|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | I received these today! Two of the likely four "Books" that are in circulation with the OFC.
My goal is to post a photographic record of each of these for all to enjoy and to keep the momentum going.
The Books Album
I believe these books were sent into circulation starting in 2007 and that there are two others that have been going since 2003. I started one of those and it had a route sheet attached to the inside cover. I also believe that it received a good drenching while sitting at a doorstep waiting to be noticed by the recipient.
I would like to see those put back in circulation and receive them to record the story they tell.
I wish to make a couple of assumptions and set some guidelines on these books. I feel empowered to do so for the following reasons:
1) I have some level of seniority here having signed on in 2003 and I have started one of the books myself.
2) My post count proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that I truly need a life and purpose... such as this one.
3) I am an obsessive SoB and will pursue the task of documenting and circulating these treasures (that get little respect from the Non-O Fans).
4) I thought of it first.
Having self qualified myself I offer up these guidelines:
A - Books need to move. Take them to wonderful places and take their picture. Then pass them on.
B - Books need to be available at OFC Gatherings.
C - Trinkets should be of little monetary but significant personal value.
D - To take a trinket you must leave a trinket.
E - Keep the "Books" Family friendly.
I will label one of the books "Meuti" for his brilliant idea of putting the Book in a padded cover and for it's European flavor.
The other Book I will label "Ozzie" as it has gone downunder and back.
Please forward any of your Book Shot's to me and I will place them in the appropriate album on the ning site. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | Oh, and one more thing...
|
|
|
|
Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Woodster for President! |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1453
Location: Texas | Awesome Woody, thanks for tackling the project. If anyone objects to you appointing yourself, consider this post a nomination.... and a vote... and the polls just closed... You win! ;) |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Woody... are you saying you found the old books from the first time we sent them around?
If so, my name is in there somewhere |
|
|
|
Joined: August 2009 Posts: 602
Location: Hanau, Hessen, Germany | Somehow I'm starting to feel so V.I.P... covergirl for the last OFC-Calendar and now this... Thank you Woody :D |
|
|
|
Joined: August 2007 Posts: 1008
Location: Tuscany, Italy | Woodster for President + 1 !!
Wow ... it's nice to see the book and all that candies & pics after couple of years..... :) |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | "Woody... are you saying you found the old books from the first time we sent them around?
If so, my name is in there somewhere"
I do believe there are two (definately at least one) earlier books in circulation. Actually... not IN circulation... likely set aside, buried, in the "oh, yah" pile with someone.
PRESIDENT? What did I do wrong? :eek: |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | OK, how's 'bout Speaker Of The House?
Since, we're all Representatives!
Great work, Michael!! |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1453
Location: Texas | Woody; does one of those two have my "autograph" on the inside back cover? |
|
|
|
Joined: July 2010 Posts: 187
Location: Nahant, MA | This is a great idea!
I had the pleasure of reading and signing the one on the right...the pinktober hard rock pin and cape cod/black dog are from me.
Standing, I think you may have signed the one on the right, but not entirely sure. |
|
|
|
Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | don't send them to me, I'm not signing any more books......makes them worthless. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | Too late... They also have scribbles that look like Gruhn, Carter and some guy named Budny... |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2008 Posts: 1281
Location: Ohio | I think I am the only member that has signed BOTH books! |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2002 Posts: 806
Location: Seymour, Tennessee | Nope!
Nikon, I beat you to the punch on that.
I signed 'em both too.
Nyah Nyah Nyah :) |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Oddly enough, I don't think I have signed any of them. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413
| The one with the water damage got it when it was left outside moody's house. It's years since that one was seen.
Is it around now?
Or did some schmuck sell it on ebay when they realised how much the books go for? |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Originally posted by schroeder:
Or did some schmuck sell it on ebay when they realised how much the books go for? Who would buy anything a bunch of crazy people have scribbled all over???!?
I think I signed the one with water damage, but it was so long ago the only thing I'm sure about was that it was a book of some sort, right? |
|
|
|
Joined: January 2009 Posts: 379
Location: Alagoas, Brazil | Meuti's Book was here in Brazil, although I didn't see the pics I took (maybe someone took them for trinkets, which really should be the boat keyrings).
So, if you wanna send Ozzie for Summer in Brazil, I may take it boating again... |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | As I recall, Miguel, those photos would look good in any red-blooded, virulent male's workshop! |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | "boat keyrings"
And I was thinking they were Christmas Ornaments?
Culture and Seasonal misinterpretation on my part... |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | As promsed (long, long ago)!
Ozzy
Meuti
I should have an added surprise by the end of the week... |
|
|
|
Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Michael R. Winters:
I signed 'em both too. A bunch of us have signed them both. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | I would encourage all to sign whenever you get in arm's lenth of one... also location and date!
I think there's still two others out there. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Nice work, MWoody!
So, where are they headed now? |
|
|
|
Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3408
Location: GA USA | I'm liking that piece of a g8rbowl sticker on one of 'em. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | There were three of them in there... I might have to steal one!
Just like Geocaching... trinket in, trinket out, sign the log. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | MWoody, is my and/or Al's signature in any/all of the logs yet? |
|
|
|
Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Yes, and dutifully scanned and generously distributed. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I actually don't remember signing that's why I'm asking. And I need an excuse to go visit the Messina Deacon :) |
|
|
|
Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750
Location: Boise, Idaho | I had to look to see if I'd signed it. Looks like I might have signed the same one twice. |
|
|
|
Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Looks like I might have signed the same one twice. Heard that before from attorneys appearing at a show cause hearing for double client billings. |
|
|
|
Joined: August 2009 Posts: 1137
Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Mike, that was a wonderful idea! Love to see the pics again.
Thanks!!!
Bernie |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | The Book's are nearly ready to be sent out again. But now they'll go in their very own "Woody" cases, ala Western Red Cedar, Sitka Spruce and some other Leopard-like exotic wood (for Ozzy).
[img:center]http://api.ning.com/files/0kilP2zh5aN2gOuAq2Ddu12oV0ZGbBPNgDUVGQPLpPlnY-ZrUIzgFrBA1BxPdkofi5uT2WvhJQeXudLc7Lt4vM6k1MGmkEVr/Boxes001.JPG?width=737&height=552">
These will also fit into a Medium Flat Rate box.
|
|
|
|
Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | heck, years ago I transferred the book to Fred (Mtnbiker). Later he said I forgot to sign it so he signed it for me...might be interesting to see what he said. :crazy: |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | OK, need to stir things up.
So, where are The Books, these days?
Having great adventures, I expect!
Sing out, Dudes & Dudettes!!
(apologies to MWoody) |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349
Location: Denver, CO | I have one. Signed on the inside front cover (that might id it since I saw a pic of another that was signed on the outer cover?). This book has been around the world; US, several stops in Europe, some Polynesian islands... I was trying to get a group of us from the Denver area together for a pic but that never happenned. Love the box. Didn't realize that MWoody was the one who built it. |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Where (or, to whom) is it going next?
|
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | Here is a link to the photo album: http://ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=46
Edited by MWoody 2013-04-03 2:47 PM
|
|
|
|
Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349
Location: Denver, CO | MWoody - . I will label one of the books "Meuti" for his brilliant idea of putting the Book in a padded cover and for it's European flavor. . This is the one I have. |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349
Location: Denver, CO | arthurseery - 2013-04-03 12:39 PM Where (or, to whom) is it going next? I had offered it to NerdyDave but he never sent his info. I'd be happy to move it on to whomever wants it next. |
|
|
|
Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | I wouldn't mind giving it a read if there aren't any others interested. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | As Gil Favor says, "Heaaad'm Up, Mooov'm Out!" |
|
|
|
Joined: January 2013 Posts: 13
Location: New Zealand | I wouldn't mind having a look,if they are going to the four corners of the Earth so to speak(oh Yes I know I know the earth is roundish and not flat with corners,Its just an expression).Now where we're we,ah yes ,I'd love a look,I even think they'd love to come to God's zone (New Zealand)
|
|
|
|
Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | I signed too many of thge goddamn things |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349
Location: Denver, CO | Somebody send me a PM. But, trautsman, this one has already been to Texas. |
|
|
|
Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | PM Sent. |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349
Location: Denver, CO | So now that 2 people want it, what do I do? Where is the other one? |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | dwg preacher - 2013-04-04 2:23 PM
So now that 2 people want it, what do I do?
Pick One.
First PM... Closest to you for Fastest shipping...
If one is Female that would make the decision easier.
|
|
|
|
Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303
Location: Lake Forest, CA | seesquare - 2013-04-02 5:21 PM
OK, need to stir things up.
So, where are The Books, these days?
Having great adventures, I expect!
Sing out, Dudes & Dudettes!!
(apologies to MWoody)
I've got one. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Pot's right.
Send 'em on. |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349
Location: Denver, CO | Ok. I'll send mine on to the land of the Kiwi, and let Dan send his on to Mike. I'm going to wish for more time with the book before it goes, but too busy this weekend to break it out. |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349
Location: Denver, CO | trautsman - 2013-04-03 9:36 PM I wouldn't mind having a look,if they are going to the four corners of the Earth so to speak (oh Yes I know I know the earth is roundish and not flat with corners,Its just an expression ).Now where we're we,ah yes ,I'd love a look,I even think they'd love to come to God's zone (New Zealand ) I'm just going to drop this one in the little blue police box in my backyard. You should see it sometime last month. Or 2027... |
|
|
|
Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303
Location: Lake Forest, CA | Whomever wants the book I've got PM your snail-mail address to me and I'll send it on. |
|
|
|
Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | DanSavage - 2013-04-05 2:16 AM
Whomever wants the book I've got PM your snail-mail address to me and I'll send it on.
PM sent. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | To all,
As you see more content in these books take a photo and send it to me so I can post it in the album!
Better weather ahead (for the Northern Hemisphere) means more gatherings and opportunities! |
|
|
|
Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303
Location: Lake Forest, CA | Guitsome - 2013-04-05 4:19 AM
PM sent. PM replied.
I've added to the book in my possession the 4 mylar logos seen in the photo(s) below. I'm also including a CD-ROM containing the files that can be used to create them in both PDF and EPS formats.
For those wanting to download electronic copies of these files in vector format, they can be obtained from:
Adamas Logo (PDF, EPS) Ovation Logo (PDF, EPS)
For the fun of it, I stuck one of each of the logos in chrome to one of the inside pages.I should note that I am putting this artwork in the public domain with no rights reseved by me whatsoever. IOW, anyone can use them for whatever purpose they desire. If you want to use them commercially, I suggest you contact KMC directly to make sure you obtain permission/licensing from them as they are the copyright holder of both logos. Dan
Edited by DanSavage 2013-04-05 10:02 AM
|
|
|
|
Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | Thanks, Dan!
Cool logo decals. Nicely done. |
|
|
|
Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | Anyone else interested in reading The Book? If so, PM me your mailing address. |
|
|
|
Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | Is there anyone else on the board that hasn't had an opportunity to read The Book yet? If you're interested, PM me your mailing address. |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | PM send!
|
|
|
|
Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | Yep! You made it.
This is the signed copy. Though the signature is rubbin' off. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2011 Posts: 741
Location: Fort Worth, TX | Next time someone is ready to send 'em on, I'm interested in reading them.... or looking at the pictures. PM me for address to send. THANKS!!! |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | So where are "The Books" today?
Edited by MWoody 2014-05-02 7:53 AM
|
|
|
|
Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | The book projects were fun. The only problem was that we always reached that weak link in the chain. And that's too bad. The book that went through my hands had some really interesting things written in it by members that had it before me. I think the end game was to have them end up at the Mothership.
. the Mothership.... sigh. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Actually, I was hoping the copy I put in circulation 5 years ago, would meander back here, someday. Yeah, Brad, I too have sadness over the demise of The MotherShip. |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I'll bet that those "weak links" aren't even around here anymore. |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | MWoody - 2014-05-02 5:47 AM So where are "The Books" today? I have one of them. I haven't had a chance to take it out for a photo shoot. (I shoulda done that yesterday when it was 88° outside) I should finish reading it too. |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | AH HA!
The weak link surfaces!!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | I think what Mike is doing with pics in an album is excellent...even if you read it when you got a book, there are the other books, as well as comments after it left you. I have my own softbound so if I can see the pics of comments, I don't need to have a book sent to me. However, I handed off the book at one of Matt & Davis workshops without signing it...MtnBikerFred said later he signed it for me. Would like to know what he said. Thanks.
However, as there is no 'mothership' (except in our memories), where are the books going to end up? I find it interesting that there is a display of an Elite in the New Hartford airport (per a photo in at least one of the news articles of the closing). What will come of that guitar? If the display remains, maybe one of the books in the display with the guitar. If the display is to be removed, maybe one of the local OFC'ers could check if their is a local museum (not sure how close Patch is but he was often at the factory, closer than us on the West Coast). |
|
|
|
Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | As to the guitar at the airport, one of books, etc., has there been any thought about a fundraiser for the 'former' employees that have helped us in so many years (Ovation, Adamas, Hamer)?
An aside, cheap and easy to create a non-profit where donations could be tax deductible. Physical items (i.e., guitar, amp, etc.) could be listed on OFC with proceeds paid to the non-profit. Remember, a lot our posts end up on the internet which itself creates visibility.
I am pretty sure that I could find a guitar that would be appropriate. Maybe something from the 1718-X Garris prototype to an Adamas. Which guitar would be determined by how much Scotch I had in my system. |
|
|
|
Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4535
Location: Flahdaw | cwk2 - 2013-04-04 12:26 AM
I signed too many of thge goddamn things
C'mon...what's a hundred more? |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | There are two boxed sets running amuck somewhere. http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=46
Edited by MWoody 2014-05-03 8:12 AM
|
|
|
|
Joined: July 2005 Posts: 1609
Location: Colorado | never seen one... |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | The next person who would like to receive and enjoy this Traveling Book needs to send me a PM.
(this one has been to Oz and ME, SD and WA and a bunch of places since 2008)
First come, first served. |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | PM Received... This one is going East.
|
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | So where are the two "boxed" sets today? |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5327
Location: Cicero, NY | One has been in Cicero, NY for a month or so... |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Keep 'em movin'.
I'd (eventually) like to see the one I originated, for all the travels it's had, in the past 5 years.
It is still a means to remain connected, despite the vagaries of corporate intrigue, and loss, recently. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | Where are the two Boxed Sets today? |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I have one of them. The box needs a minor repair. I am also working on a special "addition" to the contents.
|
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Cool!
Has one of the volumes made it to Japan, yet? Needs more world travel! One of those travel gnomes included would be clever, don'cha think? |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | So where is the other one? |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | So... who has the boxed sets today? |
|
|
|
Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5327
Location: Cicero, NY | The one that I sent on is (I believe) the one that Miles is repairing (a corner of the box took a small hit somewhere before it came my way). No idea where the other one is. |
|
|
|
Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | I would suggest that at least one of the books go to JB and the rest of the crew at the factory...as soon as possible (or at reasonable). |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Weaser P - 2016-05-19 1:38 PM
The one that I sent on is (I believe) the one that Miles is repairing (a corner of the box took a small hit somewhere before it came my way). No idea where the other one is.
That is the one that passed through my home, as well as Brazil and Europe.
I am not sure if that one had been Down-Under or not.
|
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | That's the one I started. I don't believe it has been to Oz, yet. I like the idea of (eventually) sending it to The MotherShip. Thanks for the suggestion, Tony! |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | So... who has the boxed sets today? |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Send 'em BOTH, to The MotherShip. |
|
|
|
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4221
Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | None of them ever came my way. And I can hand deliver it to John once one does. How's that for a not-so-subtle hint.... |
|
|
|
Joined: September 2012 Posts: 809
Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | seesquare - 2016-05-22 2:00 AM
That's the one I started. I don't believe it has been to Oz, yet. I like the idea of (eventually) sending it to The MotherShip. Thanks for the suggestion, Tony!
Send it over here, then we can circulate it and send it back. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I have one. I wanted to bring it to NAMM (yeah I've had it for a bit) but I'll be doing that in a few months. The box needs some TLC which I just haven't had a chance to do, but it's on track. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | LOL, a public service reminder that Procrastinator's Anonymous will be having monthly meetings at a time and date to be determined later...
I like the idea of sending them (there are others out there) to Mother.
In fact, Miles... maybe Mother can fix one of the boxes!
Why I bring this up:
1 - I just picked up a good copy from Ebay for $20.00 and was reminiscing.
2 - These are so valuable in the sentimental sense I want to see them shared.
3 - My name is Mike and I am a procrastinating hoarder... and in this pile over here... oh, my car keys!
|
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | MWoody - 2016-10-18 6:17 AM
LOL, a public service reminder that Procrastinator's Anonymous will be having monthly meetings at a time and date to be determined later...
I like the idea of sending them (there are others out there ) to Mother.
In fact, Miles... maybe Mother can fix one of the boxes!
Why I bring this up:
1 - I just picked up a good copy from Ebay for $20.00 and was reminiscing.
2 - These are so valuable in the sentimental sense I want to see them shared.
3 - My name is Mike and I am a procrastinating hoarder... and in this pile over here... oh, my car keys!
Our motto... "We're Organized ! Everything has a pile, and everything is in its pile."
|
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | Curious as to the whereabouts of the Boxed Books!
Asking for a Friend... |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Yes, I would be very interested in where these items have been, or have been sequestered (in that case, not likely to be revealed!). So, please make inquiries, & try to track down these critters! I would suggest "Plan B", given The Mothership has departed, is to have Alpep & Mr. Ovation keep them, if they can be located. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I do indeed have one of them. If I can refer you to my post just a couple up from this one, that in October of 2016 we were considering sending it to the mothership for possible update repair of box etc.. and maybe some additions to the collection. Things have been sorta fluid since then, up to and including this latest NAMM 2019 show which I was "supposed" to attend. I was going to bring it with me to show off to the folks at DW. I would still like to do this, but at this point, I think I'd like to track down the 2nd book first so they are both in Alpep's or my hands. |
|
|
|
Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Perfectly acceptable. Best of luck, Miles. |
|
|
|
Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | The boxes were thrown together by a frustrated woodworker and are probably in need of another role of duct tape. |
|
|