I played this one. The sound is so sweet and balanced. I hear it calling now...
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-05-17 5:12 PM (#39188 - in reply to #39183)
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Had a slothead D-15 which I got from Nick, later traded to Al with a few dollars for a 2006C.

Not sure about the D-15 but D-15S is a great guitar.

Martin did a great job on my D-25K2 all Koa. Now 28 years old.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-05-17 5:31 PM (#39189 - in reply to #39183)
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I figured I'd post a couple of pics in spite of the thrashing I might take here, so here goes. Fire away...
James, James, James.... You know darn well that "we', and this includes "you", are the most tolerant group of guitar homos on the web.

Nice guitar.
Very nice.
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Beal
Posted 2008-05-17 5:49 PM (#39190 - in reply to #39183)
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very nice. Your ears will like the break from spruce.
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G8r
Posted 2008-05-17 6:08 PM (#39191 - in reply to #39183)
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Beautiful!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-05-17 6:09 PM (#39192 - in reply to #39183)
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Jim: Congrats my friend...a beautiful Martin...I love my new OM and I know that you will love this one as much! Nice!
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Damon67
Posted 2008-05-17 6:26 PM (#39193 - in reply to #39183)
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If it sounds half as good as it looks, you've got a winner.

Congrats TJ!
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gulfcoast
Posted 2008-05-17 7:07 PM (#39194 - in reply to #39183)
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That Martin will make you want to give that Sweetwater -T away....
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TOPDOGJIM
Posted 2008-05-17 7:12 PM (#39195 - in reply to #39183)
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Nothing bad about that......
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-17 8:29 PM (#39196 - in reply to #39183)
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Well, maybe one more...I need to get Damon to swing by and take some pics for me. :D
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-05-17 8:59 PM (#39197 - in reply to #39183)
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Jim,

Another great git for "The Ol' Trader" :D

I've played a couple of 00015S models I liked a lot. An all mahogany guitar has a nice mellow sound. :cool:

Dave is right Martin has a great slothead design.
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couchflyer
Posted 2008-05-17 9:00 PM (#39198 - in reply to #39183)
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Hey Jim,

We forgive you. That is a great guitar.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-05-17 9:04 PM (#39199 - in reply to #39183)
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Tortie bridge pins from Temp????

They look real purdy on the Koa D-25K2.
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Beal
Posted 2008-05-17 9:19 PM (#39200 - in reply to #39183)
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I bet it has a manly neck.
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an4340
Posted 2008-05-17 10:08 PM (#39201 - in reply to #39183)
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Nice
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stephent28
Posted 2008-05-17 10:18 PM (#39202 - in reply to #39183)
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TJ, the first Collings C-10 Deluxe I got was (still is) all mahogany and the sound is just amazing.

To me, an all hog just screams out sitting on the street corner under the lamp on a moonlit night with some rotgut whiskey playing the blues.

it don't get no better.....NICE GIT and GREAT LOOKIN!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-05-17 10:34 PM (#39203 - in reply to #39183)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
To me, an all hog just screams out sitting on the street corner under the lamp on a moonlit night with some rotgut whiskey playing the blues.
Now that's a poetic but all so true picture! The soul is a soul regardless where it resides...
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kotadawg
Posted 2008-05-17 11:42 PM (#39204 - in reply to #39183)
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Jim,

Great grab. Do you still have my shipping address? Don't forget to send the tracking number when it ships.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-18 7:17 AM (#39205 - in reply to #39183)
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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
I bet it has a manly neck.
I was kind a thinkin' that would come up, YES IT IS! 1 3/4 :D

And Jack, I've already sent it out, didn't it get there yet?? :rolleyes:
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an4340
Posted 2008-05-18 7:52 AM (#39206 - in reply to #39183)
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I like your negotiating strategy ... get there early (for a musician), look at the collins, say nah, look at the Weber, say nah, then look at a Bourgois, say nah, man, you got anything else ... scarf up the Martin saying it'll do.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-18 8:03 AM (#39207 - in reply to #39183)
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Bootyful, Jim! Congrats!
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Designzilla
Posted 2008-05-18 10:34 AM (#39208 - in reply to #39183)
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Wow Jim, another beautiful guitar. How different does the mahogany sound?
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TexasDoc
Posted 2008-05-18 11:09 AM (#39209 - in reply to #39183)
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I've looked at an all-mahogany Martin for a while. Just never pulled the trigger before.

That one is very nice!
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Damon67
Posted 2008-05-18 2:31 PM (#39210 - in reply to #39183)
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I just saw one of these on our local Craigslist last night. $1200

Dunno if that's a good or bad price, but if anyone wants it I'll play go between if I get a chance to play it for a night before shipping :D
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-18 2:33 PM (#39211 - in reply to #39183)
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Steve, it sounds amazingly as good, to me, as my CEO,(which I never thought I'd say about another guitar) a little mellower with tons of sustain and depth for such a diminutive body.
I was fully intending on buying the Collings, and took my CEO along to do an A/B so I knew where it stood. If I would have just gone there and played the Collings, I would have bought it. But after the comparo, I decided it wasn't any better at all, much less to spend 3k. This brings up an interesting point: Do you all think I am just "attuned" to the Martin sound so much that I think the Collings was inferior? (may be a bad choice of words) Actually, I think the Collings sounded remarkably like the CA GX. More midrange than the Martin.
On a side note,the gentleman who is selling these had been to Newport and ordered two VERY expensive units, hence the sell off of these. But, he was keeping one guitar of the 5 in the room,.. a Martin OM. I felt the Bourgeois OM (Adirondack top) was the best sound of the other three, with the Collings OM (also an Ad top) coming in close 2nd and the Weber Roundbody (Coco bolo body with Engleman top) a distant 3rd.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-05-18 2:34 PM (#39212 - in reply to #39183)
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Sorry, I lied, it's 1300


Seattle Craigslist Martin 000-17S
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-18 2:35 PM (#39213 - in reply to #39183)
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Originally posted by Damon67:
I just saw one of these on our local Craigslist last night. $1200

Dunno if that's a good or bad price, but if anyone wants it I'll play go between if I get a chance to play it for a night before shipping :D
Damon, I think that 1300 would be a great price, depending on shape. The one I bought was a little more than that, but it's in almost un- played condition. From what I understand, there aren't many of these around (S 17) and the Mahog is getting more scarce.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-05-18 2:44 PM (#39214 - in reply to #39183)
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I think it looks sweet. I'd love to play one Jim. If you need pics taken, send it along. I should be able to get it back to you in say... 3 weeks? ;)

Maybe I'll pretend that I have some money and call this guy up and go play his. :D
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-18 2:45 PM (#39215 - in reply to #39183)
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Why don't you just drive over here and visit...Bring your camera and that red blanket. :D
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Damon67
Posted 2008-05-18 3:06 PM (#39216 - in reply to #39183)
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That sounds kinda weird Jim. :eek:

I can do it on a table too.

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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-18 3:21 PM (#39217 - in reply to #39183)
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I think this is starting to go the wrong way....
("not that there's anything wrong with that") :D
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-05-18 3:26 PM (#39218 - in reply to #39183)
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Originally posted by Damon67:
I can do it on a table too.
Well ya darn well better remove that git first!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-05-18 3:29 PM (#39219 - in reply to #39183)
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Yes, and I think I'll leave the room too.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-05-18 4:48 PM (#39220 - in reply to #39183)
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TJ, you might just prefer the "Martin" sound over the Collings. Nothing wrong with that.

For me, the Collings are a tad more "crisp" than the Martins that I have owned and I prefer the Collings sound.

Course, were just pickin at the fleas cause without a side by side comparison, most of us would be more than happy with either.
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