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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | After several private emails and messages, and then after taking that information and conducting more research at the Adamas site and what I could find on the web...I have decided to pursue a later model W597 rather than the 1597 or another "O".
I am seeing several selling on ebay in the $1100 range, and may go after one of those, but thought I would post here to see if there is any interest.
If so, shoot me a private message or email me at 'jeffreyrdavis at yahoo.com'
Thanks to everyone in this group for your advice and comments. I am hoping that the Adamas will make a great stablemate for my 1537. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | We delight in finding ways to spend your money!
Wish you the best! |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | I could tell that between you and Mark in Boise, I didn't stand a chance. Let's see if I can manage to spend it properly now (I tend to keep my good guitars a LOOOOONNNNNGGGG time).
Thanks again for all the help. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff, this might be one to consider on the bay.
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Thanks....looks pretty sweet, but he same wifey who said get what I want...had one condition. No more single hole guitars...she thinks the epulets and holes are "cute". I don't care what she calls it as long as that endearment she has for it get's me an Adamas.
Anyone know anything about Elderly Instruments in Michigan. They have a Cobalt Blue that looks to be close (if they will negotiate a bit). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Heck Jeff....just pull out the CC, call Al and grab one of the last remaining U681T guitars.
Then you will have one of the best wood top guitars and one of the best Adamas guitars. Looks awesome and has a booming yet clear ringing tone/voice that must be heard in person to believe it.
Just my 2 cents (always great when it isn't my money!) :D |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | You are a smart man, Jeff. Do what your wife says. Both of you will be happy. I've been thinking about the U681T, too, but my wife isn't quite as agreeable. Of course, you didn't buy 8 guitars since last Christmas like I did. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | No....sure didn't Mark. Rather I spent $16K on a new Goldwing. And it is stuck in the garage right now....but my 1537 has been out to play with me twice today already (before I went to work and at home for lunch).
Hey...has anyone noticed how nice of a guitar the 1537's are. I know that no one talks about them much...but boy they sound, look and feel sweet. I should send it back to Ovation and have it rebuilt...but wait....WHY!!! it is near perfect now....WHAT WAS I THINKING.
Oh...there is a 681 on brother bobby's site right now for $1699. Looks pretty sweet, but I am quite concerned with the higher price and wider neck than the 597. Is that the same or wider than my 1537? I have pretty small hands, so can't go much wider than what I have now. Me and classicals do not get along. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I believe all the U681Ts have the regular neck size with the exception of a few that were custom ordered to be wide necks (like Witko's).
Definately not a classical sized neck.....same as my Adamas 1581 & 1681 (which I believe is the same as the 1537). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff, for a cutaway along the same lines...might I suggest the glorious 1581 Adamas II reissue.
That guitar has massive balls, the cutaway and the neck. I just played both the U681T and the 1581 reissue and man......you can't go wrong either way.
Since it sounds like you to plan to own just a couple of guitars, then spend a little more and get one you will never get tired of or wish for something else. If you like your 1537, either of these two Adamas will absolutely blow you away!
I am sure Al has some available for a great price or check out these:
Sigler Music / Adamas 1581 reissue
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Jeff, I should have had you meet us at the A&W out by the interstate on your Goldwing. Then you could show us your airplane and 1537 and let your wife tell mine how we deserve whatever we want for Christmas. Then we would leave before they start swapping stories about us. I'll try to remember this plan next time I drive past Hermiston. Then we could see your new Adamas. It doesn't sound like you could go wrong with any of them. I wish they had some around here to try out. |
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Location: Keller, TX | Jeff,
You should be able to find a W597 around. They pop up rather frequently. Personally, I love the sound of the w597's. I recently got a Millenium (essentially a w597 dressed up for the party) and love it. Goes well with my 1681 too.
I do like the sound of the U681, but not a fan of the slot head (which is why I have a black 1681).
I think you can't go wrong. Call Al. If he has what you want, it is the place to get it. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff, this might be the one!
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/msg/116624967.html |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Jeff, I played the cobalt blue Adamas at Elderly Saturday. Pretty darn good one....and it's a late model, it has a truss rod cover.
As far as them going down, you can ASK.....they've had that one a while. It was there when I was there last July, I believe.
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Thanks...I did call them and ask, and they thumbed their nose. I only asked for $100 and agreed to pay shipping.
Nice enough folks, but they just said they don't dicker. Had my credit card all ready to go too.
Thanks Stephen on the craigslist point out. I have sent him an email, but really am kind of looking for the woven top model. After all, that's what you all said was the better of the two.
I am negotiating on a natural 597 right now that is a late model also with the newer electronics, so hope to hear in the next day or so on that. I am finding that the 597 and 1597s are out there in the $900 to $1100 range if you are patient, so I shall be patient. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Jeff, I should have had you meet us at the A&W out by the interstate on your Goldwing. Then you could show us your airplane and 1537 Goldwings are nice (I have one, too, tho not a new one - I'm jealous!) but carrying both an airplane and a 1537 on one would be a challenge.
Probably dangerous, too. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Truth be known....while I am still a pilot (once a pilot always a pilot), I sold my airplane in May. After not finding a suitable replacement right away, my wife suggested we try another Goldwing (I bet you guys are jealous...and yes, she does have two unmarried sisters, but I am quite sure they would not be as understanding). So right now we are planeless which is why I am able to consider an Adamas. But....if I find an airplane before the Adamas, well....the tune may change. So now you know why I really want to find the right Adamas now as it may be my last guitar purchase for some time. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Another question.....Craigslist seems to promote local purchases only to avoid fraud. How would a guy in Oregon safely buy a guitar on craigslist from a guy in MD anyway? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Talk on the phone, have a fellow OFC member go over and check it out for you (we have quite a few in that area).
Jeff, I am confused. The one on craiglist is a model 1597. Isn't that one of the ones you were interested in? |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Well I really want the 597, but again, if it is as good of a deal as it looks, I don't want to rule it out. At $900, that is still pretty cheap and the ruby is a nice color. I have a line on two 597s that I am working, but they are $200 to $400 higher and getting the deals closed is a real pain as the retailers are not real responsive in call backs and such.
I am waiting for an email from the guy on the 1597 just to see if I want to proceed. I think that Al had a similar one for sale at $1297 on ebay, so $900 looks to be a pretty good price, but the risk bothers me with the distance issue and no knowledge of the seller. Pretty big ticket to get stiffed on. |
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Location: Port Charlotte, FL | Curious what is the difference between the older and newer W597's. I gather that the newer ones have a truss rod cover, but is there anything else interesting?
Cheers,
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | All I can see is perhaps the electronics. Beyond that...it doesn't appear much. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Anyone near Mechanicsville, MD that would be willing to take a look at an Adamas? Thanks for the pointout on the 1597 in Ruby Red. Looks like a really good deal. Apparently a 2001 or 2002 model, but looks pretty sweet, so if I can feel good about spending that kind of money remotely, I may jump on this one. |
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Location: Parrish, FL | Here ya go. Currently $899 w/$999 BIN W597 on the Bay |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Oh sure......just hours after I make a bid of the minimum of $100 more on the other one. Oh Bother!!! |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Too bad. That's a good deal on a 597. I almost bought one of those before folks here talked me into buying my 1537 from Jeff W. I think the 597 would compliment your 1537 nicely. I've played both a 1597 and a 597 but not in one sitting and if memory serves me they sounded and played very similar.
Still glad I got the 1537 instead though, love that guitar. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Well, the search has ended (I hope successfully) as I purchased a W597 in Natural. Probably paid a tad more than I could have, but it is a pretty late model, so hopefully in the shape represented.
Now we shall see if the Adamas is all it is rated to be....my "last for a lifetime" guitar. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | OK, next time I stop at the A&W by the interstate, you will have to bring both your guitars. I don't know how you'll carry both on your Goldwing, but that's your "problem". I have trouble fitting more than one in the Porsche, too. My wife wouldn't like it if I left her home so I could strap a guitar in the passenger seat. Maybe I should take the golf clubs out of the trunk, but she probably wouldn't like it in there either. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Listen....as long as you are at the A&W anyway, why not just take the 3 mile detour and pop on into my house. The bathrooms are cleaner, coffee is on (hey...I even am getting pretty good with the Espresso machine the kids bought me for my birthday), and the music room fully equipped with some Vintage Ludwigs, Mackie board, EV speakers and Roland Key's. You can cut a quick demo on the Tascam while your wife is using the potty, and be back on the freeway in minutes. I will even let you play my Adamas and 1537....Now if that isn't FULL SERVICE, I don't know what is. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Sounds good, if we aren't in a big rush next time. I could play my whole repertoire in the time it took to eat at the A&W. That doesn't mean the service is slow, I just don't know much. I have never played an Adamas. Of course, I never played any of the models that I have, except the Balladeer before I bought one. If my wife figures that out, she probably won't let me stop, cuz I'll have to have an Adamas. |
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