Another 1537 on the bay
JeffreyD
Posted 2005-12-13 9:32 PM (#332107)
Subject: Another 1537 on the bay


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There is another 1537 on ebay. Starting at $950 and not sure if that is good or not.

Elite 1537

Couple of questions. Looking at the sellers web-site with pictures, this one has a red spacer where the wood binding meets the body of the guitar. My 1537 does not have that. Is this normal????

Also, I did find that my guitar is missing one of the pointers (the tone knob). Is this something you can just carve out of a piece of maple and epoxy on, or should I just leave it as is. I don't really care whether it is there or not, but just curious.

Jeff
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Designzilla
Posted 2005-12-13 9:56 PM (#332108 - in reply to #332107)
Subject: Re: Another 1537 on the bay


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That "red spacer" is not on mine either. I wonder what the heck thst is??? Other than that, it looks very clean.

As far as price, I paid $900 for mine. I wouldn't sell it for twice that.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-13 10:00 PM (#332109 - in reply to #332107)
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Jeff, you might be able to get one of the pointers from the factory ... with the reissues that have the two-knobbers they may have a few laying around.

I don't think mine has a red binding strip either, but I'm in DC so I can't check for a few days. But I think I would've noticed.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-13 10:02 PM (#332110 - in reply to #332107)
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P.S. The seller says "original case" but mine came with the older style brown case. The one in the auction looks a lot more current.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-13 11:44 PM (#332111 - in reply to #332107)
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I don't see a red spacer. What are you guys talking about?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-14 5:53 AM (#332112 - in reply to #332107)
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Mine does not have this.

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Norseman1
Posted 2005-12-14 7:41 AM (#332113 - in reply to #332107)
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This is the rare and coveted "Red Streak" series that was only made on two Mondays in April of 1983...very desireable piece...could bring as much as $18,000.00 on the open market.
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-14 7:45 AM (#332114 - in reply to #332107)
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. . . it all came about when KMC's "SafeSex" campaign went just a BIT too far . . .
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Norseman1
Posted 2005-12-14 7:46 AM (#332115 - in reply to #332107)
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:eek:
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Designzilla
Posted 2005-12-14 8:38 AM (#332116 - in reply to #332107)
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Originally posted by cliff:
. . . it all came about when KMC's "SafeSex" campaign went just a BIT too far . . .
I thought that was only with the Adamas models, which are "textured for her pleasure".
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-14 8:42 AM (#332117 - in reply to #332107)
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Well, . . . the SlotHeads WERE "ribbed". . . .
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frank10101
Posted 2005-12-14 9:30 AM (#332118 - in reply to #332107)
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Why would he white out the serial number?
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stephent28
Posted 2005-12-14 9:32 AM (#332119 - in reply to #332107)
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A lot of people don't like to list serial numbers because they can be used by unscrupulous scam artists when selling bogus gear.

A 301xxx is one of the early ones. Looks very nice and a good price.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-14 9:41 AM (#332120 - in reply to #332107)
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Ok. I didn't look at the additional pics. I've never seen that red stripe on a 1537 before. But it does look like a nice guitar.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2005-12-14 9:57 AM (#332121 - in reply to #332107)
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Is this the additional "spacer" that is talked about on Adamas guitars that makes the bowl 1/4" deeper? It does look like a spacer and give the appearance that the bowl is deeper. Also notice that it has neither "pointer" in place.

I also agree that the case looks like it is from a later model as the "original" case on all of the 1537s I have seen is brown.

Very odd....what do you suppose, some one off highly collectible prize, or one that has been refurbed with incorrect parts. I thought for sure you 1537 lovers would have the answer to this oddity.
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Norseman1
Posted 2005-12-14 11:50 AM (#332122 - in reply to #332107)
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My guess is it was refurbished, and the spacer was used to perhaps correct imperfections or misalignment with the bowl and soundboard (like perhaps some warping or damage to face and original binding?).

Just an uneducated guess. Either way, nice guitar!
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JeffreyD
Posted 2005-12-14 3:06 PM (#332123 - in reply to #332107)
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The more I compare it to my 1537, the more differences I see too (suggesting a refurb). The actual binding looks different to me too. Lighter in color or something.

Hope someone snags it here then gets the story on it.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-12-14 3:57 PM (#332124 - in reply to #332107)
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Look close at the top. It looks like there's a repaired crack where the two halves of the top meet, below the bridge.

That red spacer is not from the factory.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-12-14 6:20 PM (#332125 - in reply to #332107)
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Maybe it's some kind of trim tape, and not a spacer at all. Though why they would do that is beyond me, unless it's hiding something, like a top separation.
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Bluebird
Posted 2005-12-14 7:09 PM (#332126 - in reply to #332107)
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Has anyone asked him about it?

Wayne
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Bluebird
Posted 2005-12-14 7:16 PM (#332127 - in reply to #332107)
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These being considered the "wood top Adamas", could it be that the extra red binding was a spacer the approximate the depth of the carbon-topped Adamii? It is an early one, after all.

Just a thought.

Wayne
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-14 7:34 PM (#332128 - in reply to #332107)
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I have # 301004 which, per Paul's information, makes it a pre-production.

No red binding/spacer...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-14 7:46 PM (#332129 - in reply to #332107)
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No 1537 that I've ever seen has that red spacer. 1537's had a standard deep bowl depth. I've got no idea what that red strip is.
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bvince
Posted 2005-12-15 7:53 AM (#332130 - in reply to #332107)
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Here's just another thought (I really have no real knowledge about it either)... I was told by Kim that the walnut binding was a very difficult thing to accomplish, and that is probably why they stopped doing it. With that in mind .. if it was sent in for top repair, and they didn't want to mess with attempting to re-bind with that original walnut, perhaps they cut it off and re-attached it using the red binding to cover the edge? I know, it's probably a dumb idea, but it's almost as good as the "coveted 2-Monday issue idea:)"
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Norseman1
Posted 2005-12-15 12:13 PM (#332131 - in reply to #332107)
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Hey, I had that 2 Monday thing on good authority! I saw it on the Antiques Road Show!!!

Norse(never doubt what you hear on TV)man1
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-15 1:50 PM (#332132 - in reply to #332107)
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It's an early one if the bowl is original, because it doesn't have the battery screw. Mine came in an old, beat up case that is black, but I don't know if it was original. If it wasn't, somebody sure beat the hell out of a new one. The red stripe appears to be anyone's guess. Bowl replaced?
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