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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | Here is just a teaser. I am working out the final details and should have them for you tomorrow or the following day.
This will be the first Lost Art Vintage Limited Ovation.
koa
cutaway contour bowl.
12 fret
slothead
single oval sound hole on the bass bout
Yes this it is what you are thinking.
more details to follow when I get them.
IF interested e me. |
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Location: NJ | N-I-I-I-C-E!!!!!!!! |
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Location: SoCal | this is cruel...
guess I have to start saving my pennies :eek: :rolleyes: :D |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Well, I can think of one Wabbit that will be hopping on this (at least in spirit!) when he gets back from vacation next week!
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Aarrrgghh!!!
That's not even nice! I'd like to form the "Koa junkies anonymous club"...
"Yes, I'm a Koa junkie and I have a problem..." |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I believe I started a thread about this phenomena already!
What has Al made you do?...
Nice Hat trick there Pepiak! |
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Location: Paris/France | WONDERFUL!!!
J :) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Al, this Lost Art Vintage Limited Edition will be a killer of a guitar. Check your email and BOOK IT, DANO.
Dave |
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Location: Le Havre (France) | Very nice guitar !
What is its nutwidth ? |
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Location: NJ | Does it come in black?? |
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Location: Scotland | Yeah, good idea Cliff, let's get some bowl paint over that Koa. |
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Location: NJ | Seriously tho' Al;
NICE guitar and HatsOff to you for making it happen.
The only "suggestion(s)" I might have would be to put a black saddle on it
and have all the labels signed by Darren. |
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Location: CT | You want to paint that nice koa black? |
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Location: NJ | joke.
(oy!) :rolleyes: |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | E-mail sent, Al. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Did anybody (witko/jeff/waskel/etc....) compare the sound of this guitar (that John is holding in the pic)with the #47RI?
Also, since the soundholes are similar, how this one sounds vs the 2080?
I know listening conditions weren't optimal but I am sure this gang somehow formed an opinion. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | To steal a quote from Brad:
Apples & Oranges.
If anything, it's close to the '06 Collectors with a bit more "oomph" (12-fret). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Opinions Cliff....not analogies!
(Cliff..sneaky edit you bastich!) |
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Location: NJ | Okay. . . . the 47RI sounds "more gooder" . . . |
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Location: NJ | I'm really glad these are being done.
These are the guitars that Ovation SHOULD have been making . . . |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Now that's techno talk I can understand. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | t, I have played all three. 47-ri is in a sound class all its own. the 2080 is actually a close second to 47ri. clear toned, very rich sounding, full tone, not as bassy as the 1581RI, but it has a deep even sound. The koa limited as I remember was a mini cannon. as close to an adamas as an ovation can get. of course you gotta take this all with a grain of salt (and a lime and a shot).
if you have heard/played the koa collectors-you will doubly lo9ve the koa lost art limited (KLAL) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Thanks Mike...that helps a lot when it comes to deciding if the money needs to go for one of the last 47RIs or the KLAL.
Since the humidity here is so horrible on the wood tops, I tend to sway more towards the Adamas line anyway....but damn that Koa looks pretty! |
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Location: Thailand | Thanks for your information, fugot
I would like to know about that!
povation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | I played the koa prototype long before anyone else. I also played one of the first 2080 prototypes and I sat there just smiling. I think the 2080 bridges the original adamas guitar with a modern day equivalent.
I have been trying to get this guitar built since I saw it and now it will come to fruition.
final specs on the way.
look for sequencial numbering
certificates
tortise binding
and a third input to pump in extra mojo. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Oooh!! . . . I love a ThirdInput! . . . |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by alpep:
and a third input to pump in extra mojo. I HATE TEASERS like that. Sounds damn interesting though. |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I already have a UTE....I just bought a UTE.
I just gotta keep tellin' myself. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Witko will tell ya what a third imput is. |
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Location: SoCal | If Cliff brings it up, it's gotta have something to do with sex..... |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Witko will tell ya what a third imput is. Lola didn't have a 3rd one. |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 6
Location: Texas | This is a guitar, that according to the FACTORY can not be built. It did, however, serve to show the true colors of Al and Miles, and that this board is NOT a fan club, it is the marketing arm of Al's little home business.... |
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Location: Tennessee | Hey Daylan ... you posted the message once (twice) already. Leave it at that. We get your point. Don't blow your credibility any further. |
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Location: SoCal | Daylan,
Not sure what the response to your multiple postings will be. It is appropriate to feel frustration over a long and difficult day.
For those reading this thread (and any others) - Miles had tried to resolve this off-board in an amiable and reasonable manner over a long period.
There is a response often used on the OFC...click! |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I appologize, I deleted his 2nd post when I only meant to edit it to say that it was a crosspost.
You can still read it in its entirety elsewhere on the site. |
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Location: SoCal | that's okay...even one has all of the email addresses.
guess I will have to check my spam blocker. |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126
Location: Omaha, NE | Al, that is one seriously cool looking axe. E-mail has been sent. |
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Location: ranson,wva | i bet its gonna look and sound great al..jason |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | Here are the final specs
Koa top
12 fret slothead neck
cutaway body
6080 type hole.
oh yeah it would be exactly like the 06 prototype that was not produced.
ebony fingerboard
neck width 1 3/4
schaller tuning machines
ebony buttons
tortoise shell binding
no fingerboard inlays
VIP pre amp (the VIP has been voiced for the koa guitar
high and low z outputs
sequential serial numbers
custom order certificate
Ovation hardshell case
I put in an initial order this morning but am waiting for a final count.
Thank you for your interest. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 1421
Location: Orange County, California | Can I get mine with 14 frets, 1 7/8" nut, two knobber preamp, carverd headstock and heel, carbon fiber top in original "-8" please? :p :D :p :D
J/K Al. I'm just joking... put down the claw hammer... it was supposed to be funny... I didn't mean it...
Seriously, great job getting this together. We (the OFC) cannot seem to agree on many things, but I know allot of us will love this guitar and though it should've been the '06 Koallectors edition. Now, I'm glad it wasn't. Any behind the scenes effort you took as a means to this end are OK with me.
"The Phone Call"
ring... ring...
AL: "Hello? Hey Ricky. Yeah I got it. Well I dunno. Are you gonna make it? I think it sounds like $4it (Al holds the phone out and strums a banjo behind him). No,no. Go ahead with the other one, it'll be OK. No. It's OK, stop crying now. It'll be fine. You don't have to pick it up, I'll dispose of it."
Click (Al hangs up the phone, fading evil laugh)
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 972
Location: PDX | Originally posted by alpep:
Here are the final specs
Koa top
12 fret slothead neck
cutaway body
..... Al, what depth is the body? I see in the first post it is a contour bowl -- do they come in more than one depth (seeing as this is a custom order)
Just curious.
TIA
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Location: NJ | there is only one size contour bowl. it is between a deep and mid but has the same internal characteristics of a deep bowl. |
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Location: SoCal | does it come as a 12-fret, 12-string :p :confused: :p |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| Nice Al.... Congrats ! So your true colors are KOA.... interesting.
Randy |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1116
Location: Keller, TX | I tried to order a custom 12 fret cutaway contour bowl and was told within the last 2 months by the factory it could not be done.
It appears they figured it out right after they told me no...
Also, I thought they said at the factory tour that they had used up all the Koa wood that they had. No more to be found. Whazzupwiddat? |
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Joined: June 2005 Posts: 274
Location: Maryland, USA | This is giving me insane GAS...
I definitely wish I had the money for one of these...
It would go perfectly with the D-18 ;)
The best of both worlds... |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by ttenn:
I tried to order a custom 12 fret cutaway contour bowl and was told within the last 2 months by the factory it could not be done.
Tom, I'm guessing and not trying to speak on behalf of the factory, but I "think" the issue with yours was that they could not do it with an adamas top. But they CAN do it with a wood LX type top. I mean, the proto EXISTS! So I would say that is proof positive that they can go it. I just phoned in my reservation.
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Location: Omaha, NE | Originally posted by Tupperware:
I just phoned in my reservation Me too! I'm anticipating a very merry Christmas this year!
Damn, I feel like a little kid thumbing through the Sears toy catalog. I keep going back to the picture of this guitar. Al, can you post some more pic's? I think we need another fix.
BTW...what will the inlay on the fingerboard say? |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1116
Location: Keller, TX | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Originally posted by ttenn:
I tried to order a custom 12 fret cutaway contour bowl and was told within the last 2 months by the factory it could not be done.
Tom, I'm guessing and not trying to speak on behalf of the factory, but I "think" the issue with yours was that they could not do it with an adamas top. But they CAN do it with a wood LX type top. I mean, the proto EXISTS! So I would say that is proof positive that they can go it. I just phoned in my reservation.
Dave That's what I'm thinking. Does anyone have a photo of how a UTE neck attaches to the body from the inside? Looking to see how a 12 fret Adamas attaches. Then I'll compare my contour 2006 and my Milllenium and make some inferences... you all know how well those turn out. |
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Location: Lebanon, TN | Yes more photos of the prototype pleae!!!! I need my 12 fret koa fix!!! |
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Location: Keller, TX | Not much help so far. But here is what I have.
2006 - LX Neck Wood Top - Neck attachment has three bolts. Two into the neck. One up into the fretboard. Remember on the tour they put a block on the bottom of the fretboard over the body then fastened this down to help hold the fretboard to the body. This is the third screw.
Millenium - K bar - Two screws and a third adjustment screw. Nothing holding the fretboad down. No holes in the top. Appears to have a floating type fretboard.
JL3 - NON CUTAWAY - Not sure if it applies. Two bolts holding the neck in place. Nothing attached to the fretboard. No holes in the neck. |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 286
Location: North Idaho | Should have seen the look on my wife's face when I told her I ordered the KLAP (Koa Limited Al Pep) model guitar. I'll be awhile living that down. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Not to sound too dumb... can someone tell me what GAS means? |
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Location: SoCal | no.... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by CrimsonLake:
Not to sound too dumb... can someone tell me what GAS means? Only because I used to live in Moorestown...
Guitar Acquisition Syndrom |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Moody...not nice!
Did your cornflakes get soggy this morning? |
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Location: California | Check your email and BOOK IT. A black saddle on it would look nice.
Hector |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Now I REALLY know what GAS means! |
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Location: Maryland, USA | Just wondering guys...
With the slothead, would this make a desirable classical guitar with nylon strings?
I know classical guitars normally have slot-heads...but from the picture it looked like this had steel strings? |
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Location: closely held secret | It did have steel strings, Stephen. But a nylon string version would probably be sweet, with 12 frets and the dark tone of the Koa. |
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Location: ms | I like it but i think most of us would like to see maybe a 12 fret slothead cutaway wide nut. I would buy this 07 if it had a 13/4 nut. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
It did have steel strings, Stephen. But a nylon string version would probably be sweet, with 12 frets and the dark tone of the Koa. Nylon strings would have a hard time driving a Koa top. Koa is a hardwood, it's difficult enough making a Koa top work with steel strings. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | It IS a 12 fret slothead cutaway 1-3/4 nut. That's why we're all lined up to buy one! Kudos to Al for coming up with this configuration as his Lost Art Vintage Special. Absolutely brillent.
Dave |
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Location: Keller, TX | It's "Brilliant" too! |
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Location: NJ | "Fookin' Brilliant!!" . . . |
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Location: ranson,wva | what he said...jason |
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Location: ms | I posted in the wrong place .I was talking about the 07 collectors. I`ll have to go back and read up on this KOA 12 fret sounds cool.. |
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Location: PDX | It's a holly jolly Christmas. It's the best time of the year ....
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I've already put the Mrs. on alert that she needn't bother with Christmas shopping for me this year because Santa has set up a shop in Hartford and I'm on his list. Whether I've been naughty or nice this past year hasn't come up yet. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | In all the hoopla about the fabulous guitars that have already or are soon to become available in the near future, perhaps some of you have completely forgotten about this beauty? I haven't. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15680
Location: SoCal | Word has it that the first one is going out to it's new owner (not me), as I type.... |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | I agree with the professor, somewhat lost in the shuffle of the ofc guitar. But I am convinced that this koa 12 fretter is gonna be a kick ass guitar.
Dave |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 972
Location: PDX | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Word has it that the first one is going out to it's new owner (not me), as I type.... Is the The Word or just word? Waiting for this one has been an exercise in patience. Not that it's a bad thing mind you.
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | I'm sure the wait will be well worth it. Personally I like the idea of spreading out the distance between the deposit and the final payment. Sort of softens the blow.
Assuming that Moody's info about the first koa being in transit is accurate, I imagine we should have some kind of review on 4/25.
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