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Location: closely held secret | Our family is going to Uganda again next January (another missions trip), and I'm looking for a used O to take with. Perhaps a Balladeer, if it has a p/u.
I need to keep the cost at around $250 or $300.
If anyone has one they're looking to move, please let me know.
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Glenn Hess had one a while back. Don't remember the price. I don't think it had a pick-up but it looked like it was in great shape.Balladeers show up fairly often.I'll keep a look out for you. |
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Location: closely held secret | Thanks, Steve. I kinda need a pickup, because we'll be traveling to different churches and working with their worship musicians. They play loud.
Last time we went I bought an inexpensive Celeb on sale, but I left it with someone there. (You wouldn't believe how rare Ovations are in central Africa!)
This time I want to take a better quality guitar, but I plan to bring it back with me. Unless God has other plans for it, that is... |
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| I have an 85 1112-4 (no pickup) for sale, Howie has an Ultra w/pickup in good condition think you could get it for 225 maybe less,
1112-4 $350
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Location: closely held secret | Thanks, Glenn, but I really should have a pickup. It is a beauty, tho!
I'll keep the Ultra in mind - my first O was an Ultra! |
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Location: closely held secret | Any opinions on the Pinnacle Deluxe ? (Yes I know it's Korean! But I'm taking it to Africa!)
OP30, no case (I have several...)
... Or the S771 Balladeer. |
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Location: SoCal | Personally, I'd spend the extra $130 and get the Balladeer. Even with the damage, it will sound better unplugged. |
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Location: closely held secret | Good point, Paul. Plus it has a case and no bids.
Thanks for the input. Did you get that package I sent you? |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Glen,
Nice job of getting that guitar and case to hang upside down from the ladder :rolleyes: |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Waskel,
It might be cheeper in the long run to find out what God's plan is for the guitar ahead of time! |
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Location: closely held secret | I agree, Bill. Unfortunately, that's sometimes not revealed to us.
My plan last time we went (last year) was to buy a Celeb (extorted it out of GC for cost) and leave it with a missionary from our church who was living there. This is what I did and felt very right about it.
This time I plan to bring it back with me to use both for future trips and just as a campfire guitar - unless God shows me an alternative plan... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Waskel,
The 1778T is fairly bullet-proof.
and loud! |
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Location: closely held secret | I know, Mike. They're also $700-$800.
I can't afford to spend that much on a guitar that's going to be stuffed in a British Air cargo hold for 24 hours and may or may not show up in Entebbe.
That's why I'm looking for an older Balladeer - lower cost, decent quality. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I have just what you're looking for, but I just got it and I'm not willing to part with it. I only paid $225 for it, but got burned for $70 in shipping because I had my father-in-law handle the transaction. I've well documented my fights with my wife over guitars. I enlisted the aid of her dad, but she really complained when we got the $70 bill for shipping it. I should have thought about selling it to you when Stephen's 1537 was for sale. I could have come up with $500 and she wouldn't even noticed the difference between a Deluxe Balladeer and the 1537.
I'm not sure you'd want the shallow bowl, though. Mine really projects, but the strings seem very heavy and it takes a lot more work with the left hand, especially on barre chords. I'm assuming that when I go to lighter strings it will lose a lot of volume unplugged. If you don't find anything, let me know. I'm sure my wife won't mind if I let you borrow it. Check the pics on dcrunner's site, or it might still be in Paul Blanchard's. Nebraska to Iowa to Idaho. |
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Location: closely held secret | well, :p I'm glad you're not bitter about the $70. :rolleyes:
I have 2 shallow bowls, 1866 and 67. Not as room-filling as my 6778LX, but still fun to play, and great plugged in.
Besides, I'm taking it to Uganda. I love the people there, but they're easy to impress, guitar-wise. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm not bitter. I just whine a lot and it's hard to tell the difference in print. Sounds like you have a couple choices already. I'll keep my Balladeer then. I did have a mid bowl Celebrity Deluxe that looked and sounded very good. Had a big finish crack, so I traded it for my Collector's. The Balladeer is my first solid spruce. That may also explain the seemingly big sound, but I still think it's the strings. I don't need the volume and my fingers are getting sore, so I'll get a set of lights next time I'm in the guitar store and see. |
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Location: closely held secret | No, no choices yet, really. Thanks for the offer though, Mark. I'm glad you're enjoying your Balladeer, sounds like you need to spend more time together. :D
I'll keep it in mind, though. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | By choices, I was referring to your Legend. If my memory is correct, it is similar to my Balladeer except for the 5 piece neck. If you don't want to take that, I'm sure you will be able to find a Balladeer in the price range. I got mine off this board when I wasn't really looking and I was surprised no one else expressed interest or I would have let them have it and avoided the hassle with my wife. (I bought the Classic and Balladeer on the same day, so she was a bit shocked.)
There's an ebay O where the guy wants $75 for shipping and handling and explains why. For $70, mine was packed so well that it could have been run over with a truck without damage. The biggest problem was that it took me almost an hour to unpack so I could start playing it. Keep looking. |
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Location: closely held secret | I'm trying to avoid taking the Legend.
First, it's a long trip on several planes (picturing apes on steroids chucking luggage in and out of loading doors).
Second, there's nothing like getting off an air-conditioned jet in Entebbe and walking into a wall of equatorial humidity. I could almost hear the Celeb I took last time swelling inside the case.
That was after I got over the sheer amazement of it actually showing up at the airport at all. "Ooo look an American guitar! And it's an Ovation!" "Ah, forget it - it's a Korean Celebrity. Let it go - maybe next time he'll bring an expensive one..."
I think I'd rather take something I won't have to cry about. Maybe an MOB? That would give the nationals something to talk about! Anyone willing to donate one? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | That's what I figured. I'd feel the same about my Balladeer, although I only paid $225 for it and it has a couple small finish cracks. I assumed the laminated tops would be more resistant to finish cracks, but my Celebrity Deluxe had one the length of the body. There are quite a few decent O's on ebay that go for low prices because of finish cracks. Maybe that's where you'll end up. |
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Location: closely held secret | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Just a knock-around guitar, doesn't have to be beautiful. Just missed that s771 on the bay, but didn't want to go $300 for it. He's going to relist it, maybe he'll start a little lower. He didn't get any bids on it. |
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Location: closely held secret | Can someone please identify this 12-string slothead?
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Location: NJ | Pacemaker. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I second that.
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Location: closely held secret | Check it out at ebay .
Is it worth $150? I can't tell how deep the cracks go... |
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| "I love the people there, but they're easy to impress, guitar-wise. "
Try and book me a tour while you're there. They sound like my kind of audience. |
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Location: closely held secret | I'm surprised you haven't been there. I understand Uganda is a popular travel destination for Brits.
It really is beautiful. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by MWoody:
I second that.
1615-1 I'm thinking 1115. From the description, the pickup in it was added, and I don't see any knob above the neck.
Hmmm. Electronic upgrade potential?
Never mind, just re-read the description. The cracks are through the wood. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Ok, I was 80% correct.
A 1615 is a good candidate to take with you Waskel! Outstanding sound. It would definately be covered in finish cracks so try to pick one up in the $250 range and have Mother refinish the top upon your return. |
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| I never feel particularly drawn to places with snakes and no breweries. Call me old fashioned.
Surely the guitar you want is a resonator - the all steel variety. Think Mark Knopfler "Romeo and Juliet." They double up as weapons when the lions get hungry..... |
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Location: closely held secret | Sounds like these cracks go a little deeper than the finish, though... |
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Location: NJ | ". . Think Mark Knopfler "Romeo and Juliet." . . ."
Speaking of which:
I just saw Mr. K. perform for the first time last week. F@cking BRILLIANT!! The notes just seem to effortlessly DRIP from the guy! His voice got a bit lost in the wash of drums and dual keyboardists on some of the louder numbers (he never had an overtly "dynamic" voice to begin with), but when they pared-down to just a small trap kit and some acoustics, it was GREAT!! The National featured prominantly in the "acoustic" stuff . . . especially "R&J" . . . |
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| Like all great guitar players he plays with his fingers, not a pick..........
Vocally he reminds me of Dylan - neither of 'em can sing worth a sh**, but they write perfect songs for their own voices and the results are brilliant.
Glad you enjoyed it. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Waskel,
If you want a Pacemaker with finish cracks, there's one in a pawn shop in Lewiston Idaho. I think it was around $100. I could probably track it down for you if you are interested. I saw it in the window and rushed in, but put it back down when I saw about 4 finish cracks from the bridge to the base. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Last I heard, Mother can pull the neck and bridge, sand down the top on a big-honkin sanding wheel, spray a new clear coat and reassemble at around $350.
Use it and give it a resurrection when you return.
This would give you a fantastic new guitar that shouldn't crack, will have a reset neck and has a history about it.
I would also suggest you use the Elixers. |
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Location: closely held secret | Thanks anyway, Mark. And thanks for the info, Mike.
I'm not particularly looking for a Pacemaker, a 6 string would probably be easier to deal with in the conditions there. I just thought it might be a good deal for the money, but the top cracks scared me off.
Keep up the suggestions, everything help. I'll keep looking. :eek: |
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| hey waskel how's $200 for the ultra.... deal?
nice Ovation, pickup, deep bowl, sturdy, looks good, sounds nice, and should be right up your alley for your trip. pics if you want,
God Bless,
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Location: closely held secret | Glenn, pics would be great. Thanks! |
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| here you go, got pics of neck, back, bridge and front as well, wife and I are getting ready to drive up for the discovery launch so will have more up when back, 
God Bless,
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Location: closely held secret | Sounds good, Glenn, I'll wait for the other pics. Here's praying for a safe and successful launch! |
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Location: closely held secret | Negatory on that. Launch has been scrubbed. Repeat, launch has been scrubbed.
Hope it wasn't too far of a drive. |
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| we were actually pulling up on our watch spot on the Indian River when we heard it(scrubbed) on the radio. only a 28 mile drive up one rd(US 1)which is right in front of my house.. so no biggie. stopped and had a Margarita and some grilled shrimp on the way back.
had Brett go over the Ultra today gave it a fresh set-up, battery and new elixir's brought it back home and currently strapped in and being played,
Shannon and my son Glenn went over to a big show in Orlando today @ Tinker field(30+ bands) don't expect them home till late and Shannon made it out w my camera so will have to upload the others to you tomorrow.
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| hey waskel got the other pics... this thing is a tank... '81(edit)...82 ser#279522 1511 ultra made in USA...that's what it says...(only one year?)
sounds a lot like the classic balladeer.
want me to edit em down and post here or send em to you in e-mail
heavy acrylic finish and guitar is in great condition... only one finish crack upper bout.
preamp/pickup works great.
fresh set-up and elixirs.
God Bless,
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| here's front, back, bridge, and finish crack..
others in my gallery. 
nice very sturdy guitar.
CWK2 is this one of your beloved "panelmeisters"?
could probably stop a bullet or fend off a Lion or some rebels with this thing as well.
God Bless,
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Hey Waskel,
If you haven't already struck up a deal with Glenn and your still looking this is on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7337063837&categ...
of course Glenns Ultra looks like a better deal for you. All depends on what your looking for. |
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| Waskel hasn't pulled the trigger yet and there's a lot of nice pickin's out there right now. I'd Love to get that CL Acoustic cracks and all but just not feasible financially right now.
I just wanted to get him a nice/durable guitar for the mission.. plus the ability to plug in, and no worrys about either leaving it, losing it, or having it misappropriated at the airport.
Thought this one fit the bill pretty nicely.. and if he left it with someone there would hold up to some heavy (tho unintentional) abuse and love.
God Bless,
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Location: Parrish, FL | Hey Waskel
Have you seen this one?
1860 Balladeer
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Location: closely held secret | Yes, I'm keeping my eye on that one, Blue. ;)
Thanks for keeping me in mind! |
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didn't you read the article that said stay clear of old Ovations??? :p
I do like that Orange-like burst. |
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Location: closely held secret | I think maybe my wife wrote that article under a pseudonym. |
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Location: closely held secret | I cracked up laughing reading this description. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | That can be a little close to home! |
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Location: closely held secret | Didn't want to take a chance on hurting his rating - that's priceless. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I invited him over. Told him we were talking about him. |
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Location: closely held secret | Good. He might need a place to stay. :D |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Ooooh Busted! :eek: |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Waskel,
I thought I saw a Custom Balladeer that went for $200 on ebay this weekend. I didn't notice till it was too late and, thinking only of myself as usual, my only thought was that it looked just like the one I just paid $225 for.
Were you sleeping or just miss it? |
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Location: Parrish, FL | I'm out of this one.
01bluemiata...that's me! ;)
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Location: closely held secret | Yeah, Mark, I was away from the house most of this weekend. Missed on that one. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I should have just bought it and brought it over to you or sold you mine if the ebay one was better. Can't spend all of our time on ebay, I was out stinking up the golf course after church on Sunday. |
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Location: closely held secret | Mark, I wouldn't expect you to do that, but the thought is certainly appreciated. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Considering my luck with ebay, I wouldn't get it if I really wanted it. |
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Location: closely held secret | You didn't. I did. :D |
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| Congrats. Now put your Roland pick up on it and you will be as a creature from another planet when you hit Uganda. ;) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Waskel,
Watch the green Balladeer that just got listed on ebay. Not much info except it's an 1861 |
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Location: closely held secret | Got one. Pretty much just what I was looking for, except for the deeper bowl. This will do just fine! :D
Thanks so much for everyone's help and suggestions!
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