How Much Guitar Credibility Do I have?
DaveKell
Posted 2012-01-15 12:51 PM (#344451)
Subject: How Much Guitar Credibility Do I have?


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I understand what I'd have today if I had never sold my Glen Campbell O 30 years ago, but I'm wondering what kind of status I have right now with my dead mint condition 40th anniv Balladeer? How respectful of an O is this guitar? I actually enjoy playing it (and do more often) than the 150th anniv Martin custom D28 I had for years. I'd just like to know how high I have a right to hold my head up? Petty, I know.
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FlySig
Posted 2012-01-15 1:32 PM (#344452 - in reply to #344451)
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That's a fine guitar! Nothing to apologize for there at all. I don't know anybody on this forum who would look down at any O or A owner. Heck, if all someone can afford (or wants) is a Celeb or Applause, we're all gonna cheer for them.

Go to an OFC get together sometime. You'll see a wide range of O and A products from the bottom to the top of the price range. Somebody will be oohing and aahing over your guitar while you're drooling over somebody else's.

I keep 3 acoustics out on stands in the music room, and rotate playing them even within the same session. An Adamas 2080, a 6778LX, and a 1976 vintage Patriot. They are all great guitars in their own way which inspire in different ways. Sometimes I break out my daughter's Applause AA13 for fun.

I think your cred depends on how much fun you're having playing it, and how much passion you have for guitars in general.
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-15 10:02 PM (#344453 - in reply to #344451)
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I kinda think that if you're looking for cred, it's nowhere to be found.
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Waskel
Posted 2012-01-15 11:58 PM (#344454 - in reply to #344451)
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Kinda like humility. As soon as you realize you have it, you've lost it.
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Nick B.
Posted 2012-01-16 9:42 AM (#344455 - in reply to #344451)
Subject: Re: How Much Guitar Credibility Do I have?



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Originally posted by DaveKell:
...I'm wondering what kind of status I have right now with my dead mint condition 40th anniv Balladeer?
That would make you a proud owner. :)

Originally posted by DaveKell:
How respectful of an O is this guitar?
In my opinion the K1111RI, along with the originals, are the best looking and perhaps best sounding guitars that Ovation ever built. The beauty of the K1111 lies in it's simplicity. Four decades of experience and technology give the K1111RI an edge when it comes to fit and finish. I attribute the sound to the X bracing and handlaid back. It has completely changed my thinking about wood tops (I had become an Adamas snob).


Originally posted by DaveKell:
I'd just like to know how high I have a right to hold my head up?
That depends on how far you're willing to let your head drop when someone criticizes it. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but some of us love them. I think the K1111RI will join the ranks of the FUD, UTE, OFC I, and a few others that have achieved a status of mythical proportion.

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the OFC owners or membership. Undoubtedly, a few will tell me to blow it out my a...
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DaveKell
Posted 2012-01-16 10:16 AM (#344456 - in reply to #344451)
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I am not concerned with the critics. They can pound sand. Like I said, I value this guitar over a D28 custom Martin. I like what y'all have said so far. Sounds like I made a good trade in getting this even for guitars I had $370 invested in and am solidly in the winner's circle. I'm going over to the best fingerstyle guitarist in Texas' place right now with it. He wants to use it for a recording someday. Google Stan Nowlin to hear his work. He's totally on a par with Chet Atkins and I intend to get a free lesson while I'm there.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-01-16 10:26 AM (#344457 - in reply to #344451)
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What Nick said. The K1111 RI turns out to be one of the best guitars Ovation ever built.....
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-01-16 10:33 AM (#344458 - in reply to #344451)
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Status? We're Ovation players... obviously we don't care what anyone else thinks about us or our guitars. ;)

( my opinion and $5 will get ya a cup of Starbucks. ) :p
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-16 12:30 PM (#344459 - in reply to #344451)
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Originally posted by DaveKell:
I'd just like to know how high I have a right to hold my head up? Petty, I know.
"Petty"??? Strange is a better word. There are many people on this forum with INCREDIBLE guitar collections who are not here looking for a status check. I don't think I've ever seen a post like this in my few years on the forum.
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DaveKell
Posted 2012-01-16 12:39 PM (#344460 - in reply to #344451)
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Well I am sorry if you took offense to my post. My current collection is this O and an Ibanez acoustic that can't cut it at all. I was simply interested in what knowledgeable people thought of this Balladeer. It's been 15 years since I've bought an acoustic and I was curious as to whether I made a good deal. There's a first time for everything and you've just seen your first of this nature on this forum - even if it baffled you. Sure, I was looking for confirmation. I don't know why you'd be surprised I would seek it in the premier place for O owners?
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-16 12:49 PM (#344461 - in reply to #344451)
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Didn't say I was offended...just said I thought it was strange. Credibility comes from what you can DO with a guitar, not from the guitar you own.
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MWoody
Posted 2012-01-16 2:01 PM (#344462 - in reply to #344451)
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"Credibility comes from what you can DO with a guitar, not from the guitar you own."

Oh crap, what am I going to do now? I'm still proud of my humility though...

My first O, a Balladeer specal from 1974 hangs on the wall with some fancier units but it still holds its own!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-16 2:04 PM (#344463 - in reply to #344451)
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In most places, if you walk in with an Ovation you automatically have zero credibility. Particularly with those people who spend the big bucks and/or buy their guitars for public acceptance and popularity. You know, the cork sniffers and open mic denizens who can't play for ((!)) but think because they have a $3K guitar, somehow their opinion doesn't stink.

If you walk into a situation like this with your Ovation, you damn well better be able to play it or it will be "I told you so". But usually it's not that big of a stretch because the bigots usually can't play, and the real players who may be there all probably had Ovations at some point and still have positive memories of them, even if they've moved on to something else that better them.

The K-1111RI is a stellar guitar ... or at least the one I have is. Or maybe, it could be I'm just a homer and it really is a piece of lap-slipping plastic crap. But to be honest, I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks. I like it.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-16 2:06 PM (#344464 - in reply to #344451)
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Sorry ... double post.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-16 2:07 PM (#344465 - in reply to #344451)
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Sorry ... triple post. I must be on Templeman's broadband connection!
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stephent28
Posted 2012-01-16 2:07 PM (#344466 - in reply to #344451)
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+1 with Bobbo's sentiments.
Well said
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DaveKell
Posted 2012-01-16 2:14 PM (#344467 - in reply to #344451)
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Just this morning I THOUGHT I could DO Will The Circle Be unbroken. I went up to Stan Nowlin's shop to show him my fingerstyle progress. My version came off fine with only a few minor hiccups. Then Stan showed me HIS version. I felt like I had just played Mary Had A Little Lamb on a recorder. My credibility based on what I can DO is still a ways up the road - but at least the effort is solidly holding my attention. For whatever years I have left my playing will never approach Stan Nowlin. He showed me a few things tho to work on that I'm excited about. I'm fortunate to have a friend who is entirely on a par with Chet Atkins to help me. He has every album Chet recorded and can play every song on them note for note. And he's just an old sign painter like me - at least I'm a better sign painter of the two of us! I'd still recommend anyone interested in fingerstyle Google Stan Nowlin. BTW... I have the second DVD of a two volume set by Stefan Grossman that has a few bad spots in it on the very last song. If anyone wants it (they replaced it for me with a new one), email me your address and it's yours free. I'll take all the emails and put 'em on a slip of paper I'll draw out for the winner. Email is: davidkellems@gmail.com. The DVD has a PDF file with the tabs.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-16 5:59 PM (#344468 - in reply to #344451)
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I'm with Bobbo, except for the derogatory comment about cork sniffers.
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-01-16 6:12 PM (#344469 - in reply to #344451)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I'm with Bobbo, except for the derogatory comment about cork sniffers.
at least he didn't call 'em...
cork soakers! :D
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