Why has the Adamas?
AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-23 6:01 PM (#351889)
Subject: Why has the Adamas?


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Why has the Adam I am selling got the round plate in the centre near the bottom of the back, and the gold writing at the top, where other 1687's that I have seen have got the round plate to one side with the gold writing on the plate itself?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=28068300831...
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-23 6:05 PM (#351890 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?


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If that link to the photo doesn't then use the full link here, its photo 3 showing the back, its different!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280683008319#h...
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-05-23 6:05 PM (#351891 - in reply to #351889)
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Your OFC name looks like "Adamas Suck"
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-23 6:10 PM (#351892 - in reply to #351889)
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No it doesn't that would need two "S", number one Adamas guitars are amazing in tone, looks, and quality, I have always wanted one after seeing Mark Knopfler play his in 1985. And number 2 Sucks if what a vacuum cleaner does, I am not American.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-23 6:13 PM (#351893 - in reply to #351889)
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Most of the time you have to use all lower case with no spaces, it should read "Adamas UK" I had no idea it would cause a problem and in the UK sucks is NOT a word in use except for sucking something like a lolly.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2011-05-23 8:10 PM (#351894 - in reply to #351889)
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"Lolly" = candy. (Translation for our US cousins).
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stephent28
Posted 2011-05-23 8:55 PM (#351895 - in reply to #351889)
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In answer to your very valid question, maybe Beal will chime in with the answer.
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Beal
Posted 2011-05-23 9:05 PM (#351896 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?



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cause it's not that old.
the oldest had the door off to the side.
Then it was moved to the middle and the writing moved to the heel.
Then the writing went away.
Now the next question will be when did all this happen(at what serial number)
Answer is I don't remember so people will have to chime in here.
I know 220 has the door to the side.
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G8r
Posted 2011-05-23 9:16 PM (#351897 - in reply to #351889)
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You started signing at 600, right? Mine is after that, with writing at the heel, so somewhere between 220 and 700 or so the hatch and writing moved.
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Nick B.
Posted 2011-05-23 11:32 PM (#351898 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?



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Nice guitar, good luck with the sale. Has the neck been replaced? I thought wide neck models (1 7/8") were 1689s.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2011-05-24 12:03 AM (#351899 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?


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oh boy i know about using those capital letters in the ofc posts,

they came over to my house and took the caps lock right off of my keyboard over 5 years ago . these ofc-er's are one tough bunch.

the only thing that i can type in bold letters are . GWB
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fillhixx
Posted 2011-05-24 2:21 AM (#351900 - in reply to #351889)
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That's only because most Americans cannot spell, nor use punctuation with the punctilious perspicacity required by those actually fluent in English.

...AND ALL CAPS LOOKS LIKE YELLING on the internet.
Whereas, AdamasUK would actually communicate efficiently and effectively on this board.
:-p


BTW;
Welcome aboard AdamasUK!
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bvince
Posted 2011-05-24 8:17 AM (#351901 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?



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Very Nice Guitar there AdamasUK! Welcome to the club, and welcome to a place where diversity and opinions abound. Why are you parting with such a nice instrument?
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Slipkid
Posted 2011-05-24 11:02 AM (#351902 - in reply to #351889)
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By the way Adamasuk... It has been a policy around here that if you sell an item through the OFC that you make donation to help with the upkeep of the board.
It's not like someone is going to come after you if you don't. If you plan on sticking around, it's just the polite thing to do.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-24 1:53 PM (#351903 - in reply to #351889)
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Hi I made a donation before I could get onto the website to post, I thought I had to make a donation to enable me to post so I did, but it turned out that I had to post in the welcome centre first before I was allowed to post in the rest of the forum.
Incidentally Lolly ="Ice Lolly" is what they would call a popsicle in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_pop

Lolly is also old cockney slang for money = Bread, wedge etc. But I wouldn't want to suck on money, lol.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-24 1:58 PM (#351904 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?


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Hi, the Adamas number is 892-96, I was told its a 1979 bought in 1981. The wide neck is normal it gives an option of either size in the Owners guide.
I notice that the reissue is 1-11/16" so different to either original neck!
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-05-24 2:09 PM (#351905 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by Adamasuk:

Lolly is also old cockney slang for money
So THAT'S what they mean when they say Schroeder is always fondling his lolly!
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-24 2:10 PM (#351906 - in reply to #351889)
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Talking about lollies, we went to Orlando last October to do the Disney/Universal thing, whilst there I became addicted to the ice creams and lollies, Mickey ice cream sandwiches, and frozen fruit lollies real strawberries, and pineapple, I ate about 6 a day for two weeks and spent £300 on coke! I have never been so hot and burnt in my life and it was Autumn not summer!
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james37214
Posted 2011-05-25 12:18 AM (#351907 - in reply to #351889)
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Sounds like you might have been smoking some "Mickey Jane". Did you put that L300 in coke up you nose or down your throat??
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-25 9:01 AM (#351908 - in reply to #351889)
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Ha ha, I spent £300 on coke because it was over 80 degrees everyday for two weeks walking for miles around the parks. And the drinks were stupidly expensive!
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Waskel
Posted 2011-05-25 9:20 AM (#351909 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by AdamasUK:
And the drinks were stupidly expensive!
People who drink soda pop when they need hydration aren't particularly bright, either.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-26 8:49 AM (#351910 - in reply to #351889)
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I didn't need re hydrating, I was fully hydrated, it was just boiling hot and I needed cold drinks, I don't know how anyone could live in those temperatures. I don't like water and I drink a lot of diet coke anyway since I gave up the fags, you never get rid of the craving after you've been a 40 a day smoker.
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Waskel
Posted 2011-05-26 8:55 AM (#351911 - in reply to #351889)
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Ooh, aspartame, even better...


And what does diet coke have to do with smoking? I smoked for 40 years and hardly ever drink pop. Certainly don't crave it.
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bvince
Posted 2011-05-26 9:01 AM (#351912 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?



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Congratulations on giving up the cigarrettes. I just watched a good friend slowly die of lung disease, and my father two years ago the same way. It was a ghastly painful way to go. As far as the heat goes ... That's why I moved to Michigan, but that was apparently the other side of the pendulum, and perhaps a bit TOO cold. A wonderful guitar you have there ... I hope someone here buys it.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-26 1:22 PM (#351913 - in reply to #351889)
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"Soda pop"!!!! Ha!!!! I take it you mean fizzy drinks?
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-26 1:23 PM (#351914 - in reply to #351889)
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What does diet coke have to do with giving up the fags? Well when you stop smoking you crave and those cravings are filled by something else, it can be anything, a lot of people eat sweets.
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-05-26 1:26 PM (#351915 - in reply to #351889)
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Maybe you should have stuck with the fags. Weaser did and he seems happy.
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Waskel
Posted 2011-05-26 1:35 PM (#351916 - in reply to #351889)
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Seems like it would make more sense to replace it with something that wasn't potentially just as (if not more) dangerous to your health, that's all.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-26 1:40 PM (#351917 - in reply to #351889)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2011-05-26 4:11 PM (#351918 - in reply to #351889)
Subject: Re: Why has the Adamas?


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Adamas 1688-94 #542 has the side door access...so does 1687-8 #119-86 as did 1687-8 #190-91, and 1687-9 #189-89: all built in 1978 (#'s 77 - 608);
Your 1687-8 #892 was built in 1979 (#'s 609 - 1058) probably mid year. The Adamas guitars were model numbers 1687-(corresponding color) for the standard necks and 1689-(corresponding color) for the wide necks. Since yours is clearly stamped 1687-8 (for blue) it is a standard neck width guitar.
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G8r
Posted 2011-05-26 4:42 PM (#351919 - in reply to #351889)
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Not sure where you got the information, as stated your eBay auction, that the standard nut width is 1-5/8. The standard on all Ovation/Adamas 6-strings is 1-11/16. The "standard" wide nut is 1-3/4, while a few models (notably nylon string and 12-string) sported 1-7/8 nuts. Unless it was mis-labeled at the factory (a rare occurrence, but it has happened), this 1687 would be a 1-11/16 nut. Trying to measure it with a ruler would be inaccurate. You'd need to measure with calipers to be certain.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2011-05-26 9:59 PM (#351920 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by AdamasUK:
Aw, some guy put his tag on it. Should make him clean it off.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 7:49 AM (#351921 - in reply to #351889)
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The neck sizes WERE 1-5/8", and 1-7/8", this is the wide neck, please do not give people the wrong information as fact.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-05-27 8:04 AM (#351922 - in reply to #351889)
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Standard nut width on Ovation and Adamas 6-string guitars was, and still is 1-11/16ths, NOT 1-5/8ths. No idea where your information came from but it's wrong. The original Josh White, Folklore, Country Artist and Wideneck Adamas were 1-7/8ths. The 1-3/4" option found on the later Folklore, Country Artist and a few others is a fairly recent development. As several people have already noted, this is a 1689 with a 1-7/8ths neck, wrongly labelled as a 1687
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Beal
Posted 2011-05-27 8:25 AM (#351923 - in reply to #351889)
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As Sir Temp has rightly pointed out the nut sizes were 1 11/16 for the narrow neck and 1 7/8 for the wide neck.
A 1 5/8 neck was never made.
Giving up fags is good
Giving up diet coke is good too
Everything at disney is obscenely expensive
But it seems everything will kill you so I go back to the words of Paul Thorn

"we all got to die of something
it's sad, but it's true
at least if I drown your memory
I won't die over you
there is no sure fire remedy
but when those tear drops start
I found Tequila
is good for the heart"
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G8r
Posted 2011-05-27 8:30 AM (#351924 - in reply to #351889)
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Another VFB morning, Beal (or TFB as the case may be)?
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 8:47 AM (#351925 - in reply to #351889)
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""""""Standard nut width on Ovation and Adamas 6-string guitars was, and still is 1-11/16ths, NOT 1-5/8ths. No idea where your information came from but it's wrong. """"""""

Ovation apparently have got it wrong then, the makers think the necks were 1-5/8 and 1-7/8, you'd think they would know wouldn't you, I'm being made to look a bellend and the info is from the People who made the guitar.

Here is the section in the book that came with it.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 8:49 AM (#351926 - in reply to #351889)
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So all the people who are saying "No idea where you got that information" have never read the book that came with the guitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-05-27 8:50 AM (#351927 - in reply to #351889)
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I have the book. The book is wrong. The history of the company and a set of calipers proves that in about 3 seconds flat. Not to mention that the former CEO of Kaman Corp and Ovation Guitars just confirmed the facts on the other (unneccessary) thread about this.
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G8r
Posted 2011-05-27 8:52 AM (#351928 - in reply to #351889)
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Hard to know to which of your multiple for sale posts scattered all over the forum (spam, anyone?) one should respond.

You should know this Beal character is the one who signed your friggin' guitar. Now if you want to keep arguing with the person who ran the company for over 20 years, and whose dad founded the company, please do so and show yourself for a fool.

Oh, and coming onto a fan forum for the sole purpose of accessing a target audience to sell your guitar, and then spamming with multiple posts in violation of Forum rules and arguing belligerently with Forum members who know a helluva lot more about the brand and its history than you do, isn't going to make you a sale. Just sayin'.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-27 9:12 AM (#351929 - in reply to #351889)
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I tell you its a wide neck. You don't know why I start a new thread??????????? I will tell you. Its because someone reads in the thread "thats not a wide neck" and then people see that and think its not a wide neck. The people who have read that might never re visit the thread to see that it IS a wide neck. Therefore to try and set the facts straight I have to make sure people who aren't going to re visit the old thread see the new one. I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT IT PEOPLE WOULD STOP POSTING THINGS LIKE THAT. This isn't my guitar, I have wanted one since 1985 and never seen one in any shop before, I love it, its a very loud guitar acoustically, and looks AMAZING, I love the boutiqe' ness of the guitar, even that smoky wood smell from it, its a joy to open the case, I love the whole thing, the wood around the sound holes, the glitter, everything. I would buy it of the person myself but the neck it too wide, my hands are a lot smaller than womens hand, they are child size and I can't play it.
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Beal
Posted 2011-05-27 9:54 AM (#351930 - in reply to #351889)
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Gator,
No it's a lovely morning and I'm off to play a Mexican again. third straight day of sunshine, I might get to like this....
Played out last night and the night before. Got tonight planned as well and tomorrow too. Without rain the northeast is pretty nice.
They still can't make iced tea worth a shit up north.
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stephent28
Posted 2011-05-27 2:28 PM (#351931 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by Beal:
They still can't make iced tea worth a shit up north.
so true!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2011-05-27 2:42 PM (#351932 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Originally posted by Beal:
They still can't make iced tea worth a shit up north.
so true!
At least it's not that sugar flavored piss they serve down south... bleccccchhhhh

Sorry... I just had to comment. I heard people raving about "sweet tea" for years. Finally tried it a few years back... There isn't enough mouthwash on the planet to get that foul taste out.

Now full-disclosure... to be fair.. I don't put sugar on anything. I like bitter chocolate, not sweet. I take the icing off of cini-buns and other pastry. I can't see how anyone can have that much sugar in one glass of anything..

but I digress......
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bvince
Posted 2011-05-27 4:23 PM (#351933 - in reply to #351889)
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I love my tea like I love my music ... Suweeeet! (:
I was born a yankee, but I guess I've become a rebel huh? If it aint' sweet, it aint' tea. i don't CARE about my pancrease either.
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stephent28
Posted 2011-05-27 4:40 PM (#351934 - in reply to #351889)
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Miles, when it is true "sweet" tea, I agree with you 100%.

but make some Sun Tea and sweeten it with some lemon and you have one of the most refreshing drinks ever!
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G8r
Posted 2011-05-27 4:49 PM (#351935 - in reply to #351889)
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Born and raised in the South, can't stand that syrupy sweet stuff they drink for tea here. But, it helps keep me in business...Stephen, +1 on the sun tea with lemon.
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FlySig
Posted 2011-05-27 5:16 PM (#351936 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by dark bar:
Maybe you should have stuck with the fags. Weaser did and he seems happy.
My English cousin once asked me when we were teens if my parents allowed me to have fags. I've never been all that comfortable around his side of the family since then.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-05-27 5:25 PM (#351937 - in reply to #351889)
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Yeah, but imagine THEIR disappointment after you told them y'all were having Hooters for dinner.
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-05-27 5:43 PM (#351938 - in reply to #351889)
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Are you kidding? A toasted silicone blob is better than MOST British food.
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standing
Posted 2011-05-27 6:01 PM (#351939 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by dark bar:
Are you kidding? A toasted silicone blob is better than MOST British food.
That depends on whether it's a standard blob or a wide blob…
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-05-27 6:15 PM (#351940 - in reply to #351889)
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Edited. Wrong thread.
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-29 11:56 AM (#351941 - in reply to #351889)
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What do you mean by "British Food"? The food here is everything, and top quality. Chinese, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, Thai, Indian etc. I mainly eat Chinese.
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-05-29 1:03 PM (#351942 - in reply to #351889)
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Originally posted by AdamasUK:
What do you mean by "British Food"?
I speaking specifically of "bubbles and squeak"
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AdamasUK
Posted 2011-05-29 2:56 PM (#351943 - in reply to #351889)
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Never had it, I don't even know what that is! Lol.
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