Roland cube amp
Paulcc1
Posted 2008-06-02 10:30 PM (#36585)
Subject: Roland cube amp


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Has anyone used a Roland cube or Mirco cube with an Ovation?
And what did you think.
Pauly
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Erniewan
Posted 2008-06-02 10:56 PM (#36586 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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Ovations sound fine through a micro cube.

You can't push the bass too far, because the speaker will start to fart, but with clever use of your EQ, it works well.

Use either the acoustic or JC120 settings.

It's a great way to get portable sound re-enforcement.

Ernie
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-06-02 11:07 PM (#36587 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp



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Got one! :cool:
Like a jerk, I bought it on eBay for $99...
I coulda got it new, with warranty for $125.
It is nice for practice (I don't play-out anyway), and has a bunch of effects that I never use.
But I do use the chorus, reverb, and a touch of gain.
Usually with the JC Clean setting (Jazz Chorus).
I am not impressed by the acoustic setting. But if you flip it over to "mic" you get extra volume without much change in the tone.
The micro-cube ain't that powerful, 2 amps, but it is really nice to double your sound.
I see people using them on the street, and it is good enough to get over the ambient street noise.

Here is a really good review, but not with an Ovation...

Yeah, "Sound Re-enforcement!" That is the concept I was looking for...
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-06-02 11:40 PM (#36588 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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Even I , am the proud owner of a Micro -Cube , purchased one Immediately when it became available and paid twice for what they cost now.. :rolleyes:
bought it for the Electric though , yet , as Arthur says , not bad for an A/E on the Mic.setting...unless yer into FX , thats when things get funny :)
The ( battery-driven ) Roland Cube-Street-Black would be a better option for Acoustics..can take a mic. too., costs more though..nice little machine.. :)

Vic
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Guitar Slinger
Posted 2008-06-03 12:08 AM (#36589 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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I've got 3 Roland Cube 30, Micto Cube and the VGA7 120 watts. I plugged the 6751LX and the 2071 Ultra into all three no issues. I didn't push the Micro because it's a practice amp. I lucked out with these amps the prices were a steal. Somewhere down the road I may look for a Jazz Chorus.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-06-03 9:19 PM (#36590 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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OK anyone familiar with Vox DA amps DA5 or 10
Pauly
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-06-03 10:33 PM (#36591 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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Paul cc1 ;

What are you looking for ?

If it is a small practice amp. for an Electric , than , by jove , I would strongly recommend a Fender Champion 600 , it`s a 5 watt valve amp./combo , 2 inputs , volume and that`s it !!

But...compared to others in the same class/price -range , it beats them all ,tried in the music store , with several guitars , against several amp/combo`s , and that one beats them all , I know it`s all subjective , so do n`t take my word for it , check it out

If it`s an Acoustic you seek , well , there`s a Cherished/Highly valued member on the board , who has Good things to say about the CUB AAD 100.

They `re mains operational only.

That VOX you are asking about ( Mains/Battery ) has some nifty features , so , why not try it out..allthough I was n`t thrilled about it`s sound. ( but that`s just my opinion ) allthough..

If those features appeal to you , than you may want to check -out the Fender G - DEC ( Mains only ) , No mic. input ( allthough using a mic. with pre -amp. you could use 2 of them by using the CD/MP3 input )) , and has , drum -loops , bass -lines , there are 3 models to choose from , I`ve got model 15 ( the one in the middle ) , it has build -in recording capability , over headphones it`s in stereo even , it`s a Backing band , a Nifty companion , the smallest model costs about as much as that VOX :)

Vic
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Yak
Posted 2008-06-03 10:36 PM (#36592 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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I have a Cube 30 and a Micro Cube. I prefer the sound of the Micro with the Ovation. The large 12" on the Cube 30 is too muddy or bloated sounding. The small 4" speaker has a bit more sparkle, but you dont have alot of range of volume but good enough to play to the family.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-06-04 7:27 AM (#36593 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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I am thinking of small settings the Idea of using this with my Adamas and me Tele. Also to go outdoors with it.
Pauly
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cliff
Posted 2008-06-04 8:50 AM (#36594 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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After seeing/hearing/picking-up & carrying Paul's AAD/PhilJones amp, I'm convinced there's no better "small" guitar amp . . .

This little thing is "lethal".

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stephent28
Posted 2008-06-04 11:18 AM (#36595 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp



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I have one of the Vox DA5 amps in green with a black faceplate instead of the chrome.

Great litle amp for the money. Very happy with it.
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birddog
Posted 2008-06-04 5:26 PM (#36596 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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I bought one of these a couple weeks ago and couldn't be happier.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Kustom-Sienna-35-35w-1x10-Ac...

This thing is sounds amazing with my Ovation.
I read a couple reviews on the smaller version & people gigged with it. I got it for 129.00 like new with the tags on it still. I wouldn't hesitate to replace it at MF price if it came up missing. Looks cool too. :cool:

Wally
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bcoombs
Posted 2008-06-04 6:12 PM (#36597 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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Has anybody tried out the Line 6 Micro Spider ? I'm interested to see if this is a good option for a practice/"sound reinforcer" and "take it with you" amp.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-06-04 8:11 PM (#36598 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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Paulcc1 ;

So , must have capability to run on Mains And Battery , I would still say :

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=939&p...

..........or.....

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=900&p...

Vic
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-06-05 8:31 PM (#36599 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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Thank you all for your help I ended up with a Vox DA5 played my Adamas through it today and this little amp has big sound. So next will be my Telecaster and see what she can do.
Pauly
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stephent28
Posted 2008-06-06 1:27 AM (#36600 - in reply to #36585)
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Pauly, besides the acoustic I also play my G&L ASAT through the Vox DA5 and it sounds really good.
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Laura Marie
Posted 2008-06-10 11:12 PM (#36601 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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After coming across this post, I have to mention my new Micro-Cube RX. It has double the power than the old Micro-Cube at 5 watts, but what makes this little amp a real kicker is the fact it has 4 specially designed 4 1/4" speakers.

Also new in this amp is the built-in drum machine. It has amazing sound with my tele, and I am looking forward to hearing it with my new Ovation with OP20 pre-amp when it arrives at the end the week.

LM
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NBDT
Posted 2008-06-11 1:02 AM (#36602 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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I'm using a Crate CA15 Cimarron Acoustic Amp. It has two channels with a CD/MP3 input, reverb, 3-band EQ and an 8-inch speaker. It's quite portable and I think it produces a nice tone.
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Laura Marie
Posted 2008-06-11 5:47 PM (#36603 - in reply to #36585)
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For those of you that have not seen the new Micro Cube RX.. a neat little amp!





I can plug my mp3 player into it, mix a rhythm with the built-in drum machine and then play over all that while recording out or playing live. So much more than a little practice amp... and so loud you could do a small coffee house gig with it.

LM
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Yak
Posted 2008-06-11 11:43 PM (#36604 - in reply to #36585)
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Not really a "micro" cube anymore... :-)
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Laura Marie
Posted 2008-06-12 12:18 AM (#36605 - in reply to #36585)
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But it still runs on 6 AA batteries. :)

LM
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-06-12 1:00 PM (#36606 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp



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Originally posted by cliff:
After seeing/hearing/picking-up & carrying Paul's AAD/PhilJones amp, I'm convinced there's no better "small" guitar amp . . .

This little thing is "lethal".

Totally agree. I've used this as a powered monitor twice a week since I bought it six months ago. The highest quality small amp you'll ever find, which could be problematic. Bought the last one from the only dealer within 1,000 miles and he is now out of business. There are less expensive small amps readily available, but probably none that offer what this one does in such a compact package.
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Laura Marie
Posted 2008-06-12 1:39 PM (#36607 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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How much are those amps and what is the RMS output?

LM
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-06-12 2:06 PM (#36608 - in reply to #36585)
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They are rated at 100watts RMS and they are loud. Those small speakers obviously don't shift as much air as a 12" or whatever, but you'd hardly notice. A big advantage is the digital switching power supply, so no bulky mains transformers. First time I picked up mine I honestly thought it was just an empty enclosure it weighed so little. The other advantage of the digital PSU is that it will tolerate any mains voltage from 110 to 240 without the need for an external transformer, so it can be used anywhere in the world. Only disadvantages for some people could be the lack of reverb, and the EQ is pretty basic. US list as around $600 I think.

BTW a friend of mine who plays Jazz guitar (ES175 through a Polytone Minibrute) had his amp develop a fault, so I lent him the Acoustc Cub while the Polytone was being repaired. When he got the Polytone back he immediately sold it and bought an AAD. Apparently the Minibrute is the amp for Jazz and I know he was after one for years. He said the AAD kicked it's ass and was less the a quarter of the weight. Pretty good for something designed as an "acoustic" amp.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-06-12 4:31 PM (#36609 - in reply to #36585)
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Going street rate for the AAD in the US is about $500 with the padded case.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-07-02 2:31 PM (#36610 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp



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Anybody ever use one of these? I think this is the same as the old "Mouse" (which I haven't seen in years).
I ask cuz I just bought one (online)... I got mine new on eBarf, for half this much!
No reverb or chorus, but I got way too many pedals...

Maybe I shoulda asked first, Huh? :rolleyes:
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an4340
Posted 2008-07-02 11:42 PM (#36611 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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I'm interested in that new line 6 amp mentioned above. I didn't really like the small roland, though that could be I was playing an electric thru it.
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Laura Marie
Posted 2008-07-04 9:05 PM (#36612 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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Originally posted by an4340:
I'm interested in that new line 6 amp mentioned above. I didn't really like the small roland, though that could be I was playing an electric thru it.
Are you talking about the original Micro Cube Roland or the new RX model? ... not to be compared.

LM
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ignimbyte
Posted 2008-07-06 11:53 PM (#36613 - in reply to #36585)
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This thread got me interested in acquiring one of them Roland cube amps. I plan to use it strictly for vocals/microphone, while the Ovation gets plugged into the UltraSound amp, which I also recently acquired. What do you think?
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an4340
Posted 2008-07-07 12:50 PM (#36614 - in reply to #36585)
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I'm talking about the original micro cube. Laurie, Have you tried the line 6 amp?
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2008-07-07 7:08 PM (#36615 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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I have the MicroCube, as well as the Cube 20X and Cube 30. Ovations sound very good through each of them. I usually use either the JC Clean or Acoustic models, with some chorus and reverb thrown in to sweeten the sound.

Line 6.....my experience is that acoustic guitars don't sound that good through their amps. They seem to slant their amp models towards electrics.

Roger
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-07-07 7:10 PM (#36616 - in reply to #36585)
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ROGER!!!!
Where
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You Been????
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Laura Marie
Posted 2008-07-08 9:57 AM (#36617 - in reply to #36585)
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Originally posted by an4340:
I'm talking about the original micro cube. Laurie, Have you tried the line 6 amp?
No I have not tried that amp, but know someone that has bought one and seems to be happy. I believe he is using it for his solid body and not acoustic.

My RX Cube sounds great with both my Tele and O guitars, I just use the "JC Clean" for my acoustic and the "Brit" or "Classic" for my solid body. I have even used it for my keyboard and it works really great for that too.

LM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-07-10 6:33 PM (#36618 - in reply to #36585)
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So I got my new Toy... (not a Roland)
I have only played with it a bit. This has no effects and does not sound too impressive with my psuedo-Strat...
BUT! I plugged-in my S771 (it was handy) and it produced a totally clean beautiful sound. So who needs effects?
Actually, I am now hunting-down a battery for my Chorus pedal, then try to figure-out how to use it.
Right now the Taxi is on the charger. It had juice when it came in the door, but it is always good to charge-up a new battery
(or so they tell me :rolleyes: ).


If somebody wants one... click here. If this one is gone, it looks like he has a bunch. The brand-new ones from MF, M123, GC, etc. Do not seem to come with the Microphone and the XLR cable.
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TimG
Posted 2008-07-11 11:07 AM (#36619 - in reply to #36585)
Subject: Re: Roland cube amp


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After learning about the AAD here at OFC last year, I bought one last fall. Overall, it has performed brilliantly.

There was one church/rehearsal at which I didn't care for its sound when I took its output into a bigger combo amp (but the church is notorious for acoustic problems). Since then, I've used it in three other smallish churches, and an outdoor picnic a month ago. It has consistently kicked ass. I haven't needed to take its output to house PAs. It's been loud enough on its own.

Last month, I played my Godin A8 mandolin into the AAD, at a church event. The only negative comment I afterwards received (from my wife--thanks, dear) was that it was a little too loud. Being so small/light, it's extremely versatile in where you can place it. This is very handy, when I'm visiting in a strange locale and I don't have a regular territory staked out.

I couldn't believe how well it worked outdoors at our company picnic last month! I was switching between my FolkloreLX and electric bass (depending on the song), in a small band with two other guitars and a mandolin. I didn't turn it up past the 10:00 position, and it was LOUD. I had expected its volume to be largely lost in the parking lot. But no. After a while, I noticed a musician friend at the picnic (who had told us he wouldn't be able to make it, so had skipped rehearsals). He's a terrific guitar player (much better and experienced than me on guitar), and excels in Blues solos, IMO. I had him called to the bandstand (actually, a corner of the tented pavillion), handed him my FolkloreLX, and I picked up my bass, and we rocked on "Before You Accuse Me" (Eric Clapton "Unplugged"). Wow! He played the heck out of guitar and blew the place away. The guitar and amp sounded phenomenal. Plenty of additional headroom available. I wholeheartedly endorse the Phil Jones AAD Cub.

Oh, I did have one unfortunate incident related to it. The zipper on the amp's carrying bag broke. I'm thinking I'll take it to a luggage repair store, and see if they can replace the zipper.

Insofar as my experience with Roland amps goes, I have a Roland MicroCube, which led me to later getting a Cube 60, and *drum roll* a Roland Cube Monitor CM-30. I recommend checking out the CM-30 as a versatile 30W amp. It's widely available in stores or the internet for $175 new.

I use the CM-30 a lot at home, primarily for acoustic reinforcement. It's like a tiny PA. Three primary instrument channels, all of which take standard 1/4" plugs. Channel one also has an XLR jack for microphone... or the XLR output of my custom Folklore-LX. And you can also plug an iPod or CD player into AUX IN 2 (1/8" jack) or AUX IN 1, which is a pair of stereo RCA jacks. So, Roland claims it has five channels. It can mount on a standard tripod mic stand (threaded hole in the base), although I suggest using a heavy-duty ultra-stable stand. It is a little heavy to be supported on top of a mic stand, but it works. You can also connect the the CM-30 to a second unit, to double the inputs and increase volume. It's small, pretty light, and rugged.

I didn't much try the MicroCube with acoustic instruments, but it can indeed be surprisingly good with electric guitars.

Another thing that pleased me with Roland was how well the Cube 60 amp sounds with my new-for-me (used) Ovation Viper CV-60 guitar. It can be a challenge for me to get a good (i.e., truly believable) acoustic tone from the CV-60, say with a clean amp like the AAD. So I was pleased to discover very good and pleasing tones from the combination of the Viper and the Cube 60. Sounds like an affected acoustic tone (an acoustic with "flavorings," such as reverb, chorus, etc.), which is nice.
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