WTB a Custom Legend carved TRC.
Jérôme
Posted 2006-10-06 2:59 PM (#324728)
Subject: WTB a Custom Legend carved TRC.



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Hello,

I've got a new Adamas since fews days and I'd like to add my "personal touch" to this incredible beauty.
She has a standard TRC and I'm sure that a Custom Legend carved TRC will be great.
I sincerely hope that one of you could help. ;)

I will post some pics in the next days.

Thank you very much for your help.

J :)

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povation
Posted 2006-10-06 11:20 PM (#324729 - in reply to #324728)
Subject: Re: WTB a Custom Legend carved TRC.


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Hi Jerome,
Just only a part of this guitar. Very very beautiful! So I would like to suggest you No need
Custom Legend Truss Rod Cover. You should sign your name Jerome with the Laser cut off. Signature Model....
povation
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MWoody
Posted 2006-10-06 11:58 PM (#324730 - in reply to #324728)
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Jerome had asked me earlier this week if I had one, and I didn't.

I in turn asked him if he could chronicle some of the different carved Truss Rod Covers seen over the years, on his site.

I would like to start some attempts to Dremel some TRCs but I don't have a good reference. Could y'all take some pictures of your TRCs and share them so we could have a small history?

Classic in Walnut? Veneer over Ebony with relief? What would look cool?

CWK2 - Did these change with eras, Artists or contracts over the years?

Thanks to all
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-10-07 2:37 AM (#324731 - in reply to #324728)
Subject: Re: WTB a Custom Legend carved TRC.



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Thanks Mike!!!

The TRC section is now open since few minutes: OVATION TRC

Of course, customs models are welcome... ;)

J :)

PS: Thanks to Povation & Tom for these pics.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-10-07 10:45 AM (#324732 - in reply to #324728)
Subject: Re: WTB a Custom Legend carved TRC.
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I carve and sculpt, at times for a living. Let me know if you want something custom. I think I still have a few shots of some Deacon Bridge and TC covers I made some time back for myself. Interesting one is the one with the word DEACON fit into the space of a TRC Looks real 60's Hippie stuff. very retro. Randy
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-10-08 3:42 AM (#324733 - in reply to #324728)
Subject: Re: WTB a Custom Legend carved TRC.



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Randy,

All the pics of your custom TRC are welcome.
Thank you all for your help, the section is growing every day... ;)

J :)
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-10-08 11:00 AM (#324734 - in reply to #324728)
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The sun was there this afternoon in Paris so I've made some pics:
ADAMAS II SLOTHEAD

This guitar is so nice...

J :)
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MWoody
Posted 2006-10-08 12:32 PM (#324735 - in reply to #324728)
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Good work on the TRCs!

I would like to set up a jig and Dremel the outlines, then contour the sides. We'll see what comes of it.

Thanks J

MWoody
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-10-08 12:52 PM (#324736 - in reply to #324728)
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Originally posted by paulmac:
The sun was there this afternoon in Paris so I've made some pics:
ADAMAS II SLOTHEAD

Very nice. Of course I am a little bit biased. I need to visit this guitar!

Dave
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-10-08 12:57 PM (#324737 - in reply to #324728)
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She's waiting for you.
And Paris is very nice in the fall... ;)

J :)
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Arnaud
Posted 2006-10-08 2:43 PM (#324738 - in reply to #324728)
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Foggy mornings and sunny afternoons with brown yellow gold leaf falling from trees....Come on again Dave !!
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-10-08 2:57 PM (#324739 - in reply to #324728)
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Woody - I ordered that jig as well...I'm looking forward to experimenting with it.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-10-08 3:00 PM (#324740 - in reply to #324728)
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Woody - I meant to say that I ordered the Dremel routing add-on.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-10-08 4:28 PM (#324741 - in reply to #324728)
Subject: Re: WTB a Custom Legend carved TRC.



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MIRTHS!

Musical Instrument Repair Tool Hoarding Syndrome!


Have we figured out why Stew Mac sells their kits so cheaply?
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-10-08 4:33 PM (#324742 - in reply to #324728)
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Because the screws and wire are so damn expensive! The old pull-thru effect.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-10-08 6:07 PM (#324743 - in reply to #324728)
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I fee hand everything?? Is there a Jig???? I have foredom tools and carve small enough to make miniature smoking pipes for the faces on the Smoking Pipes I carve. I'd love to have a Jig that made these TRC's easier to make.

Randy
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MWoody
Posted 2006-10-08 6:33 PM (#324744 - in reply to #324728)
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What I meant was a jig to hold the TRC in place while I pass the Dremel over the main shape. Then you would make the contour cuts.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-10-08 6:50 PM (#324745 - in reply to #324728)
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Ahhh Yes keeping these parts still is tough.... I thought there was a micro duplication jig or something out now. Now that would be something!
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-10-08 7:26 PM (#324746 - in reply to #324728)
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That would be cool! I did see a so-called 3D duplication jig thats supposed to be able to reproduce guitars and similar items. I'm a little skeptical... :eek:
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-10-12 9:04 PM (#324747 - in reply to #324728)
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Jerome try and email me again will ya?? there is something screwy with our emails I can't seem to send and your goes into the deleted box when it comes in?? Carving the Adamas Symbol and initials in Walnut is not a problem, in fact, will look quite nice. I too do not like the look of plastic on many guitars but especially ones like your high end O

Randy
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-10-14 12:43 AM (#324748 - in reply to #324728)
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OK just thought i'd throw out a line here I am commited to carving one custom designed walnut truss rod cover for one of our members from across the pond. If anyone has been thinking of having one of these made for their guitar please take the plunge and do it now. I am still in the midst of a Shop rebuild and regular practices now, but I will be setting up the foredom and will clear space on the bench to work for a short while. If anyone has a request for a design of mine or one of your own...on a truss rod cover or a replacement bridge or??? anything really??? now would be a good time for me. Thanks


Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-14 12:55 AM (#324749 - in reply to #324728)
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id like to have a carved trc for my folklore with the model#1114 carved in it, but thats probly too much to ask for..jason
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-10-14 10:33 AM (#324750 - in reply to #324728)
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Randy - I have something in mind... I'll send you an email. Do you have pics of your designs?

Thanks,

Mike
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-10-14 12:05 PM (#324751 - in reply to #324728)
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YA know I do not have many shots of anything I have done. VERY foolish....The only thing I can show you right now are a few shots of some work I did for fun on the deacon I have. They are in my photo section. As for your designs....feel free to draw anything at any scale to give me a good idea of what your after and I'll design something and email it for approval. Whatever you think can fit in that space or if you want we can go untraditional and make a larger cover that uses the same screw holes???? but unless it is done well this can look funny. But it can be done. Have fun, let me know what you want. Randy
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-10-26 9:55 PM (#324752 - in reply to #324728)
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Jerome; I have a couple of thick blanks of Walnut I started tonight. I am headed to Terrytown/Sleepy Hollow with the Kids for the weekend events there. I will have something for you by next weekend. working on one for myself as well.
Randy
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-10-27 12:52 AM (#324753 - in reply to #324728)
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That's great!!

Thanks

J :)
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-07 12:55 PM (#324754 - in reply to #324728)
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Jerome photo's of your (almost finished) walnut cover, have been emailed to you I will try and load some low res shots to my members section. today as well.
Anyone else interested in a customized truss rod cover or other?? Please take a look at what I have so far and let me know. These are very time consuming and it is impossible to charge for the time it takes. So it's a good deal for something like this. One of a kind covers...Hey nice x-mas present for the guy who has every guitar there is, or perhaps just that one they really like. Thanks again Jerome for getting me back in the studio and clearing my bench!

Randy
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-07 1:55 PM (#324755 - in reply to #324728)
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Loaded a finished photo as well it is in the deacon bridge category.
Interesting project Jerome. What's next?

Randy
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-11-07 2:01 PM (#324756 - in reply to #324728)
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Randy - wow! The bridges are fantastic!

You have mail.

Mike
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Stuart Miller
Posted 2006-11-07 3:03 PM (#324757 - in reply to #324728)
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Randy

That TRC for Jerome is phenomenal....congrats!!!
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-11-07 4:47 PM (#324758 - in reply to #324728)
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Thanks Randy,
You've done an outstanding job!! ;)

The only thing I can tell you is that this TRC is the exact replica of my project.
The design is surely a little bit "megalomaniac" but it's my choice.
I'm sure my custom TRC will be nice on the headstock of my Adamas II that's why I'm so anxious to get it.

J :)
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-11-08 1:13 AM (#324759 - in reply to #324728)
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A picture of the project vs the final result.
Really amazing.
Randy, you're an Artist!! ;)

J :)

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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-08 1:43 AM (#324760 - in reply to #324728)
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hmmm..no pic jerome???? jason
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-11-08 1:46 AM (#324761 - in reply to #324728)
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Does it works now??

J :)
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-08 1:49 AM (#324762 - in reply to #324728)
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beautiful jerome..truly a work of art..nice work randy..thanks for posting jerome..might like to add something custom to my balladeer project...jason
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-08 9:00 AM (#324763 - in reply to #324728)
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Wow nice! Thanks guy's these little symbols are tough to fit on a cover. Fun challenge though. I am going to work one up for myself. Give me what designs you have I will do my best.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-08 9:02 AM (#324764 - in reply to #324728)
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i dont have a drawn design but id like to have something like the vine like carvings on the cl trc or the early adamas bridge...jason
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cliff
Posted 2006-11-08 9:44 AM (#324765 - in reply to #324728)
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A quick question:

The relief on that fleur-di-lis isn't so high that it touches the strings, is it??

Just curious . . .
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povation
Posted 2006-11-08 2:21 PM (#324766 - in reply to #324728)
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THE SPECIAL THING FOR THE SPECIAL MAN!
Great job. Congrats,JG
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-08 7:29 PM (#324767 - in reply to #324728)
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Cliff yes it is! Very observant. I told Jerome last night I will have to adjust this slightly but luckily it is very close, so the wings on each side of the symbol will only need to come down just a little. They are higher than I wanted anyway.

OK done. This cover has a ton of space on my custom legend headstock. but the slotheads are tight. I think Jerome wants this for a slothead adamas so I got it to fit on my classical. Man I did not realize the clasicals have a steep enough angle on them that there is almost no space to work with under the strings.
Jerome; This fits great and you lost no detail on the carving, but you have to be sure your strings are tightened so they wind outward from the center hole toward the outside of the tuning pegs. If they lay toward the inside they actually touch the carving. I have another photo headed to the gallery to exchange with the others.
Anyone else who may have a request please email me at home, I will do these for a few more weeks then be taking a break from them. I can draw up a quick sketch for your approval if your not quite sure what it should look like. Thanks for the comments guy's it's all just a learning curve.

Randy
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-11-17 1:18 PM (#324768 - in reply to #324728)
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The TRC is arrived today and is already on my A2 Slothead.
Unfortunately, the picture give not justice to the outstanding job done by Randy!!
It's a unique guitar with a unique TRC.

Thank you very much. ;)

J :)


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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-11-17 1:39 PM (#324769 - in reply to #324728)
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Randy - awesome! Can't wait to see what else you're working on! ;)

Mike
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-11-17 2:10 PM (#324770 - in reply to #324728)
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Nicely done, Randy.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-17 2:35 PM (#324771 - in reply to #324728)
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Great! very pleased this was what you were after. One persons idea of what something should look like and anothers can often differ greatly!
I actually have two nice sets of Tailpiece/truss covers for Deacon's in Walnut, That members want. One I am designing with a Sun Face and shooting stars. I have another to custom design as well. Not sure where this one is going yet?? I was told to do what I like???? Only one other truss rod cover?? This I found very strange, I must have had ten emails about doing one but only one commitment. No matter, just odd. I am also drawing up a few that I think would look great for fun.
I am quite sure it is difficult to imagine the time factor for these. A truss cover that is elaborite can take 8- 10 hours easily....now you do the math on a craftsman who makes $25 per hour..... I do not make the money a custom carver should make for things like this. They just are not worth the price one would have to charge for this time. So I end up keeping my time rate somewhere near minimum wage. This way most everyone can afford to have more interesting designs done.
All I can tell anyone who is thinking of doing this is; THere is nothing that can customize a guitar to make it your one-of-a-kind than a carving like this. And you can always remove them if you ever wanted to sell it. Inlaying your name makes the guitar worthless to a family member who may wish to generate some cash for an instrument long after it's original owner is gone.

Anyway
Thanks for the compliments and let me know if I can do something for you. I am busy right now again but will be back at these soon enough.
Randy
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