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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | I want to sell my Jim Rickard Deacon.As many of you know Jim put a walnut pickguard on his and i believe there was one other that went to Jim Massina.Jim also chose to use a nonbound neck with dot inlays.This is a historic piece and will obviously be priced slightly more than a average deacon selling on e-bay.I have added the adamas walnut volume and tone knobs and the wooden trus rod cover.All these parts came from ovation.I still have the original trus cover and knobs.I also added the ovation logo on the body but it can come off very easily.If anyone is interested and would like to discuss it or ask questions please email me or call me samova@comcast.net or 404 409-6242cell
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Location: Upper Left USA | Sam, that is beautiful! From the first time I viewed it and it's sister that Miles has (look at the grain in the PG) I was awestruck.
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | The third toggle switch kicks in the turbo booster..You dont want to touch that switch.It will snap your head back..The switch is original and probably installed by Jim himself.Im pretty sure he not only was instrumental in developing the body but the electronics as well for the original deacons
As far as i can tell it puts the pick ups out of phase with each other or something to that effect.Ive listened to the differences and with the other toggle switches in certain positions you can tell a difference.It kinda sound to me like the difference between a strat sound and a "twangy" teli sound..Im not really a serious electric player but that is what it sounds like to me. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by samova:
The third toggle switch kicks in the turbo booster..You dont want to touch that switch.It will snap your head back.. :eek: :eek: :eek:
And that eternal 18 year old inside of me just absolutely came alive with that statement. Way to drop a carrot and keep on walking Sam. Just beautiful. |
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Location: Evansville,IN | Superb example of a Deacon. Just lovely. Wish I had some extra cash laying around. :( |
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| Sold Sam!
I figured If I was going to have to pay a lot for a real nice Deacon then why not just cut through all the clutter and go for the best I have seen in some time.
I am proud to own this one. And it will be played all the time. very carefully of course.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Nice buy, Randy. And such good timing, just when you were talking about replacing the Gibson with a Deacon. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Randy,
Outstanding taste in guitars and friends!
When you realign your tag-line I suggest you go by historical reference and horizontally!
I have gotten much inspiration from that one and Miles' "Other Jim" Deacon.
I may have a "Jim's Deacons" re-issue in twelve by the weekend... |
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| Well I was thinking about owning a Deacon. The ones I had already seen were all fantastic, let me tell ya extreamly nice! but I kinda wanted to modify them like the ones Mike has. You know the real nice looking wood pickguards. Then when I started to realize the actual value these things have or at least are starting to have I remembered Sams. And it hit me...... Now my Wife's gonna Hit me!
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| I know it. I fell right into it, no doubt, but it ain't like Sam's givin it to me. My Gibson did not exactly cover it. I can't wait though.
Hey I'll be bringing it to the get together along with a few others. It's a 2 1/2 hour drive for me or so. So I'll pack the car for those who may be flying so they can pass their's around and still have someones ovation in thier hands all night.
It's always nice to type messages to someone you have a shared interest with but it's artificial and removed enough that it makes a phone call seem like a real personal thing these days.
So meeting in person and a hand shake or walking and talking is the next step. Then there is the Shared meal at a table and drinks and laughs among friends through a long evening of stories and funny tales. But their just ain't nothing quite like sitting and playing music and sharing some stories and drinks and music of all kinds among fellow musicians for me! Just don't get much more personal than that.
I love you guy's!
Ohh christ I,ve lost it.....................
throw a rope or a rock...something.....
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Randy,the way these guitars have been climbing in price in a couple of years you will be telling the story of how you stole this guitar from me ;) ;) .Anyway,i know you will love this guitar and its history..Now i think i will list a minty 1979 adamas 1687-9 for sale.Ive had it for years and really never play it.It is just so clean with owners manual and original case.Anyone want a jump start on this one email me @ samova@comcast.net |
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| Thanks Sam. It's going to a good home where it will be used not abused. I am very pleased with the results in funding & finding a deacon, and one of this lineage in this short time.
I looked at the colors again on the Adamas's I was always partial to the #7 beige or the Red. and The brown is really something. I'll bet it must be even better in person! Like some kind of exotic wood from a distance. A real classy carved leather strap and this would be quite the stage rig!
The other thing is I will bet there are not as many made in this color. Most people would buy, and the marketing of the colors on the brochure cover models would suggest the more obvious colors like Red & Blue or even Black were more common.
I can say I have not seen an Adamas 1 one run on ebay in brown since I can remember when???
Anyone ever find out the production numbers in this color?
You heard it guy's! Anyone waiting to own one of these great guitars here it is!
Now I gotta buy some stuff from the OFC store. I want a DVD anyway and I need to thank Miles and Al for the use of this site to make this deal possible.
Wonderful site! Nice bunch-a-musicians and nuts we are.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "...in a couple of years you will be telling the story of how you stole this guitar from me..."
I can vouch for that. I got my first Bluebird from Sam and it must be worth at least another fifty or so by now, wouldn't it Sam? :)
Nice Deacon, Randy!
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| Metaxa? Sure sounds like a wild bottle of firewater to me. Hey I'll ask, perhaps I could save it and bring it to the factory gig and share it compiments of SAMOVA??? If he would like.
Perhaps I'd better find out just what Metaxa actually is? Hey If no one knows then I'll give it to Al about 2:00am and well see what happens!
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Randy, way to go!
Glad you modified your thinking a bit about the value of Deacons and you grabbed a great one with a lot of history!
Terrific grab and I am glad this one is staying in the family! |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Wayne, i still cant believe i sold you that guitar that cheap!! What the hell was i thinking.I'll get ya on the next one, LOL.
Tony,Randy,ive got a few bottles of Metaxa laying around just like a good Greek boy should.Its right next to the bottles of Ouzo.. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by northcountry:
Metaxa? Sure sounds like a wild bottle of firewater to me. Hey I'll ask, perhaps I could save it and bring it to the factory gig and share it compiments of SAMOVA??? If he would like.
Perhaps I'd better find out just what Metaxa actually is? Hey If no one knows then I'll give it to Al about 2:00am and well see what happens!
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:cool: I'm not sure what it is either but if this doesn't sound like a precursor to a "Honey, I Shrunk Al" episode, nothing does... :rolleyes:
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| Thanks Steve I honestly did not know these have been reaching these prices. Now we all know there are a lot of ebay auctions that mysteriously dissappear right after they are listed. I am of the thinking there are a lot of nice deacons bought for a fairly low price this way. And that is great actually. I did not want to go through the wait so;
To buy one straight up through this site from guy's who do the values much better than I, well that proved to be more expensive than I had expected. So after looking through all the great Deacons that there are just in this site I found what I figured was the best. And that was of course Sam's. I knew it was going to be about double or more from what I wanted to spend but hey I wanted to know. If I did not sell the Gibson so fast and have a fair chunk of cash to work with and build on I never could have bought this guitar.
I will cherish it and you know I will ask the membership in here first if I ever have to sell it. I like the idea of it staying within the family myself.
But I can tell ya I have no intension of letting this one go.
Thanks again for working on a deal Stephen! you have some fantastic equipment for sale. And I still want that Mandolin but hey I'm in a word "tapped" after this one.
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | randy,Getting the deacon ready for shipping.
went into my stash of Metaxa.I will marinate the pickups overnight in the metaxa so they will sound hotter when you get it.Also i will coat the strings with ouzo,this will make them sound brighter.This guitar will kick ass when you get it.And dont worry no extra charge for the special treatment and "set up"..
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Have you seen Mile's "Jim Messina" Deacon?
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| Sam I am serious about the Metaxa I think it would be quite the hoot to open a bottle of this at the tour, in your name, (assuming your not going to make it?) and we'll all toast your absence! Not "to" your absence...Just your absence.
Sam am I correct in understanding the history of this guitar is one of two made? The owner was one of the original Ovation engineers and he modified two Deacons to end up with this one and an almost identical one that he owned but that eventually went to Jim Massena?
Mike I have not seen the one Miles has? Would love to though. I have emailed Miles about possibly purchasing a Real Nice Deacon but he must be burried in moving. I would love to see hthis one though and perhaps when he is back to sitting down to a computer for a while I will ask him to post a shot or two so we can all see it. I see now how the whole wood pickguard thing became so popular. These guitars look nice in black as well but to me the wood guards just make them look very regal.
Sam can I ask what year this Deacon is again?
By the way anyone reading this who has not seen Samovas photo's take a look! I did not see it this last time I went to look but somewhere there is a group shot of a whole courtyard full of electric Ovations and even more shots of some of the coolest Adamas guitars I have ever seen in one place! Sam is his own Ovation Fan Club. Really nice stuff.
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| Sam This Guitar is on it's way and I can't wait to plug it in and try it out. I was going to print the history from this section as you wrote a brief history of in the first posting. I was thinking this is very much Ovation history, Perhaps you could post a nice message that contains as much information you have about this Deacon? I know very little about this one and perhaps it will make a good read.
Thanks Randy A Pleasure Sam! Sure am rethinking that whole "Brown" Adamas thing. That guitar yoi have for sale is Da-Bomb! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Here are the two I have seen. Miles' and Sam's a tale of two Jim's deacons:
There is a post from someone connected to the "early" days that has a wood PG'd Deacon - over at the Breadwinner site:
"Yup, I have a Deacon tht was originally designed for and owned by Jessie Collin Young (the Young bloods / ...C'mon people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together try to love one another right now...). During the 70's a fellow by the name of Melonfarm Dellabernarda was president of Ovation Div. of Kaman, and also happened to be a good friend of my father (both living in East Windsor, CT. My dad purchased this Deacon after it was returned to Ovation by Mr. Young due to the fact that he wanted the entire guitar to have chrome hardware, and Ovation sent him out one woth a brass nut (without plating it). Well, musician's can be picky, so Ovation just made him another one and my dad bought the original Deacon through Mr. Dellabernarda as a blem. This was my first guitar, and I still own it to this day. Unfortunately, there's no paperwork that verifies this, but I've been thinking about contacting Ovation to see if they can dig through their archives to see if there's any proof of the transactions between them and Mr. Young (a documented sreial # would be nice). Anyway, nice collection and great page folkks!!!"
I have encouraged him to post here so we'll see!!!
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Location: Upper Left USA | Take a look at the grain.
Same block of Walnut. Makes you wonder if the rest of the block is holding up one of the legs on Kim's desk!
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Location: GA USA | I was thinking the other day that MWoody ought to outfit his works of art with special signature trc's. That way they become collector's items in themselves (as if they weren't already).
Sam could put some sort of special feature on his oddball guitars as well. Several of us own them. I could have the Demon Deacon retrofitted with said feature, I bet. But what would it be? Talk amongst yourselves. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Jas,i just started putting my own special features on my "oddball" guitars.Randy is the first to get the "samova signature feature"
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| Now I am scared! You didn't scratch your initials on the body wiht a jacknife did-ja??
I think I will keep the wink wink nudge nudge for the factory trip! I am not that brave anymore Sam. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | I also carved my middle name too.It reads Sam Theodore Stathakis and then below that in cursive "A SAMOVA EXCLUSIVE"..It took two lines.Thank god the body is kind of long to get all that carved on it. |
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| Hey it's here! Came yesterday afternoon Sam! Very nice! I have a true "classic" Ovation in this one. I am very pleased with my choice in an Ovation electric. Poor thing was in shock though it was ZERO outside.
Anyway this is some guitar Sam, It does have this very slight rattle coming from the bridge area? I will assume this is that small black plastic bridge cover. I am already planning to replace that with a chunk of hand carved walnut. Why not right this guitar has been modified since it's inception by the factory and everyone who has owned it and I carve wood for a living of sorts.! I will try and match something similiar to the Adamas 1 bridge carvings and the Custom Legends. I will most photo's perhaps along with Mikes pickguards this site will become a one stop custom shop for old O's. THe neck looks as though it may need a slight adjustment as well but that is no problem.
Nice signature Sam! Ohh I have not gone through all the packing yet but it does seem a little heavy I will check tonight for the bottle.
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Randy,the bottle is the most important part!!
Im not sure why there is a rattle from the bridge area.I never heard it at all.BTW,the batteries are brand new no need to replace anytime soon.glad you like the guitar.I was speaking yesterday with a former Ovation Employee and best freind to Jim Rickard.He remembers the guitar well and was telling me that the breadwinner/deacon project was Jim's baby.He designed most everything on that model.He also remembers a young Bill Kaman speeding in the parking lot side road and almost running him over.We got a good laugh out of that one.Hope Bills a better driver now !!! |
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| Now That's the kind of history I was hoping I could get you to write for me. I really do need a nice note from you and signed by you as one of it's owners and perhaps a nice history at least what you know of it included so I can keep this with the guitar. I will figure out that buzzing. It really does sound like it's right where the bridge and the plastic and the low E string meet?
I nice history posted here would be a fun read for the rest of the Ovation fans. I sure hope that Metaxa does not freeze or it will most likely burst when It thaws out.... like a few hours ago in the box? If it makes it it's going to the next tour!
Thanks again Sam
OK I found it! Wow Sam I thought this might be a bottle of some kind a new beer.
This is apparently some kind of Wine on steriods! I did not think this was such a big bottle. I'll crack it just before the Jam session and pass it around!
Thanks again Sam I sure would love to play a little music with ya at this event! But hey We'll be thinking of ya. And Al will be calling you for bail money about 3:00am that day!
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| I found the rattle culprit. Just thought you guy's might like to know.......The little black plastic tailpiece cover is secured to the brass plate by little plastic extrusions that fit through holes in the plate and are melted and mushroomed out like a rivet to hold this assembly in place.
I think the guitar was in the 10 below weather for long enough that when I brought it in and tuned it up a little the plastic was still brittle and a couple of the little musrooms kinda broke off leaving the plastic to buzz in these areas. The strings go through this plastic piece and actually pull upward on this piece as the strings head up and over the bridge saddles. I have made two new tailpiece covers out of birdseye maple. One blond and one with some mohagany stain! They are both beautiful compared with the plastic piece and these are securred with very small screws into the hard wood so this should eliminate the problem and increase the good looks of these guitars. I will post a shot or two of these pieces tonight I made them both today for fun but I have not done one in Walnut yet with the carving... This will come later. Figured some of you Deacon guy's might want to see what these can look like.
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| Ok I managed to load one real crappy photo into my gallery.... I made two of the fairly complicated wooden pieces to replace the black plastic bridge cover that I just do not like the look of....so yesterday and today I cut a chunk off a piece of Birdseye Maple stock and split it in half to make two covers to see what they look like... These were not as easy as I had originally thought they would be. They are more than just covers they are actually part of the bridge. THese are now drilled and tapped so they can be screwed on. they are much more stable and strong than the plastic pieces are. As soon as I restring this I will get at least one decent overall photo of the guitar. The figure in these pieces of wood is just extraordinary! The one I decided on is the Red/brown stained one. The other looks like a piece of silk the wood, it is so figured, with just the clear and no stains at all. But it is a little to bright for my tastes. I might just sand it off and refinish it red... for a spare? I may just sell it as is or trade for a plastic pick guard. As I do plan on doing a fully carved walnut piece eventually....I wish the photo's could show off how smooth and busy the grain is. The flsah kind of washed out th left side as well best I could do for now.
I wish I knew how to put the photo right in this text but??? I am happy I figured out the gallery photo's. I do apologize for the pic. it is not the best. Thanks for looking Hope it gives some of you guys an Idea or an inspiration. I love it!
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| Yep I thought about Ebony that would look nice! I think Walnut with carving will be the final verdict for me. I can replace the black plastic piece anytime for originality, no need to worry, it was not damaged at all.
I had this chunk of Birdseye around for a long long time and it is an odd size so I have not used it. I decided to go at it and see what happens. You will have to see it in person the grain is quite stunning and with the stain it makes a nice contrast.
And I do not quite understand how it was designed that that single center bolt would be the integral piece that the strings pull against?
The height adjustment posts work great though. and the intonation is easy enought to set.
I am really having fun with this guitar! IT does sound real good cranked up a little. It has a few scratches I am going to buff out and if I play it with any regularity I think I will make a black pickguard or find an old one so I can save this walnut one. |
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| OK hate to beat a topic that has certainly run it's course... but I have finally loaded a shot of that Deacon with everything but the schallers on it. I am, going to be looking for a nice used pickguard or a large piece of black pickguard material so I can save this walnut cover. I am going to be playing this one a lot! THe Gibson SG I had was fantastic but I love the action on this one much better than the new Gibson. I like the feel of very low frets and low action on an electric and this one plays better than the old Fender I once had. Very fast! I have a keeper here! Nice little secret you Deacon Owners have had.. These are very, very well made guitars!
Anyone interested in the other handcarved Birdseye Maple tailpiece cover let me know. I am interested in a simple trade for a good pickguard?
Wish my photo's would load a little clearer? Must be my camera and the resolution needed to get them to go through or something? This tailpiece is stunning. And so you know the plastic original piece is easy to replace with small screws underneath instead of the melted plastic you have holding it on there now. And the screws are much stronger! There is a slightly different sound you can hear, even when playing unplugged, with the hardwood instead of the plstic.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Randy, you scared me at first read. I thought you were going to start tearing apart and retrofitting this historical Deacon! It is good that it is being played!
Would you like a matching - but sacrificial - pickguard for that Deacon? I will need it to copy the color tone and holes. I can send a replacement bridge if you need it.
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| Sorry if a scarred anyone. I had a rattle in that plastic bridge cover and in the process of repairing this weak spot I decided to simply make the replacement piece out of wood. It looks fantastic in person. And is very functional.
I figure I may make a replacement pickguard as well Mike. I am worried about the originality of this instrument and I do not want to put finger and pick scratches on this pickguard. This walnut pickguard is laminated by the way... it has a thin layer of black & white that runs all the way round the outside edge. I want to keep this one nice.
I think when I am done with it I will have replaced the walnut truss rod cover and the tailpiece cover with the same ebony or other dark wood. I will carve them with similiar patterns and I think this will bring out the contrast that is missing with to much of the same kinds of wood on everything.
In the meantime Sam is planning on mailing me the original balck plastic truss cover and the knobs. These were original as well. Thanks for the offer of the replacement bridge. But I still have the one this came with and it is not damaged in any way and can be returned to this guitar quite easily.
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If possible, I'd like to see what the underside of that PG looks like, as in electronics and all.
There are a few of us that would like to see if a solid state reissue of the electronics for D/BW/Preacher, etc., could be made available!
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| You got it... Hey I was just going through my old lumber rack and I found a nice piece of figured walnut. I might try to make the tailpiece and the truss rod cover with the carving this week. I think I might just hit them with a little darker stain this will bring out the contrast I want between the woods.
I will send photo's when I get to taht point Thanks Mike. These are wonderful guitars I am very pleased I chose this one. Sam was right it's expensive but Well worth the money.
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Location: Upper Left USA | The neck is outstanding! I have dressed the frets and I need to finish working the body and PG. I have all of next week off and I hpe to get some quality garage time.
Projects include:
Limited Body to 12 string Deacon neck with Phat Cats.
Viper Neck to scallopped Viper Body with SD designed HBs.
Deacon to six string conversion with Air Nortons.
Mr. G's Preacher body and PG.
TRC's for Ovations and Tacoma's.
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| I am having a hard time trying to find a good close up shot of the Custom Legend bridge carving. Not owning one of these myself, I have to go by a photo to do a few carving details that will match what the Ovation creators have been using to detail their walnut bridges. Could I trouble someone to post or email me a good close up bridge photo that would be printable. Thanks I can't belive that auctions on Ebay this week they have some nice shots but not one good close up of the bridges?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This is from Jerome's website
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| Perfect! Very nice old Custom bridge carving there! Thanx. Randy
Check out the simple drawings I loaded to the gallery I did these as a guide for me to work from, to make these carved pieces. I will make these out of Walnut and use some ebony stain on them to match the nice black fret board that I believe is a rosewood? on my Deacon. I will carve one set of truss & bridge covers in a traditional Ovation style similiar to their Custom legend carvings. And for fun another set that looks very "Hippy" late 60's style wording....THE DEACON.....BY OVATION..... |
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Location: Mechanicsburg,Pa. | Originally posted by MWoody:
Cool Randy.
If possible, I'd like to see what the underside of that PG looks like, as in electronics and all.
There are a few of us that would like to see if a solid state reissue of the electronics for D/BW/Preacher, etc., could be made available!
And yes, the Deacon neck is a long lost secret! I wish I had more of them! Yes!, I too would like to see the electronics part of the underside of that pickgaurd. I thought I might give my 3 years of vocational electronics a brush up and try to reproduce what I don"t have. Making circuit boards and such. I'm sure BruDev could help keep on track in such an endevour. I wonder what his hourly rate is? |
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| You guy's do realize my guitar is not a standard electronics set up?
My personal take on this, is to "have a look at a standard Deacon" there must be a bunch of them in this group that have not touched electronically??? right? That would be the set up you would want if you are trying to get your guitars working.
Or is this a modification?
If so, the set up Jim did on this Deacon is quite unique and it makes it a true one of a kind. I am quite sure you see the point I am trying to carefully state here.
Now I'd be glad to help a member fix an old deacon but my guitar still would not be the best choice from which to copy electronically. The Standard deacons electronics are more straight forward and would be much easier to use.
If I get to the pickguard I may venture a few shots.....but really have you seen my photo's????? Not the best of quality there. You may end up with more questions than answers.
If you guy's are actually looking to make an "electronics reissue" I am really not sure if I want this one to be the model? Have not put much thought in it. But I do know I have more of an incentive to keep this guitar as unique as it is. I sure hope you see my point and I think you would if you were in my position. THis would take some consideration.
I am a woodcarver and if any of you ever have an interest in some of my work then please let me know. I am sure we all have ovation items and specific tallents to trade around etc.
Hope your Christmas's were full.
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| I am offering this very special ovation solid body to any "member" for a certain amount of monetary compensation. You can buy a lot of things with money but there are only one of these around. You can only buy something like this when an owner decides to let someone else possess it. This is your chance.
I have plans to redo my collection of Adamas's with factory customs. And my Electric guitar needs have become more simple, I have a Jimy Nagi custom made electric up for sale ($1000) as well as this great Deacon. I will use the money generated from these to buy my final electric for gigging, and the cash left will go to household expenses. At my age I now know where my musical talents and tastes will be used and I am molding my equipment to better serve this purpose.
This Deacon is the "ONE"
I am not sure if I will offer it on ebay ever.........I should not have to, and it would be a shame!
Someone in here (and I know there are a few of you who have this kind of $ to tap from) need to own this.
Still plays like it ever did and depending upon the effects your using...these toggle switches, Mr. Rickard added, do all kinds of weird things. I still do not know exactly what its capable of. Jim was, no doubt, a true electronics genius.
Email me at home for a price if your seriously interested. it is not cheap but like the J.M. Deacon that was built to look like this one, a true collectors Deacon in a class of its own.
rldecker@frontiernet.net
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Location: CT | Originally posted by samova:
[QB] Jim also chose to use a nonbound neck with dot inlays.
Sooo.. Doesn't that make this a Breadwinner? They are the same guitar, except for the necks. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | I believe all Breadwinners had painted bodies.
Could be wrong!!
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Location: CT | OK, that makes sense. Instead of the stains and sunbursts. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I think the BW Ltd was a natural mohagany, no? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The limited body was finished like a deacon. Natural mahog or greyburst. Dave |
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Location: GA USA | My Deacon has a painted body, gloss black. When I bought it from Samova, I asked "Isn't it a Breadwinner?" He said "Nope, it is a Deacon". Good enough for me. If anybody knows a Deacon from a 'Winner, it's Sam. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The main difference between the Deacon and Breadwinner is the Deacon was a "Fancy" breadwinner.
I guess it just depends on how far you want to take "fancy". Normally it meant the bound neck with inlays and a stained body. There were a "couple/few" black gloss bodies done. Either neck went on them. Are they Deacon's or Breadwinners?... yep.
I guess if you wanted to be accurate, look under the bridge or the bridge pickup. They usually put the model number there with a felt-tip. |
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| Am I mistaken that the Bread winners had non powered pickups for a time as well? while the Deacons were built specifically as the "new" technology battery electronics.
Also ther necks I usually see on the Deacon has the little carved (like Miles said) Fancy feature on the high end of the neck. Was this feature available on the standard bread winners.
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Location: CT | Another shot of the Custom Legend bridge detail: 
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Nice bridge, what's it doing here?
Breadweinners were bowl paint of some color, Deacons were gloss.
Both were active electronics.
There were some non-active breads made for the partridge fammine but they were really just props for the show although they did work. Maybe a dozen made. |
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| I was looking for a good photo to do a carving on the wood tailpiece covers I made for this deacon. This was a couple a years ago and I have owned and sold two great Custom Legends since I asked for a photo back then.
I brought this thread back to life to better explain this great guitar of Jim's that I just sold Beal. Now that I look at it I guess it would have been better had I mentioned this was an older posting? My Bad.
When you go back to Florida, can I come with you?
I am freekin cold.
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Beal
Did they use the same pickups for the non active PF Breadwinners?
Randy for your info it's 30degC here today.
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