Contour Cutaway 12 fret update
TexasDoc
Posted 2006-05-27 1:23 AM (#327861)
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I've finally decided to make a custom order. So to make funds available, I'm selling these two.

First is the John Lennon Limited. This is an FRG that I got from Al, and I cannot find any defects. Includes OHSC. $950 includes shipping.

Second is a Hamer Artist Korrina I picked up locally about 6 months ago. Mild wear, but looks great, plays well. P90s.

I'll try to get photos up, but it wont be until at least Sunday. If there is no interest, I'll put them on Ebay.
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alpep
Posted 2006-05-27 12:41 PM (#327862 - in reply to #327861)
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contact me re the hamer
thanks
al
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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-27 1:12 PM (#327863 - in reply to #327861)
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I watched the Hamer DVD that we got in our OFC Goody bags last night! That and seeing/hearing some of the ones played at Stonge's house made me appreciate the Hamer effort even more.

I sure wish I knew how to play!
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-05-28 11:15 AM (#327864 - in reply to #327861)
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Hey Tom, I might be interested in the Hammer...give me a call!

Greg
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-28 12:37 PM (#327865 - in reply to #327861)
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You won't have any trouble selling the John Lennon. There's nothing that can touch it for $1000. Dave
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-05-28 2:52 PM (#327866 - in reply to #327861)
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Here's a photo of the Hamer.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-05-28 2:55 PM (#327867 - in reply to #327861)
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What are you going to have custom built?
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-05-28 3:39 PM (#327868 - in reply to #327861)
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Thinking of a UTE with a cutaway, contour bowl.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-28 4:01 PM (#327869 - in reply to #327861)
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THAT will be a nice guitar. Dave
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-05-28 5:45 PM (#327870 - in reply to #327861)
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Originally posted by ttenn:
Thinking of a UTE with a cutaway, contour bowl.
Ooooo....niiice!....
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cliff
Posted 2006-05-29 11:07 AM (#327871 - in reply to #327861)
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While walking through the Factory last week, I thought that THIS might be cool for Shits&Giggles:

EliteT with a ContourBowl, but instead of the usual black BowlPaint, do it with the BowlPaint used on the SlotHeads(or 47RI's) - black with little tiny "flecks" of gold/red glitter in it . . .
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Designzilla
Posted 2006-05-29 11:20 AM (#327872 - in reply to #327861)
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UTE with a cutaway and a contour bowl! Now THAT is a great idea. That would definitely be worth a little sacrifical herd thinning.

I would love to help the cause and grab the JL3, but my GAS fund is still drastically underfunded.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-05-29 12:16 PM (#327873 - in reply to #327861)
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Ttenn, if the factory will agree to build 12 fret slotheads on contour bowls (with wood or adamas tops), this will open up a whole new round of GAS attacks from my direction! Keep us posted.

Dave
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-05-31 11:00 PM (#327874 - in reply to #327861)
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Hamer is spoken for. JL3 is still available.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-05-31 11:38 PM (#327875 - in reply to #327861)
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Originally posted by ttenn:
Thinking of a UTE with a cutaway, contour bowl.
I'm terrible at Photoshop, but this is what I ordered, contour bowl, of course. Let's see what happens.

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MWoody
Posted 2006-05-31 11:48 PM (#327876 - in reply to #327861)
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She's beautiful!


Now keep the bridge and bracing and refret a 14'er to longneck scale and I'm in trouble!

DEEP trouble! :eek:
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-06-01 1:15 AM (#327877 - in reply to #327861)
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Nice idea. Will be interesting to see how this sounds compared to the U681. Personally I think it will be great. The single side epaulet should really bring out the bass even more than the original. A few people who don't like the U681 claim that it is too boomy in the bass, but it's all just personal preference. Dave
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-06-01 2:21 AM (#327878 - in reply to #327861)
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I'm gonna try it. I love the UTE, but never pulled the trigger because it was a non-cutaway.

I have had a few Elite-style guitars. The biggest problem with them is that when you get the action low and put on light strings, the tone dies. Like Jacob Marley, it is dead as a door-nail. I need medium strings and a higher saddle/action to make them sound full.

The problem with the Legend-style is basically the opposite. Full mids, muddled highs, still not very good bass response. Better than the elite style with light strings, but to get the best sound, you need mediums.

The Adamas, especially the Millenium with Elixirs ALMOST sounds perfect *to me*. The Adamas 1681 that I had was excellent in the bass response, but I prefer a cut-away and the Adamas-deep bowl made it hard to play. I always felt like I was reaching around it.

What I'm hoping is that this will be the Adamas that will tolerate a low action and light strings but still deliver on the bass response without clouding the highs.

Or, It may just look cool and sound like crap??!!??
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-06-01 9:44 PM (#327879 - in reply to #327861)
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If this guitar sounds anything like the 2080 I just got in...WOW!

LOTS of talk about your CU681TDCC-5 :)
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-06-01 11:55 PM (#327880 - in reply to #327861)
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Originally posted by GregoryS:
LOTS of talk about your CU681TDCC-5 :)
Actually, since Ovation uses the second digit of '5' to indicate a cutaway, it would be a CU581T-5, right? Don't know what the DCC stands for.

Since the U681T is nicknamed the UTE, I hereby dub thee CCUTE.

Um... nevermind.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-06-02 12:50 AM (#327881 - in reply to #327861)
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Nope, You said it!! It's gonna stick!! :D :p :D :p
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-06-02 1:21 AM (#327882 - in reply to #327861)
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phonetically - cootie
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-06-02 1:44 AM (#327883 - in reply to #327861)
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!! :D :p :D :p
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-06-02 7:49 AM (#327884 - in reply to #327861)
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DCC- Deep Contour Cutaway...

Figured the model number beeded to be as long as posiable :)

I past that picture on to Mark at Ovation so that they would know exactly what it is you were shooting for :)
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-06-11 7:27 PM (#327885 - in reply to #327861)
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I'm changing the topic of this thread to contour cutaway 12 fret because the original topic is dead. Hamer is sold. Zero bites on the JL3 (guess I'll just keep it - it does have a beautiful sound).


Originally posted by Tupperware:
Ttenn, if the factory will agree to build 12 fret slotheads on contour bowls (with wood or adamas tops), this will open up a whole new round of GAS attacks from my direction! Keep us posted.

Dave
In the spirit of keeping you posted....

Got a call that the factory cannot build a 12-fret cutaway. Something about a problem with the bracing of the 12-fret neck attaching to the bowl??? I complained that when I was at the tour, I specifically asked if they would make a 12-fret cutaway if I ordered it. There were even a few members that had them (Templeman, for one). I asked my dealer to call them back and 1)complain, 2)tell them about the conversation I had with them on the tour, and 3)if they couldn't put it on a contour bowl make it a medium round bowl (didn't like the Adamas deep due to size) because I KNOW they can do that (again referencing Templeman).

Anyway, the dealer called back and said that the problem was with the contour bowl. They haven't figured/designed a 12-fret neck to attach to the contour bowl...yet. I was told that they are gonna work on it and let me know.

I haven't been told if they are gonna build mine with a contour or round bowl, I have faith and am inferring from the above message that they haven't yet produced a contour cutaway 12 fret, but are currently in the design stages. Hopefully it will be a short process and we will have the ability to order 12 fret contours.

Will "Keep you posted".
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-06-11 8:29 PM (#327886 - in reply to #327861)
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I tried to order a 1773-LX Classical with a Contour Bowl and ran into the same problem. 12 Fret and Contour Bowl don't mix. I have a hard time understanding why, but I don't build 'em I just buys 'em.

The 1773-LX Classical as it is, is a 12-fret cutaway with mid or deep bowl (I forget), so that works. Maybe your guitar as spec'd but with the mid depth bowl would be the best way to go. It'll still be a killer of a guitar.

Dave
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schroeder
Posted 2006-06-12 7:18 PM (#327887 - in reply to #327861)
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I may be in a minority of one (wouldn't be the first time - I think Carlos Santana/Joe Satriani/Steve Vai all suck more than Linda Lovelace) but I think the mid-bowl is better sounding, more comfortable and easier to hold than the contour bowl.

With all of jeff's great guitars to choose from (and I never played ANYTHING that sounded better than the Lowden), and all the great guitars at the Tour, the one I chose to play was the old Folklore - wide neck, mid bowl. Just perfect.

So if you "only" get a Ute cutaway with a mid bowl Tom - be happy. And believe me - if you don't like it, I'll buy it.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-06-12 7:25 PM (#327888 - in reply to #327861)
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I disagree about the bowl (just personal preference), but I completely agree about Jeff's Lowden guitar. To me that was the best sounding guitar at the tour, along with the 47RI. Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-06-12 7:54 PM (#327889 - in reply to #327861)
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I've got my order in for a custom Adamas 12fret-cutaway, Midbowl. I went with the mid bowl because, I wanted a slightly more bright/treble weighted guitar...but with the cutaway and treble side holes, my guess is it will sound much like the Ute with only a subtle difference in range/volume.

....for the record and forgive my immodesty, I have to agree with Dave and Schroeder, the Lowden is truely an amazing sounding instrument. Frankly, I can't believe I own it.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-06-13 5:22 AM (#327890 - in reply to #327861)
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"Frankly, I can't believe I own it."

Frankly, neither can the Lowden.
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-06-13 8:19 AM (#327891 - in reply to #327861)
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Tom.... you are blazing the trail for many of us. If the "guitar that we cannot name" is not what I'm looking for a contour bowl 12 fret slothead just might be!
I hope you are able to get the first one off the line!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-06-13 9:19 AM (#327892 - in reply to #327861)
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I'm the one to whom Dave alluded to earlier in this thread. I think the Ute has too much bass. And that is subjective and just my personal opinion.

I tend to think that a contour bowl 12 fret cutaway Ute with no treble soundholes would have way too much bass. Too much for what? Well, me. Probably not for others.

But a 12 fret cutaway Ute with no treble soundholes and a mid depth bowl would probably sound great! My guess (and it's only a guess --- the reality could be very different) is that it would have great balance and be very comfortable to play.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-06-13 11:20 AM (#327893 - in reply to #327861)
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I agree with Schroeder about something! I had to go back and look what it was, but I like the sound and feel of my plain old Folklore (not FD14). Maybe that wasn't what Schroeder was trying to say. If so, I don't agree with him on anything.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-06-13 6:10 PM (#327894 - in reply to #327861)
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We agree.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-06-13 10:26 PM (#327895 - in reply to #327861)
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No you don't.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-07-13 12:07 PM (#327896 - in reply to #327861)
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Just got the news. They were not able to get the bracing problem figured out. So, it is gonna be a mid-bowl. In production currently. Should have it in 2 weeks (give or take).
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