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Location: Colorado | Is this really what these things sell for?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Try to have one made and you'll probably find out that's about right. Maybe cheap. You can get the import for under a grand, however. Dave |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | We'll see if this becomes part of my collection, I just sent the seller an email to go and take a look at it.
Somehow I missed it being listed on e-bay, thanks for the heads up. Always dreamed of owning a doubleneck O, just wasn't hog wild about the Celebrity version.
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| Despite the Sambora connection I'd pay that for it - it's just not the first $5000 I'd spend on Os and As if I had it spare. It is a fantastic guitar. Just wonder what it's like to hold being deep bowl. |
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Location: NJ | I'd pay that for it too, . . . if I could swing it . . . |
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Location: Colorado | I got one two week job in May I could use it on...it's a lot of $$$ for one two week gig. Not sure I have that much GAS. Hey Aloha-Tim - not to get presumptious here - but let us all know what you think of it when you play it. Describe the case too. |
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Location: NJ | probably more like 8 now |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Two days and no answers to any of my emails, perhaps he really doesn't want to sell it :(
Maybe I should just reconsider my max bid on that Millenium over on ebay :rolleyes: |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Yeah,
Success contacting the seller. Persistance paid off with emails.
Still working out a time to check it out with work schedule.
Will let you all know about condition, playability and the hardshell case.
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Location: Colorado | If I remember correctly, this particular guitar DID sell for $8000 list back in the 90s. I saw it in one of the guitar magazines' "gear for next year" special editions.
Yeah, I remember taking my little sister to see Bon Jovi for her 16th b-day and seeing Richie play his intro to "Wanted..." and thinking then that I wanted one no matter how practical or non-practical it might prove to be.
$5500 is too much for me even now.
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Under normal conditions, I couldn't afford this much either. I recently lost six guitars when Hurricane Katrina flooded my storage unit in Mississippi. Fortunately, I had the guitars insured very well and the insurance company payed in full. The guitars had belonged to my father and were my only inheritance. The sentimental loss of both the guitars and all my childhood pictures of him playing them can't be replaced, but I know he would approve of investing in a top end roundback.
I'm at a toss-up between the Sambora Doubleneck, the Millenium edition or factory ordering a 1187-247 (Adamas #47). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | When at a crossroads, I always go with the one that will be hardest to find in the future.
In this case, the Sambora...
the 1187-247 will be around for at least another 6-9 months after release so you have time to save up for that one.
Milleniums pop up occasionally.
That is the only USA doubleneck I have seen in a long time. |
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Location: Colorado | This is only the 2nd one I've ever seen on Ebay or anywhere else for that matter.
Tim, I'm touched by your story with the loss of such irreplaceable, sentimental belongings. My wife recently took a picture of me playing for our boys (4 years and 21 months) on my Adamas without any of us knowing it. I was sitting on the couch and David and Jacob were both sitting on the floor in front of me. It was very cute and special.
My parents always had music playing in the house when I was growing up (Beatles, Beach Boys, CCR, Clapton, Hank Williams, The Doors, Johnny Rivers, on and on...) but neither of them played a musical instrument. My mom often sang with whatever was on and, perhaps, that's where my appreciation of singing comes from.
But I believe your father provided you with a much greater appreciation for music by showing and teaching you how to make it. It sounds like you are trying to honor his memory while replacing the tangible sentiment you have lost.
Without knowing of the relationship you had with your dad, I would like to offer my humble opinion. I believe the Sambora to be a very rare and unique instrument, hopefully like the relationship you had with your dad.
Best of luck in your decision my friend.
BTW, I see you have the 12-string brother of my 6-string. I am truly jealous.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Weren't there actually two of these made? One was for Samboring and the other was an exact copy? I recall someone selling the copy last spring on eBay. You had to read the fine print to see that it was not actually the one owned by Richy. But who cares who owned it or not, it's a unique guitar and once in a lifetime purchase. Good luck. Dave |
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Location: Colorado | I've seen an auction (a couple of years ago) for the supposed "original" flight case that Richie's original double-neck came in. And if memory serves, it was from a person in Hawaii.
I believe the original guitar is hanging on the wall in a Hard Rock Cafe somewhere.
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Ok, this is moving wwwaaayyy off topic, but I would like to share, it helps me deal ;)
Tim, I'm touched by your story... Unfortunately, my father and I didn't have a great relationship when I was younger. He played often in the nightclub scene after working his normal 40 hour week. He wasn't home too many evenings. I, being a self focused teenage, thought it was because he was a terrible father. I wasn't the model teenage son either, often in trouble and suspended from school. I started working at sixteen and we were growing farther apart. He responded by giving me my independence. It wasn't until much later in my life, when I had a family that I actually began to talk and listened to him. He told me he often regretted not putting more effort into communicating with me.
While always having music in the house, I taught myself to play and rejected all of his efforts to teach me. Dad was a HUGE Elvis fan, as well Chet Atkins & Jerry Reed. Dad played a big old Gretsch White falcon, a Regal Dobro, an old Martin and beat to death Gibson. I moved out at eighteen and joined the military. We wouldn't see each other again for more than an hour or two for another fifteen years. We didn't bond again until just before lossing my mom to cancer in '96. We became best friends and I relish the few times we were able to get together and play for hours on end. Sadly, I lost him to a heart attack in '99.
I now try to spend as much time as I can with my only child and encourage her to seek out musical interest. She took guitar from the time she was 6 till 10, when her music teacher stopped teaching. We tried other teachers, but they didn't seem to work out. She started on the clarinet in band at 11 and loves all forms of music. She is now moving into the teenage years and I often worry I'll lose her to boys and dating. I know she has to grow up and she definately shares a lot of my stubborn habits. I just work towards not doing anything to cut off our friendship. I have a great loving wife of twenty years now and we are truly each others best friend.
In our household, music is definately the bond we use to keep the family together...
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Location: Colorado | Thanks for sharing Tim. I feel guilty for hi-jacking this thread.
Let us know what you decide on the double-neck.
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Location: Colorado | My guess is there are people on the board who would be interested in the instrument if you are not - but your proximity to the seller gives you the unique opportunity to actually put your hands on it and your ears near it. Give us some feedback..I suppose I could sell a car or two to come up with the cash...which tells everyone the quality of my cars....
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | The day has finally arrived, met the seller, great guy with too many guitars...better for me :)
1993 D768-X (Custom Metal Flake Paint)
Simply stunning in the sunlight. Abalone inlays everywhere. Star MOP fretmarks and MOP tuners.
The deep bowl throws out an intense sound, really nice both unplugged and out the amp.
Weight is a little heavy towards the neck side. Bowl is really comfortable, no complaints standing, sitting down...it's an armfull and definately easier to play in the classical position.
The case is the original as shipped from the mothership. It is a Calzone Case, Bridgeport, CT. Big, heavy-duty and really BIG! (did I say it was BIG??)
Gotta go, need to change a lot of strings on this beast :cool: |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Very nice Tim! Now that's a special guitar. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Very sweet. Glad another special guitar has found a home within the OFC family! |
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Location: NJ | interesting usually the 12 string neck is on top |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Beautiful, Tim. And thanks for putting on long pants for these pictures. |
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Location: NJ | Nice Get!!!
I'd LOVE one of those for gigs . . . |
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Location: North Idaho | Congratulations. I always thought a double neck would be a neat thing. You mention the neck side to be a little heavy. How much does the whole guitar weigh? |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Guitar weighs 8.5 lbs, the case weighs 40 lbs.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Wow! What Ovation can do is amazing. |
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Location: Colorado | Al - just turn it over..that'll help. Tim - bring it to Connecticut in May....Also Tim...Could we work out a lese in early may? ;-)
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Location: south east Michigan | Nice....
I should be in the next calendar.....
hopefully surrounded by Hula Chicks. :) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Nice....
I should be in the next calendar.....
hopefully surrounded by Hula Chicks. :) HAAAAH! That sounds like a firm commitment to produce the 2007 OFC calander! Way to go :D |
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Location: Cicero, NY | And I would assume you meant to say "IT should be in the next calendar surrounded by Hula Chicks", no?
A little Fruedian Slipkid? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | As long as they surrounded him completely where we couldn't see him, I am ok with it! |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Good 'nuff! I'm convinced and will second the motion.
T, maybe we should head the OFCHC's selection committee...? |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | No Hula girls handy, how about a bush?
or maybe a Palm tree?
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Location: East Tennessee | Absolutely Beautiful Guitar. :)
Home equity loan for strings. :D |
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Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida | Interesting Guitar...
Hey Al:
Did the factory do a "one off" for the bowl or did they go to the trouble to make a mold, or some how graft two bowls together ???
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Location: NJ | I am not sure on the bowl. I think they have a mold since they make the imports. |
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Location: south east Michigan | And I would assume you meant to say "IT should be in the next calendar surrounded by Hula Chicks", no?
A little Fruedian Slipkid?
That kind of thing happens to me far to often to be ignored. Especially here.
Great pics Tim...if you take more for the next calendar, make sure your camera is at the highest definition setting.
And about the hula girls...I'm serious....really. |
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Location: NJ | I believe that the bowls (on the "custom" jobs, anyway) are hand-laid.
There's a form laying on a table up in R&D in the shape of a double-neck bowl. When we did the SlotHead Tour, Willie was working on one for another celeb. I saw him a couple weeks ago and asked him about it. He said the guitar was complete and had been back and forth (twice) to the Factory for changes that the customer Wanted. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Well, looking inside at the construction of the bowl, it looks like a mold. But this bugger is HUGE inside. I've played the CSD-225 imported version and you could easily put two of its bowls inside this one. "I" thought the CSD-225 felt "cheap" in construction and a little flimsy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CSD-225 is an import and not made by the mothership. This guitar is solid, I realise I'm biased in my opinion, but to me, it was worth every cent I paid. The quality and craftsmanship are on par of my Adamas's, if not better.
After a few days of playing, this thing is just incredible in the doors it opens for playing music. Changing necks becomes a natural act and very smooth.
"If I had a dream guitar, it would be a custom #47 re-issue 6/12 string doubleneck" but this one runs a very close second.
I won't make it to the CT gathering this year or next, but come 2008 when I get off this island, I will be bringing this thing along for all to try out.
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Location: NJ | Is the inside of the bowl smooth, with a bit of a "plastic-y" semi-sheen to it, or does it almost look like flat-black paint? |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Looks more like laminated fiberglass or something, I can see the matting material...the outside is rough like all the other Ovation bowls I've seen.
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Location: south east Michigan | Nice pics....
Looks hand laid to me.
The weave shows like on the hull of a '68 Bertram. |
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Location: NJ | I believe that's hand-laid . . . Bill??
Nice camera work!
(you should be a proctologist:-) |
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Location: Brentwood,TN | I spoke with Mark Lamanna earlier today concerning maybe building myself a double neck. They start at $7500. This does not include any abalone or custom upgrades. It is bascially an standard elite. A quick figure of the upgrades or otherwords,to have it cosmetically built to Richie Sambora (he had around 6 to 8 double necks and 2 triple necks built from 1988 through 1995) specs is right at $10,000! Mark also said that there is always a double neck being built at the "mothership" mainly because of the lenght of time to build one. He said that Richie has had one built recently and it is a sunburst finish and without any fancy cosmetics. I am glad to know that Sambora has gone back to this because he pretty much dropped "O" in the mid 90's for Taylors? I will be seeing them live next Tuesday night here in Nashville, I hope he brings it out for a song or two? Anyway, thought someone that fancys the double necks might want to know the scoop... |
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Location: SoCal | Interesting comment regarding Sambora. Martin has now built him a "signature" model 6 and 12 string. Somebody in A&R at Ovation needs to convince him of the superiority of the LX's witht the VIP.
We'll see..... |
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Location: NJ | Martin will pretty much make a Sig model for ANYONE with a degree of notariety . . .
I read an interview with 'Bucca a couple years ago, and back then he was espousing the virtues of Gibson acoustics. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
Martin will pretty much make a Sig model for ANYONE with a degree of notariety . . . Well, they DID make a Dave Witko signature model that was recently delivered ... 'course I had to PAY for it. |
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