Website update
Paul Templeman
Posted 2012-01-14 6:34 PM (#344509)
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http://www.ovationguitars.com/new_for_2012
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FlySig
Posted 2012-01-14 7:28 PM (#344510 - in reply to #344509)
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Some good looking new products there. I think, though, that the Standard Balladeer probably harkens back to it's roots rather than harps back.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-01-14 7:39 PM (#344511 - in reply to #344509)
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Oh... They have a Korean '07C :eek:
I want one!


1778TX-4CS

I might even bend my preconceived prejudices over that one.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2012-01-14 7:41 PM (#344512 - in reply to #344509)
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Scalloped fingerboards on the Malmsteen Vipers? Way to go Fender, make an already niche product even less appealing to the mainstream. Idiots.
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-14 7:49 PM (#344513 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Oh... They have a Korean '07C :eek:
I want one!


1778TX-4CS

I might even bend my preconceived prejudices over that one.
Comes with that cool Korean "peel & stick" logo.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2012-01-14 7:54 PM (#344514 - in reply to #344509)
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The new logo is a joke. A classic case of fixing something that wasn't broken. The original logo is classic, iconic and instantly recognisable. The new one would appear to have been designed by a 5-year old with crayons, letraset and special needs. It would be a perfect way to identify the imports from the good stuff, but to put that poor excuse for graphic design on the stuff coming out of New Hartford is an insult. It's like replacing the original fender logo with the word "fender" in Helvetica.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-14 7:57 PM (#344515 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Oh... They have a Korean '07C :eek:
Huh?? The only thing thing like an 07BCS is the contour bowl. Everything else is different.
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Patch
Posted 2012-01-14 8:04 PM (#344516 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
The new logo is a joke. A classic case of fixing something that wasn't broken. The original logo is classic, iconic and instantly recognisable. The new one would appear to have been designed by a 5-year old with crayons, letraset and special needs. It would be a perfect way to identify the imports from the good stuff, but to put that poor excuse for graphic design on the stuff coming out of New Hartford is an insult. It's like replacing the original fender logo with the word "fender" in Helvetica.
Agreed! (And I don't always agree with Temp.)

I plan on contacting John about some projects right after NAMM, and I'll be sure to ask specifically for the OLD logo!
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Tony Calman
Posted 2012-01-14 8:26 PM (#344517 - in reply to #344509)
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Check out the product page...Adirondack Limited Edition and Elite show the OP-Pro but a bowl with a 2-knobber pre-amp. Maybe Temp is right, children running the asylum. Didn't anyone 'proof' this?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-01-14 8:35 PM (#344518 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally by stonebobbo:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Oh... They have a Korean '07C :eek:
Huh?? The only thing thing like an 07BCS is the contour bowl. Everything else is different.
Just kidding...
That has a mid-depth bowl anyway.
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Designzilla
Posted 2012-01-14 9:00 PM (#344519 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Scalloped fingerboards on the Malmsteen Vipers? Way to go Fender, make an already niche product even less appealing to the mainstream. Idiots.
That's obviously aimed straight at Yngwie fans. It's a bit out of the mainstream for a viper.

I'd like to check one out, but it really is a specialized extra that only appeals to a small group.

Kind of like the Nikki Sixx bass.

Or to summarize, I agree with Temp.
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Slipkid
Posted 2012-01-14 9:14 PM (#344520 - in reply to #344509)
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All this talk should be real interesting to the Ovation mucky-mucks when they read it.
Not quite the overwhelming praise they're used to getting around here.
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MWoody
Posted 2012-01-14 9:30 PM (#344521 - in reply to #344509)
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The Marketeers are at it again...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-14 9:39 PM (#344522 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
All this talk should be real interesting to the Ovation mucky-mucks when they read it.
There's no such thing anymore, is there.

Oh, wait. Let's try this: 所有的這些高談闊論應真正有趣的Ovation糞,mucks當他們閱 讀它。
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Tony Calman
Posted 2012-01-14 10:30 PM (#344523 - in reply to #344509)
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Let's hope someone speaks English at NAMM...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-01-14 11:01 PM (#344524 - in reply to #344509)
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The 1627 is a good guitar but over priced. The only interesting guitar is the Legend and that's because of the Adirondack spruce top. The rest, ugh......
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jay
Posted 2012-01-15 12:42 AM (#344525 - in reply to #344509)
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Moody, I am hoping to catch one of those 1627's used at some point in the future...Or wait for the fire sale of the ones that are unsold.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2012-01-15 1:19 AM (#344526 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Oh... They have a Korean '07C :eek:
I want one!
Hold out for the 2012 Gulag Balladeer signature model signed by Li'l Kim himself.
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bburg
Posted 2012-01-15 3:22 AM (#344527 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
The 1627 is a good guitar but over priced. The only interesting guitar is the Legend and that's because of the Adirondack spruce top. The rest, ugh......
...the only one I would go for....
but not for 3500€.

Bernie
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2012-01-15 12:38 PM (#344528 - in reply to #344509)
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Are any of these models coming from New Hartford? I'll reserve judgment on the new F-hole Viper until I have an opportunity to play one. From the front, the sunburst Balladeer looks very similar to my '84 Legend SSB. I could see the logo change coming.
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TJR
Posted 2012-01-15 1:27 PM (#344529 - in reply to #344509)
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Agreed, the Peghead logo should look like this..
http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitars/product/1627ltd_4

not like this...

http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitars/product/1627vl_4
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FlySig
Posted 2012-01-15 1:37 PM (#344530 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Oh... They have a Korean '07C :eek:
I want one!


1778TX-4CS

I might even bend my preconceived prejudices over that one.
It looks pretty much identical to my 6778LX Vintage Natural. The VN was a limited production run in 2005ish. The single side epaulet may change the tone some, idk, but I like the look and I love the soft V neck profile. The '07C was a better looking guitar due to the higher quality woods. I still miss the '07C but it was redundant with the Adamas 2080.

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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-15 2:25 PM (#344531 - in reply to #344509)
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Sometimes a logo change is needed, as in Ford. That damn logo looks like something on a Model-T, not a cutting edge motor vehicle. But the Ovation logo was elegant AND relevant AND timeless...unless they are planning on doing away with the bowl.
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bburg
Posted 2012-01-15 3:05 PM (#344532 - in reply to #344509)
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I think the ones made in New Hartford had the old logo:
http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitars/product/1627ltd_4
and
http://www.thomann.de/de/ovation_1627ltd_4.htm

the others, God knows where they where made, have the new (urgly) logo.
http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitars/product/1627ltd_4

Bernie
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bburg
Posted 2012-01-15 3:09 PM (#344533 - in reply to #344509)
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Wrong link posted. the last one should be this one:

http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitars/product/1627vl_4
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-01-15 3:25 PM (#344534 - in reply to #344509)
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Also... Was there a big demand to put the stacked knob on the Side again?


My jacket will often brush up against the volume knob on an OP-Pro...
I am sure the knob up on the bout under my arm would have similar problems.
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-15 4:00 PM (#344535 - in reply to #344509)
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Try going shirtless...
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Weaser P
Posted 2012-01-15 5:21 PM (#344536 - in reply to #344509)
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That's just cold, man...
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AdamasW597
Posted 2012-01-16 6:54 PM (#344537 - in reply to #344509)
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Fender has no business making acoustics of any kind. They proved that over the last 50 plus years. Their acoustics suck. Let's hope they don't mess up the American made Ovations. I truly believe the pre-Fender O's and A's will be worth a lot more than their descendants. Just like pre-CBS Fenders are worth a lot more than those produced after they took over.
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-01-16 7:22 PM (#344538 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by dark bar:
...the Ovation logo was elegant AND relevant AND timeless
+1
New one looks like an example of "design by committee". Had my share of designs turn hideous when subjected to clients like that. After awhile you just get tired of trying to save them from themselves.

...unless they are planning on doing away with the bowl.
careful, don't give 'em any ideas! :eek:
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-16 7:50 PM (#344539 - in reply to #344509)
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The new logo and typeface is very reminiscent of the logo/typeface used on the Ultra GP along with all of the ads done during the hard body days of the late 80's. Old is new again.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-01-16 9:04 PM (#344540 - in reply to #344509)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Also... Was there a big demand to put the stacked knob on the Side again?


My jacket will often brush up against the volume knob on an OP-Pro...
I am sure the knob up on the bout under my arm would have similar problems.
I had an 83 Country Artist cutaway (man was the wood on that beautiful) and it had the stacked knobs at the waist. Whenever I had that guitar on a strap, the knobs dug into my rib cage. If I had kept the guitar, I would have sent it to the factory for modern electronics.

The stacked knobs at the waist suck.....
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jay
Posted 2012-01-16 11:18 PM (#344541 - in reply to #344509)
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Something I have wondered is why Glen wasn't touring with one of the 1627ltds. LOL, maybe he isn't as nostalgic as I...The only "acoustic" he played when I saw him was the viper. It just seems that it would be a nice way to bookend his career.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-01-16 11:36 PM (#344542 - in reply to #344509)
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I suspect that it's easy for Glen to go back and forth from the G&L to the Viper to the Hamer 12 (if he's still playing that)....
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