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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 795
Location: Texas | The collapse of the CD is here, worst time in 20 years.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/med...
Due to this lack of sales, I have boxes of CDs that I am going to have to move somehow.
So, my CD "Con La Lluvia" (which I used my Ovations in many tunes) is available to OFCers for $5 including media shipping in the US.
(paypal slara59@yahoo.com)
I also have many other of my releases available.
Contact me if interested.
fusionacustica@gmail.com |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ouch. |
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 Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4833
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Juxtapose against this the rise of independent sales.
Friend of mine is a music teacher and has written several books, recorded several CDs in support of instructional materials she has written for her programs. She sells to teachers all over the world.
One of her CDs has sold more than a 50,000 copies. She tried to register with the Canadian recording industry to get her gold record. They don't recognize her independent sales figures. |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Before we get a chance to get used to the new world, it's new all over again. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | but not necessarily "new and improved".
pm sent, serge. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | If you don't own Con La Lluvia. Get it now! It's a great CD. For $5 it's a steal! |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761
Location: Boise, Idaho | I'll order several when I get home Sunday and figure out how to use Paypal. Navidad is a Christmas season regular at our house. |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 795
Location: Texas | thanks guys,
paypal is fine but I prefer a check of course.
email me for my address. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761
Location: Boise, Idaho | "The check's in the mail" ... soon. |
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 Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | Paypal is way easier for me Serge ... so how about I just include a little extra to cover those fees?
There is a very interesting industry letter that is published by Bob Lefsetz. We got dialed into this when my son's song got released. You can subscribe at www.lefsetz.com. But the one I got a day or so ago is somewhat applicable to the situation that CA is finding himself in --- Interesting Reading. |
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 Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4081
Location: Utah | Serge, do you have a myspace? |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 795
Location: Texas | bobbo, that is fine, thanks.
and yes:
www.myspace.com/sergiolaraband |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Serge, maybe it's time to stop making CD's. The industry is changing, we all need to change with it or die. Pretty soon the CD will be as outdated as the Compact Cassette. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15680
Location: SoCal | It took me a long time to realize that ipods and downloaded music is the current big step and replacement for cd's.... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761
Location: Boise, Idaho | You mean cassettes are out?! I just got a new stylus for my turntable and was hoping to hang on to that technology for a few more years. No ipods or downloaded music yet. |
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 Joined: June 2007 Posts: 3084
Location: Brisbane Australia | Serge how much shipped to Oz?
AJ |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | "I just got a new stylus for my turntable..."
Mark, maybe he has a copy of his 1984 LP still available...he actually sings on this one :cool: |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Gee, nice Adamas II on your myspace ;) :p ;) |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389
Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Serge ... I have your CD already!
At that price, you might want to try moving them on half.com. I bet you'd sell them all.
The CD is on the way out, just like the lp. My neice one day asked me, after seeing a vendor in brooklyn, uncle, why are those cd cases so big? And I told her, those are not cds, those are record albums, and she said, I've seen DJ's use them. She owns no cd's, it's all in her computer and in her mp3 player. I believe she uses one from creative technologies. I'll miss holding the the box and reading the liner notes ...
Though I heard the decline in sales has slowed. I guess the independants and specialists are taking up the slack. |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 367
Location: Eaton, Indiana | I have some too. I will trade you one for one of yours. :>
Scott |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | i read the other day that companies are starting to produce LPs again. you'll be glad you got that new stylus, mark. maybe... |
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 Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I got boxes of cassettes I don't listen to... Too much hassle.
The CD's I got, I play once into my Media Player, then I might burn some songs on disc to take to work.
(Then I don't care if I get paint all over them... Not piracy, really!)
But I have thought about buying a turntable, cuz you can get some classic stuff at Thrift Stores. |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 795
Location: Texas | Temp, you are absolutely right, there will be no more CDs and I will not manufacture more.
My problem now is that I have 10 releases, so I have many boxes of each one, in addition to various compilations that I am also included.
An yes Tony, I have LPs available too. :) "Sergiology" released in 1984 and "The New One" released in 1981.
So I have boxes of my LPs, cassettes, and CDs. They use to sell on gigs and stores, but now it is only downloads, and yes I am already on all the popular downloads sites, which means nothing, barely any sales.
So the idea is to move this product I already have.
The record stores will consign, that is the way it works, all the CDs you see in stores are there on consignment and labels have to wait to get paid until they sell, but I am not playing that game anymore, they will just gather dust plus it is a hassle getting paid.
Many of my friends in the biz are disolving bands and waiting to see what is going to happen, I visited with a friend a few weeks ago, he is the leader of a well known swing band from Austin, TX, we met at our lawyer's office and we were chatting and another friend asked him how was business, and he said, ...well, we made $1 million Dls. last year.........................it cost me $2 million"..................true story.
I tell you guys, the music biz is ruined, music as a hobby is great, and these days the only way to barely make ends meet it is to play constantly on the road and I am not doing that any more. There is no money and I have a family.
Would you go out on the road with a bunch of guys and leave your wife home? Let me know and I will stay with your wife. :)
Just kidding around of course.
Anyway, thanks for your response. |
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 Joined: April 2004 Posts: 795
Location: Texas | :cool: |
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 486
Location: North Carolina | Originally posted by Country Artist:
I tell you guys, the music biz is ruined, music as a hobby is great And there it is, the stark reality. One of the few intelligent choices I made in my life was NOT to turn pro. I see guys my age all the time who sneer at "hobby bands". They're pushing 60, drive (and sometimes live in) wrecks, have no savings or retirement, marriages long gone, no medical or dental, no comfort in the future - but they look down on me. What really pisses them off is I'm as good as they are.
The only working pros I know with decent off-stage lives are people who are also involved in music education or retail, and one guy who is a luthier. The guys who are still chasing the dream, the guys with air-brushed photos on their web sites, the guys waiting for THAT call they expect to come any day - well, it just makes me sad.
I wish I could do more for them than be the object of their derision. But if that helps . . . |
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 Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120
Location: Chicago | You put it well, First Al. Me and the boys occasionally feel a cold blast from the "professional world", but, then again, our needs are modest: I would define success as follows:
1) a few gigs a month
2) for the "right" crowd
3) keep it new: inspiration, material
4) ALWAYS have fun
If anyone wants a contest, I'll bring my axe. |
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