1987 collectors elite - spring cleaning
dead mockingbird
Posted 2006-05-05 10:20 PM (#328534)
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I have way too many guitars not being played so it's spring cleaning time. This 1987 #606 was hardly ever used. I have all the original papers including the original receipt (I'm the second owner but the receipt shows $1800 for the guitar and with tax the total was $1915). It was never registered. Signs of use are few. It looks new. There is one bummer, a crack in the finish near the cut away. it's only in the gloss and not the wood. Many have told me this guitar has a very similar tone to the 1537. It sounds really nice and it plays really, really nice ;)
So to sum it up, the only flaw is the crack in the finish (3 inches) otherwise it looks brand new.
comes with the original case in super shape. $800 + shipping.

email for pictures.
deadmockingbirds@gmail.com

-mike
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-05 10:53 PM (#328535 - in reply to #328534)
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That's a nice deal for somebody. Very similar guitar to the Book Elite. Dave
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-05 11:37 PM (#328536 - in reply to #328534)
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Hmm. Daughter's 19th birthday is May 15...suppose I could get it "for her" and then just keep it here when she goes back to school next year.
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TWA
Posted 2006-05-05 11:41 PM (#328537 - in reply to #328534)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Hmm. Daughter's 19th birthday is May 15...suppose I could get it "for her" and then just keep it here when she goes back to school next year.
My birthday's May 12...
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tdeej
Posted 2006-05-06 12:13 AM (#328538 - in reply to #328534)
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Sounds like a great plan, Mark. Be a nice compliment to the 1537.

TWA, my oldest son's birthday is on the 12th too. Happy Birthday.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-06 12:56 AM (#328539 - in reply to #328534)
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I bet TWA wasn't born in 1987, though. I guess I should figure out when the dog and cat were born, too and get Ovations to commemorate their birthdays.
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dead mockingbird
Posted 2006-05-06 1:59 AM (#328540 - in reply to #328534)
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I happen to have a perfect one for the dog...make you a deal.
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TWA
Posted 2006-05-06 9:17 PM (#328541 - in reply to #328534)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I bet TWA wasn't born in 1987, though. I guess I should figure out when the dog and cat were born, too and get Ovations to commemorate their birthdays.
Mark, you're right. I wasn't born in '87 and am not going back to school...oh well, congrat's to your daughter. And tdeej, thanks and congrat's to your son.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-06 11:45 PM (#328542 - in reply to #328534)
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So has anyone jumped on this? If I didn't already have the BE, I'd be all over it.

Dave
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dead mockingbird
Posted 2006-05-06 11:53 PM (#328543 - in reply to #328534)
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no, not yet. but the 1616 may be going to spain.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-07 6:57 PM (#328544 - in reply to #328534)
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Aargh!! This one and the cracked blue Adamas and Gregory's Ute. No wonder I can't sleep nights.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-05-07 7:35 PM (#328545 - in reply to #328534)
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Dave, you should get this one and sell the BE.... the BE, due to the epaulets that point out instead of in, doesn't have as good a sound....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-07 10:33 PM (#328546 - in reply to #328534)
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OK, I got outbid on the blue Adamas, now I have to decide between this one and Gregory's Ute, factoring in how pissed SWMBO will be at either. It has been 3 months since I bought a guitar for myself. OK, since I bought 2 guitars for myself.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-05-08 12:39 AM (#328547 - in reply to #328534)
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Can't go wrong with either one. TOugh choice since the UTE is one of the best sounding adamas and the '87 collectors is one of the top wood tops.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-08 12:43 AM (#328548 - in reply to #328534)
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I know. I'm trying to figure out which is least likely to become available again in the future. I'm thinking the Ute, just because there were fewer made. Both have been on my short list, but I only developed a list in the last year and it keeps getting longer instead of shorter.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-05-08 12:53 AM (#328549 - in reply to #328534)
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I think the UTE will be more difficult to find in the future but the price for the '87 is EXCELLENT. I paid quite a bit more than the asking price for mine and have not regretted it or had buyer's remorse for one second.

Was an asking price ever determined for the UTE?
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stephent28
Posted 2006-05-08 12:55 AM (#328550 - in reply to #328534)
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Mark, just noticed that you don't have an Adamas. I think you should buy both and never look back. These are some of Ovations finest.

It is the OFC....have one shipped to Dave until the dust settles and then have him ship it out.

A great opportunity.
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dead mockingbird
Posted 2006-05-08 2:14 AM (#328551 - in reply to #328534)
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okay, i'm home now (11pm sunday night)...long day. i'll email pictures to those that requested first thing in the morning. if any one cares, the 1616 sold to a guy in spain. i think it's kinda cool to imagine the ovation's journey to it's new owner across the atlantic. --yeah, i like these guitars a bit too much--
adios,
-m
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-08 10:53 AM (#328552 - in reply to #328534)
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Stephen, I agree with you entirely. I tried to buy the cracked blue 1681 last night, but fortunately got outsniped. I can find a nicer one of those if I ever get a little breathing room between my other items on the must have list. The 87 and Ute are both on the short list. I keep promising (by my silence) to stop buying guitars for awhile, but then something else on the short list comes up. I also want a deep bowl Custom Legend.
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dead mockingbird
Posted 2006-05-08 1:15 PM (#328553 - in reply to #328534)
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the pictures are off. if they are not in your inbox please contact me again, i either missed you or i'm not using iphoto correctly. there should be 11 photos.
thanks for all the interest,
-m
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Mitchrx
Posted 2006-05-08 1:42 PM (#328554 - in reply to #328534)
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Mark:
Since you already have a very nice 1537, the Ute would make a better addition to your collection.

If you really got to have both and you want to keep peace with SWMBO, perhaps you should consider selling the Custom Balladeer and Matrix to get some cash and to make room on the wall for the new O's.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-08 2:09 PM (#328555 - in reply to #328534)
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Thanks, Mitch. My "logic" is this: (I'm sure you appreciate that this is not very lawyerlike) my daughters were born in 83 and 87, two of the best years for Ovation, in my opinion. I would like to have one for each eventually.
The Custom Balladeer was cheap and is my only shallow bowl, so it's my primary travel guitar. The Matrix was my first Ovation, bought by my soon to be wife and me so that I could play it in our wedding. It needs to stay even if my wife doesn't care about it's sentimental value. Both of them won't bring in half what the 87 costs. So I'm just doomed to keep acquiring. I also have more wall space available if my wife doesn't force us to downsize.
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gh1
Posted 2006-05-08 6:16 PM (#328556 - in reply to #328534)
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So Mark, are you going to buy this guitar? If i hadn't just bought Stephen's 1537, i would be all over this. Maybe next month?

Outside of Connecticut the NW is going to become the center of gravity for O's -- well, maybe.

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-08 7:13 PM (#328557 - in reply to #328534)
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I'm trying to do my part. Besides me, I've got 2 daughters with Ovations (if you count a Celebrity Deluxe and an Applause) and 2 friends that I've talked into buying 3 Ovations. Actually I didn't have to do much talking, they just came over to the house.
This group is like the audience on a game show, cheering someone on to spend someone else's money. I'd love to buy the 87 and the Ute, but haven't seen pictures of either and doubt I can get both or maybe neither right now. If we ever get a Northwest OFC jam put together and it's at our cabin, I'll try to bring the whole herd. I'm going to be in Portland over Memorial Day, but I have to haul a van load of my daughter's stuff back.
Link up with Waskel and let him play that 1537, so he sees what we're talking about.
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dead mockingbird
Posted 2006-05-08 8:25 PM (#328558 - in reply to #328534)
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Mark-
I sent off those pictures this morning. they did not make it?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-08 9:55 PM (#328559 - in reply to #328534)
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I got them. They went to my home and my wife usually forwards them to work, but she just saved them for me this time. It looks very nice. I'm really tempted.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-09 3:08 PM (#328560 - in reply to #328534)
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I caved into the temptation once again. I just emailed that I will take it. The Ute will have to wait. SWMBO approved without a fight. This will cost me about $30,000, including the Honda Pilot for Mother's day that goes with it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-05-09 3:24 PM (#328561 - in reply to #328534)
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Man, that's an expensive 87 C......
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-09 3:36 PM (#328562 - in reply to #328534)
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Yup. Could've saved about 8K by going with a CRV instead.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-09 3:44 PM (#328563 - in reply to #328534)
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CRV is too small for us. Fortunately, she didn't like the Cayenne.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-05-09 3:54 PM (#328564 - in reply to #328534)
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Outside of Connecticut the NW is going to become the center of gravity for O's -- well, maybe.
Go for it...but it would take a major effort to close on SoCal :p :p :p
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-09 4:12 PM (#328565 - in reply to #328534)
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It may be impossible for all of us to catch Tony.
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Posted 2006-05-09 5:25 PM (#328566 - in reply to #328534)
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Congrats, Mark! Your wife has a shorter memory than mine. :)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-09 5:50 PM (#328567 - in reply to #328534)
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Buy her a new car and she'll forget your last car for a couple minutes. It's the stupid things you say that they never forget. 22 years ago I was travelling on Mother's Day and called my wife to ask if she sent anything to my mother. She was sitting home with a brand new baby and started crying because I didn't think about her for Mother's Day. Of course, I said, "You're not my mother." She repeated that story every mother's day for years. I didn't even remember saying it. All I remember is they gave us a nice meal on the airplane.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-09 6:16 PM (#328568 - in reply to #328534)
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That's the beauty of Mother's Day and Father's day. We get to pay for them both.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-09 7:24 PM (#328569 - in reply to #328534)
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If I can get the 87 on my nickel for Father's Day, instead of a tie, soap on a rope, or another golf shirt on their nickel, I'll take it every time.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-05-09 8:01 PM (#328570 - in reply to #328534)
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It may be impossible for all of us to catch Tony.
Naw, I think they are running out of flavors...I'll be letting go of a two of 1687's (have four), probably the 1681 Serge used on his new CD, a 1719-30CM (have three), a Custom Elite, '76 Patriot (have two), Country Artist (have two), and maybe a couple of others. Maybe even the Millennium, Typhoon, and the '97 Collectors. At least over the next several years.

No hurry, price keeps going up ;)
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Posted 2006-05-09 8:09 PM (#328571 - in reply to #328534)
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You're a cold, cold man, Tony.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-09 9:33 PM (#328572 - in reply to #328534)
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Wait awhile to get rid of the Adamii, Tony, so I can pace myself.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-05-09 10:46 PM (#328573 - in reply to #328534)
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Mark,

No problem, I think that was why I was tagged as an adoption agency.

And, if anyone hasn't checked out LostArt/Vintage Instruments (Al's site), be prepared for a GAS attack.

It is so hard to sell or trade a guitar once I have it. Hate to have a guitar in a case...needs to be on the wall or on a stand. That way, they are part of the family. Even if you don't play it often, there is a time when you pick it up and don't put it down for several hours. That's the way it is with the two shiny bowls or the 68-69 1127 that I have. By the way, if you like the 1127/1627, try a very early model...mine is (IMHO) 40% better than the several 1127's I played that were made in the 70's.
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Posted 2006-05-09 11:22 PM (#328574 - in reply to #328534)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Buy her a new car and she'll forget your last car for a couple minutes. It's the stupid things you say that they never forget. 22 years ago I was travelling on Mother's Day and called my wife to ask if she sent anything to my mother. She was sitting home with a brand new baby and started crying because I didn't think about her for Mother's Day. Of course, I said, "You're not my mother." She repeated that story every mother's day for years. I didn't even remember saying it. All I remember is they gave us a nice meal on the airplane.
Oooo...ouch.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-10 12:08 AM (#328575 - in reply to #328534)
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I can't count the number of guys who have beat me to the "she's not your mother" line before I did. Venus and Mars thing. I don't have a clue whether she bought me anything for the next Father's Day.
I do remember that on our second daughter's birthday I tried to grab a couple hours sleep and showed up for a golf tournament. Played pretty well. The high wore off that afternoon.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-16 3:18 PM (#328576 - in reply to #328534)
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It finally arrived! FedEx seems a little slow. Sat in Salt Lack since Saturday morning. Anyway, my daughter unpacked it and says it looks and sounds beautiful. I'll have to sneak home early and play it a bit. Have to leave town tonight. Thanks, Mike.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-16 8:10 PM (#328577 - in reply to #328534)
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OK, I realize that I am the only one still posting on this thread, but I didn't want to start a new one. The 87 is a gorgeous instrument. It definitely ranks up there with my 1537. I has more bass boom than the 1537, but that can be explained by the 1919s on it vs the 1717s? on the 1537, that I haven't changed in 6 months. The 87 has way more bling. It is my first with abalone and there's plenty of it. The neck is a satin finish, which surprised me. Somewhere in between the gloss of the 1537 and the neck on the 99. The action is higher than the 1537, so I'll try some 1818s and take out a shim.
Even the case was almost perfect, with the original hang tags and receipt. Even Bill's smiling face in the booklet that came with it. Someday I'll try Tony's crack repair and try to take out the only blemish in an otherwise perfect guitar.
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Posted 2006-05-16 8:58 PM (#328578 - in reply to #328534)
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Mark, glad you like the guitar. I've really enjoyed mine. Last week, I borrowed an Adamas I RI from Tony and have been playing them, back and forth. To be honest, I prefer the sound of the 87.

The 87 Collectors is widely regarded as one of the best guitars ever built by Ovation.

Mine also has more bass than my 1537. Part of that can be explained by the fewer treble side sound holes. When you don't have them, or you plug up the ones there, the bass gets much more prominent.

I've never seen the owners booklet that comes with it. Could you possibly either scan or copy it for me? I'd really appreciate it, and would stop making lawyer jokes at least for a couple of weeks.
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Posted 2006-05-16 9:42 PM (#328579 - in reply to #328534)
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Last week, I borrowed an Adamas I RI from Tony and have been playing them, back and forth. To be honest, I prefer the sound of the 87.
oh, great...just hurt her (1687 Reissue) feelings. So, she doesn't have abalone, the fragility of a wood top, aging of 19 years...fortunately, she has a place of honor and respect down here :p
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Posted 2006-05-17 1:19 AM (#328580 - in reply to #328534)
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Mark,
It's nice to know you'll enjoy the guitar!
Thanks again for buying it and sending the check right away.
Take it easy,
-Mike
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-21 9:44 PM (#328581 - in reply to #328534)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I've never seen the owners booklet that comes with it. Could you possibly either scan or copy it for me? I'd really appreciate it, and would stop making lawyer jokes at least for a couple of weeks.
I haven't forgotten. I was out of town the 17th and 20th and parts of 16, 19 and today, when I wasn't playing golf. It's been rough. I also have the Collector's booklet that came with it, do you have one of those? Our scanner is busted, so I could fax it or photocopy it and send it to you. Any preference?
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Posted 2006-05-21 10:36 PM (#328582 - in reply to #328534)
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Mark, I don't have anything on the 87, so anything you can provide would be great. My email address is moody.pi@cox.net. Send me an email and I'll shoot you my fax number.

Thank you very much.
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