Mineral Oil in the UK?
dweezil
Posted 2008-06-07 3:52 AM (#35919)
Subject: Mineral Oil in the UK?


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Whilst the merits of mineral oil has been discussed at length in various posts this thread is not about that. It's about where to buy it (and what is it branded as) in the good old United Kingdom.

So UK residents probably only, any suggestions on where to buy it and what it's actually branded as?

Many thanks.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-07 4:05 AM (#35920 - in reply to #35919)
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Dweezil, see if you can find Gerlitz Guitar Honey. It's mineral oil with some other stuff in it (i believe a bit of beezwax).

That's the stuff you want. Here it costs about $5 US for a little bottle that will last you 5-10 years.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-06-07 4:17 AM (#35921 - in reply to #35919)
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Thanks. Interesting, from Gerlitz's FAQ...

"Without giving away our formula, I can tell you that 'Guitar Honey' is a mineral oil based formula, which is blended with a very high grade of mineral spirits (for cleansing) along with other proprietary ingredients which give a smooth (not greasy) feel & finish to an instrument's fingerboard. It contains NO silicones or other ingredients which would be harmful to an instrument's fingerboard, frets, binding, finish, inlays or structural adhesives, when used as instructed. "

So it's not 100% pure mineral oil, I wonder...
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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-07 5:20 AM (#35922 - in reply to #35919)
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Like I said, I think there's beeswax in it.

That's a good thing. Protects. Google it if you like. Same thing is used for expensive cutting boards.

I've been using it for a Loooooooooong time. Good stuff. I wouldn't lie to ya man! ;)
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-07 9:03 AM (#35923 - in reply to #35919)
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Sorry, I'm not in the UK (but I've lived there) and I've never been able to decipher what mineral oil is either.

Until tonight. With the magic of Google, I now know.

From http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-mineral-oil.htm

"While not everyone is aware, baby oil is simply mineral oil that has been enhanced with a small amount of fragrance."

I always thought that mineral oil was paraffin oil and that paraffin oil was kerosene. :confused:
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cliff
Posted 2008-06-07 9:34 AM (#35924 - in reply to #35919)
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dweezil
Posted 2008-06-07 9:57 AM (#35925 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by muzzlitebeer:
Sorry, I'm not in the UK (but I've lived there) and I've never been able to decipher what mineral oil is either.

Until tonight. With the magic of Google, I now know.

From http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-mineral-oil.htm

"While not everyone is aware, baby oil is simply mineral oil that has been enhanced with a small amount of fragrance."

I always thought that mineral oil was paraffin oil and that paraffin oil was kerosene. :confused:
see it's not just me that has a problem working out what this mythical stuff is. Now I'm not going to use baby oil on my Ovations thats for sure SWMBO will think I've finally lost it!

So the search continues...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-06-07 12:19 PM (#35926 - in reply to #35919)
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Anyone else dumb enough to admit he was dumb enough to click on Cliff's link?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-07 12:25 PM (#35927 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Anyone else dumb enough to admit he was dumb enough to click on Cliff's link?
Guilty and unforgiving...
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noah
Posted 2008-06-07 4:18 PM (#35928 - in reply to #35919)
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Available at any drug store :cool:

100% fretboard Mineral Oil in an applicator bottle

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dweezil
Posted 2008-06-07 4:21 PM (#35929 - in reply to #35919)
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Available in the UK? If so where dude, this thread is a puplic service for us UK Ovation nuts.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-07 5:50 PM (#35930 - in reply to #35919)
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Go to your local 'super mart', drug store or apothecary and look in the 'laxative' section. Or, ya might just ask the 'help'. Just don't refer to it as a guitar medication...
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dweezil
Posted 2008-06-07 6:04 PM (#35931 - in reply to #35919)
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The point of this thread is that a lot of the advice on ORF is directed towards US people.

I'm in the IK.

We do not have 'Marts'.
We do not have 'Super Marts'.
We do not have 'drug stores'...

...and even if we did we wouldn't have laxative sections. You guys are nuts!!!

So back to the original question, "So UK residents probably only, any suggestions on where to buy it and what it's actually branded as?"

NO NOT BABY OIL!

JUST PURE 100% MINARAL OIL!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-07 7:03 PM (#35932 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by dweezil:
The point of this thread is that a lot of the advice on ORF is directed towards US people.
BS, we're trying to answer your non-ending questions in a way that you can help yourself.

I'm in the IK.
Enjoying the malt and hops?

We do not have 'Marts'.
We do not have 'Super Marts'.
We do not have 'drug stores'...
BS again! Been there, saw some of 'em... over twenty years ago! In fact, drop into the 'so called' oldest apothecary just off of Trafalgar Square the next time you're in London. They might even have a web site by now...

...and even if we did we wouldn't have laxative sections. You guys are nuts!!!
Now, this may explain the attitude. Man, you need some! If ya want, I'll send ya two bottles on my dime, err, ummm, pound; one for your fretboards and the other for you. Seriously, my dime...

So back to the original question, "So UK residents PROBABLY only, any suggestions on where to buy it and what it's actually branded as?"
Ya left the door open with the "probably".

NO NOT BABY OIL!
Bad memories?

JUST PURE 100% MINARAL OIL!
Good luck in your quest... My offer still stands.

Geez...
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cliff
Posted 2008-06-07 7:06 PM (#35933 - in reply to #35919)
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Go to a Pharmacist("Chemist" in your case) . . .
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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-07 7:24 PM (#35934 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by dweezil:
The point of this thread is that a lot of the advice on ORF is directed towards US people.

Funny, I thought the point of this thread was to help you find some mineral oil to use on your fretboards.

It should be noted that you're on a US website, run by US people, that's about a US guitar manufacturer, that's sold most of it's products to US citizens.

So what are you wanting? Would you like us to make this site all about people from the UK?

As much as I like MOST the non-US people in this group, you're now starting to annoy me. I've done my best to help you, as have many others.

If you're not happy with the level of service you're receiving, then buzz off. Rub some friggin crumpets on your fretboard for all I care now.

Too bad there's not an ignore button.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-06-07 7:58 PM (#35935 - in reply to #35919)
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dvd
Posted 2008-06-07 8:11 PM (#35936 - in reply to #35919)
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dvd
Posted 2008-06-07 8:27 PM (#35937 - in reply to #35919)
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live near an Ikea ?
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dweezil
Posted 2008-06-07 8:28 PM (#35938 - in reply to #35919)
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It should be noted that you're on a US website, run by US people, that's about a US guitar manufacturer, that's sold most of it's products to US citizens.

So what are you wanting? Would you like us to make this site all about people from the UK?

As much as I like MOST the non-US people in this group, you're now starting to annoy me. I've done my best to help you, as have many others.

If you're not happy with the level of service you're receiving, then buzz off. Rub some friggin crumpets on your fretboard for all I care now.

Too bad there's not an ignore button.
Woah! Easy there buddy!

1. I wasn't aware that this was a US exclusive club/site/manufactuer/guitar/etc. Are you really saying Ovations are for US citizens only, everyone else f*** off!??!?!! If the admin tells me this a US site only then please let me know - I'll be gone!

2. No, I do not want to make this site for UK people only, this thread is simply intended for me (and other UK citiznes) to try and find out a product that I (we) could go and buy, by name, that might help me (us) take care of our (their) Ovation. Yes even though it's a US product we, in the UK are allowed to buy it here (let's not get political, really let's not).

3. If my questions annoy you, simply ignore them! Simple. Do you realy have to respond?

4. What crumpets? Do you have a brand in mind? It ought to be pointed out that crumpets are no longer available in the UK since the European Union legislation had it's way.

Jeez man chill! Is it me or are you unreasonably aggressive?

-- Many thanks everyone else for being kind enough to post some links to help, it's really appreciated.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-07 8:40 PM (#35939 - in reply to #35919)
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Caravan Rooubishe
Posted 2008-06-07 8:42 PM (#35940 - in reply to #35919)
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1. go to your local chemist
2. ask where might I find the baby laxative
3. examine the various selections
4. choose the clear one that looks like water and is labeled 100% pure mineral oil
5. buy it and buy an extra dose for yourself

how fucking hard is that
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-06-07 8:58 PM (#35941 - in reply to #35919)
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-07 9:05 PM (#35942 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by cliff:
www.MineralOilFanClub.com
What? No MineralOilGallery.com yet?
Originally posted by dweezil:
I'm in the IK.
Is that near England?
Originally posted by dweezil:
We do not have 'Marts'.
We do not have 'Super Marts'.
We do not have 'drug stores'...
Umm... :rolleyes: Boots, Superdrug? No?
Originally posted by dweezil:
...and even if we did we wouldn't have laxative sections.
I'm sure they do. Shame. Seems like exactly what you need right now.
Originally posted by dweezil:
You guys are nuts!!!
And you're lazy and abusive.
Originally posted by dweezil:
NO NOT BABY OIL!
If you've got a problem with Baby Oil, then you DEFINITELY don't want to to with Noah's offering.

If you want to find out what something is called in your own country, you should try your own country first. eg, you wouldn't ask in an Australian forum what Vegemite was called in the UK (or even IK) Most Aussies wouldn't have a clue. (or even care.)

Now, if you hadn't got your nappy all twisted up, and you were still too lazy to go to your local guitar shop or large chain store Chemist, you could have gotten one of our "nutty" US based brethren to send you some. There are dozens here that would have offered. (Actually, I think one did!)

I think you may have just sunk that ship though. :(
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-06-07 9:10 PM (#35943 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by Caravan Rooubishe:
1. go to your local chemist
2. ask where might I find the baby laxative
3. examine the various selections
4. choose the clear one that looks like water and is labeled 100% pure mineral oil
5. buy it and buy an extra dose for yourself

how fucking hard is that
Welcome Back Dave!!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-07 9:18 PM (#35944 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by dweezil:
1. I wasn't aware that this was a US exclusive club/site/manufactuer/guitar/etc. Are you really saying Ovations are for US citizens only, everyone else f*** off!??!?!! If the admin tells me this a US site only then please let me know - I'll be gone!
He never said it was just for the US. Did the malt & hops diminish your reading comprehension?

2. No, I do not want to make this site for UK people only, this thread is simply intended for me to (and other UK citiznes) to try and find out a product that I could go and buy, by name, that might help them take care of their Ovation. Yes even though it's a US product we, in the UK are allowed to buy it here!
You can buy Ovations but not crumpets?

3. If my questions annoy you, simply ignore them! Simple. Do you realy have to respond?
At first it wasn't your questions, but your attitude and ingratitude plus your inability/unwillingness to use Google. Now you're just being a pain in the collective arse/bum/rump (Google is my friend).

4. What crumpets? Do you have a brand in mind? It ought to be pointed out that crumpets are no longer available in the UK since the European Union legislation had it's way.
BS for the third time. In your case Google is NOT your friend!

Jeez man chill! Is it me or are you unreasonably aggressive?
Whoa!!! You're the one that called potential competitive bidders "swine", AFTER you posted the eBarf link! Then basically said no biggie after being called to task and given some very beneficial advice.

-- Many thanks everyone else for being kind enough to post some links to help, it's really appreciated.
Too bad you didn't utilize 'em...

BTW, my mineral oil shipment offer is still on the table. PM me if you're capable of appreciating the American spirit.
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an4340
Posted 2008-06-08 12:21 AM (#35945 - in reply to #35919)
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Mineral oil is ubiquitous. The stuff is used for massages, at least that's what they use in chinatown, it's also used for your wife's chopping blocks and .... as a laxative.

Your local drug store will have it in the laxative section. It's the stuff for human consumption. Any brand will do.

It really isn't a mystery product. Except at the mineral oil fan club ... thanks to Cliff's link I'm now a member.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-06-08 3:37 AM (#35946 - in reply to #35919)
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It would seem I have pissed off some people, sorry, that was not my intention.

I thought a bit a cheeky banter was the form here, clearly not.
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BruDeV
Posted 2008-06-08 3:55 AM (#35947 - in reply to #35919)
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The mineral-oil/bee's-wax combination is sometimes called bee oil or bee's oil.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-06-08 5:51 AM (#35948 - in reply to #35919)
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Don't take it to heart Dweez
Some don't get our "Colonial" humour
AJ :D
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-06-08 6:45 AM (#35949 - in reply to #35919)
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Anyone else dumb enough to admit he was dumb enough to click on Cliff's link?
I did, Amazing actually!

While were on this where can I find Crumpets in the States? I want to try them on my fret board.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-08 11:48 AM (#35950 - in reply to #35919)
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-08 3:10 PM (#35951 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by AussieJames:
Some don't get our "Colonial" humour
AJ :D
AJ,

I thought in your case it was 'penal exile' humor (Aussie sic)! :D



BTW, dweez will be receiving some Yank MO in the near future... ;)
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dweezil
Posted 2008-06-08 3:44 PM (#35952 - in reply to #35919)
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Hey 2ifbyC, we got there in the end! ;-)

Seriously thought MNAY thanks for the help, I'm happy to pay, of course I'm starting to wonder whether you have added some O eating additive to the MO to teach me a lesson! Damn there I go again with my perhaps misjudged sense of humour / humor?

Now are we all "kissed and made up"? I hope so! Yeah I might have been a little arsey and for that once again please accept my apologies, I didn't mean to offend. I still think you lot a nuts though ;-)
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cholloway
Posted 2008-06-08 4:12 PM (#35953 - in reply to #35919)
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I swear by mineral oil!
I've even freed up a stuck oil ring in one of my garden tractors with a healthy dose in the gas tank in the form of Marvel Mystery Oil. Great stuff!!!
I wouldn't recommend that brand for an "O" though...
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Captain Black
Posted 2008-06-08 4:19 PM (#35954 - in reply to #35919)
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Hello - Some of you may know I'm from God's Own County, Yorkshire in the UK ! Whopeeeeeee!
What's the problem with slightly fragranced baby oil if that's what mineral oil is ?
If you went into the Pharmacy where my wife works (although they don't sell it) you would be recommended baby oil. Johnson's Baby Oil contains: Parafin Liquidum, Isopropyl Palmitate (this is of a detergent composition and actualy has a US Patent ! My wife is aware it is used by Denists) and Parfum. (Perfume)
Sounds like the real deal to me.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-08 4:22 PM (#35955 - in reply to #35919)
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Originally posted by dweezil:
I'm happy to pay
Oh, you'll pay alright...



of course I'm starting to wonder whether you have added some O eating additive to the MO to teach me a lesson!
Moi?!?!?

Damn there I go again with my perhaps misjudged sense of humour / humor
Noper, even this 'Colonialist' appreciates that one.

I still think you lot a nuts though ;-)
That's true, I never debated that. Although our 'tree rats', aka squirrels, suffer the opposite condition...

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Damon67
Posted 2008-06-08 4:49 PM (#35956 - in reply to #35919)
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The only thing better than mineral oil for a fretboard is a tablespoon of beeswax melted in to about a cup full of mineral oil.

Fretboards deteriorate mainly from the oils and acids from out fingers. I'm sure everyone's seen the wear marks around the "D chord" fingerings before. Most people assume the person playing it had long fingernails, or just got a bit overzealous playing Neil Young songs, but really it's all about the acids and oils. Everyone's acidy levels are different, and some people can be more toxic on a fretboard than others.

Mineral Oil does a great job of conditioning and treating the fretboard. I love treating an old unloved fretboard and watching it just suck up the oil. The results can be dramatic.

However if you want to protect the fretboard against those nasty fingers of yours, the optimum concoction is what I've just described above. The beeswax will give it a harder surface that's more resilient.

It's a pain in the ass to go buy 100% mineral oil, then find the beeswax, then melt the beeswax, only to use less than an ounce on a fretboard. You should discard the mixture after using it. Now it becomes rather costly doing it.

THE SOLUTION IS, the very first thing I posted. Use the $5 Guitar Honey (that will last a loooong time), or look for bees-oil as stated above. Or you could just condition it with 100% mineral oil and not worry about protecting it. Your choice.

FYI, it's the acids, oils, and liquids that will kill an expensive cutting board (butcher block). This mixture is the best to use for them as well.
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