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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 92
Location: San Francisco, CA | I need a "Cliff Notes" quickie version of Ovation model collectability. Could someone state the models made over the years in terms of collectability?
Many thanks!
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | You could try Ovation Gallery... |
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Location: SoCal | Or OvationTribute |
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Location: Utah | Collectibility wise, an original slothead would be tops. Prototypes would be second. After that dunno, a lot depends on what you like. Most production models are not truly collectible in that they aren't likely to gain value or even keep up with inflation. Yet many are superb guitars as players, like the early acoustics which you can find for $300 to $500 and they blow away most any new guitar that costs thousands. My 1976 Patriot compares sonically at least equal with my Adamas.
Deacon, then Breadwinner, then Viper, then Preacher Deluxe, then Preacher would be my order of market desirability in the old solid body electrics. Again, not likely to be a money making prospect to buy one.
Generally the "Collectors Edition" is not more or less collectible today than other models, with the exception of the '87 if I got it right.
Any used Ovation or Adamas is likely to hold it's value if you take care of it. |
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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 92
Location: San Francisco, CA | Thanks to all!
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969
| Originally posted by FlySig:
Generally the "Collectors Edition" is not more or less collectible today than other models, with the exception of the '87 if I got it right. Don't forget the "Book" Elite... |
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1453
Location: Texas | Originally posted by FlySig:
Deacon, then Breadwinner, then Viper, then Preacher Deluxe, then Preacher would be my order of market desirability in the old solid body electrics. Again, not likely to be a money making prospect to buy one. No UKII? |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | Here's my take on the question:
Original shiny bowls
Early Breadwinner
Deacon 12
Typhoon Fretless Bass
Slothead
Early Adamas 1
1537/1547
1987 Collectors
Ultra GP
Book Elite
Adamas Millenium
OFC1
OFC2
USA Doubleneck |
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Location: Jet City | If you are talking about how much a guitar is percieved to be worth by the general public, I'd say the Ultra GP is the most "Collectible". Especially if your criteria is based on an overinflated worth.
At least with a slothead you can come up with some valid reasons for it's collectibility. There's no reason for the GP other than Josh Homme playing one while in Kyuss & some with QOTSA. They're great guitars don't get me wrong, but a comparable asian made LP copy from the same era wouldn't fetch more than $500. In my opinion, at $2k+, it's just plain silly. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Go buy Bobbo a beer and talk about it and play some of his, specially that tan one.....
Cliff can write you some notes but his writing is kinda hard to read sometimes... |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | 1538 perhaps?
Mine's still for sale even. |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Here's my take on the question:
Original shiny bowls... I think you could go a step farther and break down the shiny bowls. I've found their "collectibility" at least in terms of their difficulty in finding and obtaining to fall into this order:
Contemporary Folk Classic
Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer
Glen Campbell 12-string
Josh White with zig-zag rosette
Small sound hole 12-strings
Balladeers, Deluxe Balladeers and Classics |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Depending upon features, of course, I think the one-off custom builds may have more value relative to production models, but the actual amount of the increased value is likely dependent upon the subjective perception of the original owner and not likely to reflect the custom model's actual higher cost. Therefore, for the original and still current owner, like me, actual value of a custom is meaningless because its perceived value to me is way up there. |
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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 92
Location: San Francisco, CA | What would be the going price these days for a nice Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer?
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Location: Tennessee | The last one I know of that changed hands went for just north of 2k. But that was a while ago and you don't see them that often.
Beal had a good idea ... you ought to come over to CasaBobbo and check a few things out. No GCDB, but some other stuff that should be on most lists. MarkInBoise is gonna be here on Monday the 30th, so I thought maybe have a bit of a wider gathering. Mark your calendar Bill and come on over. I'll send you an email.
And the tan one is the one that beats all others... no doubt about that. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
And the tan one is the one that beats all others... no doubt about that. A tan is always a good thing.
Go to Casa Bobbo..... |
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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 92
Location: San Francisco, CA | Thanks for the invite, Bobbo! Unfortunately, I'll be on vacation in Vail, CO at that time.
Get your tail on back over to Cameron's!
Bill |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Bill, drive down to Denver from Vail. I have a few guitars lying around. |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4827
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Collect the whole set!
It's more valuable when complete. |
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Joined: September 2002 Posts: 806
Location: Seymour, Tennessee | If you're ever around my neck of the woods, you can try out my shiney bowl.
Almost 43 years old and still sounds and looks miraculous. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by stephent28:
Bill, drive down to Denver from Vail. I have a few guitars lying around. And I know where there are a few more as well. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Brad, your collection now shames mine. |
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Joined: January 2003 Posts: 92
Location: San Francisco, CA | Thanks to all for the quick history lesson!
Bill |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by stephent28:
Brad, your collection now shames mine. Only in quantity, my friend. You have some spectacular modelss . . . the Collings, twin custom baritones, several from boutique builders, a Martin OM42 Koa Ltd, and an original slothead, to name just a few. |
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1453
Location: Texas | Originally posted by Michael R. Winters:
If you're ever around my neck of the woods, you can try out my shiney bowl.
Almost 43 years old and still sounds and looks miraculous. YOUR shiny bowl? I thought you bought it for your Mom?
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 841
Location: CA | What does "collectibility" mean exactly? You can collect everything from matchbooks to airplanes. If it means "collecting rare examples", see above. If it means "collecting prime examples," again, see above. If it means "collecting examples that will increase in value the fastest," stick to Martins or old Fender Strats and Teles. |
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Joined: September 2002 Posts: 806
Location: Seymour, Tennessee | Standing;
I'm talking about MY 1968 Deluxe Balladeer my Dad gave me.
My Mom just bought a K-1111 (it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow), it will eventually be mine too though :)
Onnne Shiney Bowl for Michael, AH AH AH
Twooo Shiney Bowls for Michael, AH AH AH |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Congrats on the new future guitar, Mike. When you get the reissue and original together, be sure to let us know how they compare. |
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1453
Location: Texas | Originally posted by Michael R. Winters:
Standing;
I'm talking about MY 1968 Deluxe Balladeer my Dad gave me.
My Mom just bought a K-1111 (it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow), it will eventually be mine too though :)
Onnne Shiney Bowl for Michael, AH AH AH
Twooo Shiney Bowls for Michael, AH AH AH I knew you wouldn't steal one from your mother… ;)
I hope she'll let you borrow it for a side-by-side comparison. |
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