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Location: Chicago area | I just found you guys, what a great forum.
I am seeking an Ovation for use with my chuch band. I already have a acc/elec Takamine dreadnought and a electric (strat) but looking for something more stage friendly that will cover most praise-type songs.
Requirements:
- Budget of $600 shipped incl. hard case
- Like wood (not painted) neck
- Prefer inlay shape over dots
- Prefer naturual color wood over paint/stain
- Prefer wood leaf-shaped "epaulets" over center hole
- Prefer cutaway
- Prefer thin body
- Electronics/pickup are key as this is stage guitar
Let me know if anyone has something that would work for me.
thanks,
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Location: Upper Left USA | Welcome Ken!
Good choices and that's a good price range. Have you searched the recent "For Sale" posts? |
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| Welcome to the club. Check out ebay item#330013368059. It's a shallow bowl Elite. There is also a beautiful deep bowl cedar-top Elite at a very good 'buy-it-now' price, ebay item#130013441666. There may also be OFC members who have an instrument you would like.
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | If you want the super shallow bowl, the Elite is the way to go (Hey! I should be writing songs!)
I recently purchased one for a girl I know who's starting a church with her husband in Iowa City. I was able to get it for $400, and it was a very nice instrument, plays and sounds incredible for having the super shallow bowl. They have been averaging around $500 and since most people seem to prefer a deeper bowl, there tends to be less competition on sales. Note: All this applies ONLY if you are going to play plugged in. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Here's One ... Ebay Listing |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | OOOOH! Here's an even NICER one. But it's not a shallow bowl. Great opportunity for someone!
Ebay Listing |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Soryy ... I couldn't let the last one get by.
Here's another super shallow with a buy it now under your $600 mark. This one appears to be in great shape and has the case with it.
Ebay Item |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | If you like the Elite T models, here's a steal on a nice pewter one ... (mid bowl)
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Whoa...Ken Smith. Good friend of mine (pastor and band member of mine too) from years back was a country artist turned Christian named Ken Smith and he is the one who turned me on to Ovations.
But he is in Couer d'Alene, ID.....
As the others have noted, your $600 budget will buy you pretty much whatever you want in the Ovation category. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Timing, patience and a close watch on Ebay and this board. |
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Location: Lawrenceville, Ga. | Hi Ken
Not an Elite, but I have a 4 month old Balladeer 1868LX with OP Pro electronics and case. $600 shipped to you in the OHSC, and I'll include a strap with Dunlop straplocks on it to boot. Cherry Cherry Burst, not Natural, but very pretty and a great guitar. Posted here below in the ads, but the Ebay auction is long finished. Pics on request. Good luck in your search. |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | Hi, Ken;
Welcome to the club. "Bluecrabboy" has (had?) an Elite for sale, down about 12 posts after this. If it's not gone, it might be worth looking into. I have a shallow LX that I really like, and I run it through our system to lead worship if Robbie needs a back-up(He's known as "worshipleader" here--away in Mexico on a missions trip; you'll have a chance to meet him on the board, I'm sure.) Mine sounds really good that way; if you do get a shallow body, you won't be sorry.
Blessings, Karen
The stringed menagerie: Gertrude, Jewel, Blanca, "Nonnie," Sugar, Plink, Twang and Shriek |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Oh My..... Jewel's Mom is a BANKER???!!!???
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Although I will shamelessly plug my "worhipfully broken in" W597 that will be going on the block when my 2080 arrives next week. But it will probably be a bit higher than your budget at $900. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Ken, welcome. check your Private Messages |
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Location: Chicago area | Wow, you guys are awesome! I posted this, and figured it would take a few days to get some response. Can't believe I have 18 replys already. Some with great links (and looks like bvince had to even jump on one of them ;-) . Good advice from Woody to be on lookout and patient. I have had two GREAT offers already and I am getting close. I sure would like to play a shallow bowl, but there are none in stores around me. I am curious how much difference in sound there is. Also I have heard that due to the round back of the Ovation bowl, the guitar moves around alot while standing and playing with a strap, potentially forcing you to readjust with your fretting wrist. Is there truth to that? Is is better with the shallow bowl? I know that the o-bowls tend to slide on leg when sitting down...but this one is mainly for stage work.
Thanks for all the links and I will keep looking and being patient ;-)
peace and grace...Ken |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | I have adapted very well to both a deep and mid bowl and would imagine that a shallow bowl would be even less of an issue.
I find the only adjustments I have to make are while I am sitting, although from time to time (depending on how much pizza I ate the night before) I may have to pull the guitar around my round belly a bit, but it does not demand an adjustment on the fretboard.
I would bet that the shallow back is probably more like playing an electric. I find round backs much more comfortable than box guitars.
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Ken,
Welcome. I have all three depths now, and have owned three O's with the shallow bowl, and I can still say that it is by far my favorite to play on stage. Plugged in, you won't notice a difference in sound if your preamp is working correctly, and I have NEVER had a problem with "slipping" on the guitar. (it's plastic, not linoleum!) :D
Most of the time, if someone offers a negative to the roundbacks of Ovation, it's usually a Martin player or someone who has no love lost for Ovations anyway...
Leading worship, if you play agressively (i.e. mostly NOT fingerstyle) and you're not as worried about unplugged sound, go with a shallow. My 1881 Adamas II shallow is always my first choice for stage stuff.
The trick to good sound in a shallow is to find a USA-made Ovation. The ones bvince pulled up are all good. The guitars you're looking at will still sound good unplugged - they're just not quite as rich and deep as the larger bowls. Personally, I'd go for an 1868 or one of the 1778T (mid-bowl) models - they are REALLY cool! You do see the 1868 shallow in the Elite T from time to time, but they are more rare. First choice is an Adamas, but in the range you're looking at go with an Elite or Custom Legend shallow.
Here's a couple more to check:
late 80\'s - early 90\'s 1868
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | I have been playing a shallow bowl #1869 Custom Legend for several years in my worship band, and a shallow bowl #1897 Legend for years before that with no problems involving the shifting/moving of the guitar. |
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Location: San Angelo, Texas | I play a 1777LX mid-depth bowl, and I have a round belly...and no issues with it moving around. I also play an 1886 12 sdtring that is a shallow bowl, and going back and forth between them I notice no difference in the way they move around, though unplugged the shallow bowls loose a lot of sound. |
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Location: Hayes, Virginia | I think the whole it “rolls around on me”, “I can’t keep it on my lap” arguments are primarily mouthed by box guitar fanatics who would never touch a Ovation except to deride it.
As someone who just switched from a shallow bowl to a mid-depth there is a bit of a change in the feel and playing position when standing. It took me an hour or so to get the feel for the deeper bowl and different balance point, but now there is no problem going back and forth between the depths.
;) Shameless marketing plug: My super shallow 6686 is for sale. Ken I sent you a private message.
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Location: Upper Left USA | The roll comes from the bad habit of laying too much forearm weight on the upper bout. |
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Location: CT | I have all 3 depths, and don't even notice any movement. I'm too wrapped up in all the new chords I'm inventing as I play. I actually managed to play an H#maj. the other day! :confused: |
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Location: Keller, TX | When you get to an L#min dim 9th sharp, let me know! |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Hey tten, I have the L# min (it's up around the 26th fret I think), but can you have a # and a sharp???? That one is quite new to me. |
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Location: Chicago area | thank you all for sharing your very generous insight, information and feedback, but I am looking no longer.
I just ordered my first Ovation (LX Elite 6778LX-newengland burst), and will be blessed to have such a fine instrument for my praise work. More on that story on another thread....
I also think I will have a happy home here on the OFC !!! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | You'll love the LX! They are real tools.
As for the OFc, we always have an opinion! |
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Location: NJ | . . and some of the people in the OFC are real "tools" as well . . . |
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Location: GA USA | Ken, in addition to being the best guitar board around, the OFC is also the best P&W board. You'd be surprised how many worship leaders we have here.
I have a question... I thought your budget was $600. Did you score a new Elite 6778LX for that?
Stick around, and congrats on the new axe!
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Location: Chicago area | Jas,
Thanks for the warm welcome. I PMd you on the budget question...but the short answer is yes. Will explain later in a new thread.
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seeking Ovation for praise...