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Location: Fort Worth, TX | I am curious about something. Since joining this forum I've learned Kaman instruments was sold to Fender and are now Asian made. Is Adamas guitars a separate entity still made in the US? How long ago did Fender buy out Ovation? Curious as to whether my 2006 40th anniv Balladeer (made in Hartford, CT) was under the Fender ownership? |
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Location: SoCal | I believe that it was early 2008 when the sale took place (still waiting to see something positive for Ovation to come from that). Adamii and custom orders are still made in CT. Your 40th Anniversary was built in CT....... |
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | The agreement was announced on Oct. 29, 2007 and liquor sales spiked that same day. Regardless, your K1111 reissue is pre-Fender so it's okay to love it. |
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Location: south east Michigan | It's okay to love some post-Fender Ovations.
Just wear protection.
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I'd still trust just about anything that came out of the New Hartford factory. |
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I'd still trust just about anything that came out of the New Hartford factory. +1 |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I just wish that the TX/AX units had removable necks, that's what turned me cold to Fender.
Three steps back.
If money were to start growing on trees again I'd like to try one of the Baritone O-Fenders... |
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Location: south east Michigan | I've been lured to that EliteT D-scale.
The one in the shop around here plays & sounds nice.
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That said, IF(and that's a BIG if) I wanted a TX or an AX, I would not buy sight un-seen. |
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Location: New Hartford CT | Word is Fender has big plans for Ovation:
https://picasaweb.google.com/105567705311232066629/FenderAndTaylor?a...
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Location: south east Michigan | ???? I don't get it. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Oh.. wait... sarcasim maybe?
As in mothballing the factory?
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Sometimes I'm slow and sometimes I'm thick... but usually not at the same time. |
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Location: New Hartford CT | Slip - Just razzing Fender~ |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | ^There^ was an example of the Sarchasm .
I have sympathies for everyone building and maintaining a business in the current world climate.
That won't stop any criticism, because that's how Steve Jobs built a better world.... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Upper Left USA | 
The... Cliff... House... |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I'd still trust just about anything that came out of the New Hartford factory. 'Cept maybe for those strat-headed acoustics... |
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Location: Jet City | My first acoustic was a Strat headed Fender Concord (Made in Korea). The sound wasn't the best, but it played decent. I passed it on to my son who managed to get it stolen at school. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | the deal wasn't finalized till Oct 31, 2007 |
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Location: south east Michigan | Originally posted by Waskel:'Cept maybe for those strat-headed acoustics... [/QB] Unless otherwise stated, I'm always talkin' about Ovations.
I don't really know very much of anything else. |
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Location: sitting at my computer | Originally posted by Beal:
the deal wasn't finalized till Oct 31, 2007 well, I guess that was the perfect day for scary things to happen... Halloween! |
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Location: Tennessee | Or the onset of the hallowed weenies. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | whoa....you guys are good at picking up on those subtle slams. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I'd say that this Fender thing hasn't been as bad as people worried about. A number of mid range guitars have wandered off to Asia (good that they're still being made, bad that things like replaceable necks are not included, bad that some quality seems to have been lost).
The Adamas range was my biggest worry - all going to custom, no non-custom manufacturing. However, a number of shops seem to sell brand new Adamai. So, you don't HAVE to wait 6 months to get one. Either the shops are putting in custom orders, or Ovation are just punching out some on spec without an order (or both?).
The new models look like they are a nice combination of new technology (preamps, contour bowls) with a return of some good old features (hand laid bowls). The wood top Adamas effectively signals the return of the high end Elites that people loved. There's one on Ebay for under $2,000 brand new!
I have two post-Fender Adamai and they are both great guitars, with absolutely no quality issues (as it should be). |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Most of us don't know squat about the current state of the company and its business model plan or plans. We have collective knowledge of their product offerings, both current and historic, but most everything else is speculation. I've often wondered if the company's strategists and business executives ever give any consideration to what is posted in this and other forums concerning their products. If they do, I wonder how much credibility we have. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I've often wondered if the company's strategists and business executives ever give any consideration to what is posted in this and other forums concerning their products. If they do, I wonder how much credibility we have. For some reason, I never seem to be around when they call. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I think you can assume our level of influence is nonexistent. We're huge fans of everything Ovation but have long wondered out loud, and sometimes very loudly, about their marketing strategies with no effect. I think we have credibility as far as guitarists and fans go but not in running their business. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by dark bar:
Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I've often wondered if the company's strategists and business executives ever give any consideration to what is posted in this and other forums concerning their products. If they do, I wonder how much credibility we have. For some reason, I never seem to be around when they call.  |
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Location: Texas | As far as the Ovation model line goes...would the general consensus be that their best guitars have already been made...acoustically speaking. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I wouldn't say that. Just that the new ones that sound that great are going to cost a little more. |
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