do you agree with this ?
guitarwannabee
Posted 2011-11-27 11:47 PM (#346531)
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rolling stone gave their top ten list of the greatest guitarists, do you agree ?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/rolling-stone-magaz... GWB
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anchbartdude
Posted 2011-11-28 12:00 AM (#346532 - in reply to #346531)
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I think anyone can find fault with any list of "greatest" anything. It all depends on the writer, not the ability of the artist. For # 1 of course Hendrix changed the way generations of guitarists have played, but so have Chet Atkins, Y. Malmsteen, K. Hammett, Al Di Meola, Michael Romero, ect..... I would not have a couple of them on my list, but I don't write for Rolling Stone.... I don't even have my picture on the cover of, Didn't buy 10 copies for my mother.
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muzza
Posted 2011-11-28 4:44 AM (#346533 - in reply to #346531)
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In no particular order...

Peter Green
Lindsay Buckingham
Nils Lofgren
Joe Walsh
David Gilmour
Eric Clapton
Keith Richard
J. J. Cale
Billy Gibbons

You can fight over who takes the last place. No denying Hendrix's ability and influence, but I never 'got' Hendrix.
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FrankSmith
Posted 2011-11-28 8:00 AM (#346534 - in reply to #346531)
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My top 3 would be:

1.Hendrix
2.Clapton
3.Van Halen

After that it gets muddy, but certainly Hendrix is number one. Realize these choices are geared to readers of Rolling Stone.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-11-28 8:30 AM (#346535 - in reply to #346531)
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Top 3?

1. Segovia
2. Reinhardt
3. Atkins

They each taught the world they're own style of music. Everybody else falls in way below them.

Rolling Stone is an ass of a magazine that can't see past rock n roll. They should specify that they are only looking at one catagory of music, but they don't seem capable of doing that.....
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jay
Posted 2011-11-28 8:32 AM (#346536 - in reply to #346531)
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I respect Chuck Berry for his place in history. I love his music. I love the fact he still plays 1x month in St Louis....that said, It wouldnt take me 5 minutes to find 10 kids on youtube that could smoke him on the frets, at his prime.

Chuck Berry? My Ding a Ling was his only #1 hit.

And for this they left out the likes of Chet, Tommy and or Jerry.

crazy.
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alpep
Posted 2011-11-28 10:04 AM (#346537 - in reply to #346531)
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where is frank zappa?

where is john cippolina?


lists are just that lists


let your own heart be the judge and who cares if your fav is not on the list ??????
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Beal
Posted 2011-11-28 10:28 AM (#346538 - in reply to #346531)
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If it's a rolling stone list NO, I don't agree with it.
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fillhixx
Posted 2011-11-28 12:30 PM (#346539 - in reply to #346531)
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Do I agree with this list?
No.

But there will be no consensus on this list until
shortly after we run out of beer.


.....and we will have to agree that second-best is
a 27 way tie, third-best is a 52 way tie, and
last place is a two way tie. But we'll have to arm
wrestle for which two.
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mbedard
Posted 2011-11-28 12:58 PM (#346540 - in reply to #346531)
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I personally say that any "Top 10" list that doesn't include Stevie Ray Vaughn is a joke. Respectable players all on this list, but no SRV? Give me a break...

It would also be nice to see Trey Anastasio from Phish recognized at some point. He's a virtuoso in so many different styles -- blues, rock, bluegrass, jazz, heavy metal, beebop, etc., that I find the overall lack of recognition as a whole over the years kind of ridiculous...
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Damon67
Posted 2011-11-28 3:58 PM (#346541 - in reply to #346531)
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Al DiMeola deserves to be on a list once in a while.

And speaking of Jazz musicians, how 'bout that Beal?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-11-28 4:05 PM (#346542 - in reply to #346531)
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Originally posted by Damon67:

And speaking of Jazz musicians, how 'bout that Beal?
Uh, no. They're talking good players.....
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2011-11-28 4:12 PM (#346543 - in reply to #346531)
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Originally posted by alpep:
where is frank zappa?
where is john cippolina?
lists are just that lists
let your own heart be the judge and who cares if your fav is not on the list ??????
+1

I think the title "the greatest guitar player in history" is a bit misleading based on the writeup. I think a better title might be "the guitar player with the greatest influence on guitar playing in history" might be more accurate based on the text. Besides, as just the greatest guitar players "in history"? Really... this list makes no sense to me. No Acoustic players? Just seems odd.

So I'm going to choose to think they meant those with the greatest influence. I don't think there is a "TOP TEN" of guitar players. I think there is a top 4 or maybe 5, and it has little to do with their musicianship as much as it has to do with their vision and how they inspired the rest of us.


Hendrix: while I never really "got" him, he paved the way. If he didn't someone else would have, but he was there first, and so he gets on the list.

Zappa and Van Halen: Again, you don't have to be a fan of their work to recognize their influences in the people we do admire.

Chuck Berry: Again, for his influence on those who many do admire.

After those 4 as the top four in no particular order, I don't think there is a real list. Page, Clapton, Beck and I'll add Vai, Rhoads were all great players and some ground-breakers in their own right, but I'm not sure they changed the way the guitar is played as much as the four on my top four.
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nikon4004
Posted 2011-11-28 4:48 PM (#346544 - in reply to #346531)
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Anyone else notice that Phil Keagy was missing from that list?
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Designzilla
Posted 2011-11-28 4:57 PM (#346545 - in reply to #346531)
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Lists are pure bullsh!t and speculation, but people love to read 'em and argue.

Lists are one of the most successful ways to get people talking and arguing and to drive traffic your website or blog and/or sell magazines.

The only time I have ever visited the Rolling Stone website was by clicking on a link to one of these ridiculous lists. Likely the same can be said for a lot of people.

The only time I bought an actual copy of the magazine in the last 10-15 years was recently when Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton were on the cover. There was a very good joint interview with the two of them.
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Designzilla
Posted 2011-11-28 5:01 PM (#346546 - in reply to #346531)
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Also, any list like this that doesn't have Jordan Rivers on it is highly suspect...
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-11-28 5:13 PM (#346547 - in reply to #346531)
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Even HE knows that he's one of the worlds top 10 guitarists. (Why doesn't anyone else agree???)
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2011-11-29 10:35 PM (#346548 - in reply to #346531)
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Originally posted by Designzilla:
Lists are pure bullsh!t
Yeah, they are that for sure.
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rick endres
Posted 2011-11-29 11:46 PM (#346549 - in reply to #346531)
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Now they released the Top 100 Guitarists in the mag. Most of the above mentioned pickers were on there, plus a host of others. The difference: this list was composed by a jury of their peers - guitarists like Page, Clapton, Robbie Robertson, Joe Walsh, et. al. A list like that would have a bit more validity. I agreed with most of the choices except for the glaring omission of John Fogerty.

In the end, though, it's just a list...
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2011-11-30 12:45 AM (#346550 - in reply to #346531)
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I saw Joe Walsh on Hollywood Squares once - he didn't get not one question right - not even the ones about music - damn good player though...lol
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dobro
Posted 2011-11-30 9:48 AM (#346551 - in reply to #346531)
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These lists are published fairly often. They're always different. Their sole purpose is to generate controversy and discussion. It is an act of MEMORY. I like these lists even if they always begin with Hendrix (love Jimi, but... well, you know). Just as an example: It is great to see mention of Rory G. or Peter Green in a journal that deals with Lady Caca and Jizz'n Beaver.
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scooterboy
Posted 2011-11-30 10:34 AM (#346552 - in reply to #346531)
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Originally posted by Designzilla:
Lists are pure bullsh!t and speculation, but people love to read 'em and argue.

Lists are one of the most successful ways to get people talking and arguing and to drive traffic your website or blog and/or sell magazines.
My sentiments exactly.

Any "best" list of any type (guitarists, sports plays, athletes, singers, actors, etc) are a complete waste of time. Topics like these are all subjective - how can there be a definitive "best"?

Only two types of responses are typically generated:

"I can't believe {x} rated so high - they suck!"

"I can't believe {y} rated so low - they're the best!"

All subjective - waste of time.
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Waskel
Posted 2011-11-30 11:47 AM (#346553 - in reply to #346531)
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Let's make a list of our most and least favorite lists.
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dobro
Posted 2011-11-30 12:32 PM (#346554 - in reply to #346531)
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Here's an idea: Let's first make a list of the top, say, five or ten GENRES narrowly defined as "favorites" on OFC. Then WITHIN each category let's vote for the top ten. Maybe acoustic/electric subdivisions, where they apply.

Example:

Blues Rock 65-75
Classical (Nylon, trad. repertoire)
Bebop
Early Jazz-Rock Fusion 69-78
Contemporary Fuzak
New Wave 79- 86
Old School Metal 69-79
Psychedelic Rock
Progressive Rock
Conemporary Country
Bluegrass
Trad Blues
Flamenco
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-11-30 1:21 PM (#346555 - in reply to #346531)
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I'm gonna have to go with Matt Smith for all of the categories listed.
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Damon67
Posted 2011-11-30 1:23 PM (#346556 - in reply to #346531)
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Originally posted by rick endres:
Now they released the Top 100 Guitarists in the mag...

...I agreed with most of the choices except for the glaring omission of John Fogerty.
and DiMeola
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stepchildusmc
Posted 2011-12-03 12:02 AM (#346557 - in reply to #346531)
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cant believe you would put bebop on there and not celtic rap ! list are only published to sell issues and i have enough of my own, don't need to buy someone elses(most here can testify to that).
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Oddball
Posted 2011-12-04 2:28 PM (#346558 - in reply to #346531)
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FWIW, Chuck Berry had a lot more hits than "Dingaling" which would certainly top the list of 100 stupidest songs of all time.

Among them: Maybelline, Sweet Little Sixteen, Memphis, No Particular Place to Go, Roll Over Beethoven and perhaps the best cover of Johnny B. Good ever done.

I agree that any "best" is suspect to the times and the people compiling it. Another "top 100" done a few years ago by, I think, Guitar Player mag, had (along with bios and best songs/albums) quotes from the artists themselves or people who knew them. My favorites were from Billy Gibbons ("The secret to our success? Never add a fourth chord.") and Ozzie Osbourne, speaking about Randy Rhoads ("He was too good to last.") Ha ha ha, Thanks Ozzman.
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jay
Posted 2011-12-04 5:04 PM (#346559 - in reply to #346531)
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WIW, Chuck Berry had a lot more hits than "Dingaling"
Of course he did...truly the foundation of modern Rock and Roll.

But "dingaling" was, sad to say, his only #1 hit.
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